Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 03:01:50 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #567 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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RE: Wrist and forearm exercises (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 2. Re: RE: TSD Trim (Ray Terry) 3. PMA and Dr. Benson (Randall Sexton) 4. Re: TSD trim (Dana Vaillancourt) 5. Taeguk forms (Mario Karvouniaris) 6. Re: Taeguk forms (Meixner1@aol.com) 7. Chop (Rudy Timmerman) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:04:50 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Wrist and forearm exercises Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net There are a lot of very inexpensive ways to develop your wrists and forearms. Masons, carpenters and mechanics almost always have very strong forearms and wrists because they are continually using them. The lesson is, spend time gripping tightly for extended periods and moving through range of motion with resistance. Start with knuckle pushups but make sure you are getting your chest below your wrists. Any staff, mid or short stick work will help, as well as sword, particularly single hand sword and staff techniques. I normally do a grip exercise where I extend my arms straight forward from the shoulder, palms up and do 100 rapid but hard squeezes with my hands. I repeat this 3 more times with hands position rotated 90 degrees each time, palms facing, palms down and palms to outside. Sometimes I will repeat this with arms extended straight out to the sides as well. Extended period of grip exercises are important for developing the forearms, as any wrestler or grappler will tell you. You can grip anything you can fit in your hand, but I prefer a firm rubber ball that my fingers will hook around. Do sets of squeezes to fatique failure several times a day. But do it with palms facing in different directions. during each exercise set. There is also a tool, you can make at home that is good for exercising wrists and forearms. Take a stick a little over a foot long and at least an inch in diameter. Drill a hole through the diameter at the center of the lenght of the stick. Put some cord through and tie in a knot that wont slip through the hole. The end of the cord should be just off the ground when you hold the stick out in front of you. You can work on everything from shoulders down if you hold your arms strainght out, or just your forearms by adjusting the length so you can keep your elbows down. Tie a weight on the end of the cord or rope and wind the weight up and back down by turning the stick. Alternate grips with palms up and palms down, but always keep both palms same direction. If you have a weight set, put a small stick on the end of the cord and it can be run through the center hole in weights for duel use, you have known weights so you can more easily track your progress, and the tool is easily adjustable for use by others. Have fun. Danny Dunn --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: TSD Trim To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:12:04 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Does anyone know if Tang Soo Do players (MKD and others) have ever > worn any other kind of top besides the full trimmed top? > > or > > When did this tradition start and/or why? It appears that trimmed doboks began to be worn by MDK players in the mid-1950s. Prior to that the pictures show a variety of things being worn. As of about 1955 or 56 you see them in doboks w/trim. As I recall the idea came from old military uniforms, that you can see in the War Memorial (in Seoul). Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Randall Sexton" To: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:39:27 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] PMA and Dr. Benson Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Similarly, feelings and thoughts (beliefs and feelings) can impact health in any direction.> That's basically what I agree with. >There are robust, healthy people who come to our USA from war-torn, violence-ridden, poverty-stricken places who consider life in America a cakewalk. They consider Americans in general to be wusses> Again their belief system comes into play. We are a bunch of wussies! >The mechanics of chemistry and biological reality will supersede any soft-think stressed out nonsense that some New-Agey might try to tell you is the ultimate truth> I try to stay away from the New Age types, but it's difficult here in Austin, TX! But I think I'm not as "trapped" maybe as you are in the "it's gotta be empirically proven or it's not real" way of thinking. >OK ... so he goes to Korea and comes back with a honking cold> I used to get the flu every year and be knocked down for a week, moaning and waiting for time to pass. After Qi Gong, nothing, not even a cold for I guess 10 years now. I work in hospital exposed to all kinds of crap plus wife brings home germs from her school kids. Does this mean Koreans are wussies!! Just kidding! > All of this to say that we do not help each other by encouraging this non-thinking belief in the effects of simply believing. Call it my humble opinion, but it is an educated opinion. I've studied the mind/body science of both East and West and have been applying my blend for more than 30 years now. I would be remisss as an "instructor" to suggest to someone that believing and thinking are the most critical elements in determining their health outcomes. It's just not true. There are many people who meet unnecessary troubles because of this type of thinking.> I agree that combination of Western and Eastern techniques best combo. Elaborate on "non-thinking beliefs in effects of simply believing." I'm talking about "active thinking." Doesn't "thinking" come before "feelings?" How are "beliefs" and "thinking" related? "I think, therefore I am." >An extreme example that comes to mind is a woman who believed that her energy-healer friends could help her with ovarian cancer. After many transfusions because she refused a straightforward surgery, she died. All of the "belief" talkers went on their merry ways ... they'd collected their fees and accomplished squat> Doesn't this also apply to Western medicine which in many diseases has accomplished squat! >For example, examination of populations of cancer survivors has identified one factor that is apparently key to longevity after diagnosis and treatment of cancer: Those who did things which promoted good feelings about self lived longest> I liked the study that showed women with cancer who had more orgasms lived longer! People who laughed more lasted longer..or were cured/healed. >In the arena of research on mind/body issues in health, it is this type of targeted, focussed examination of facts that serves us best, not some loose, undisciplined assertions that it's all in our heads. It ain't.> And now scientist are finally learning that most of it is...in the mind and/or brain..what ever is in there! >Now, for a good parallel, examine athletic performance. What is the "psychology" of winning? There are parallels btwn the dynamics of promoting "health success" and athletic success. It should be obvious that belief and thinking are -not- the major determinant of athletic achievment, yes? OTOH, there are specific, reliable mental/emotional /belief-related dynamics that we can manipulate in specific ways that will make a marked difference in our athletic outcomes ... but they are all related to mechanical/physical/behavioral "stuff."> What about the studies that showed if you imagined an event...shooting hoops for example, that you did as well as the people who actually shot hoops? The brain couldn't tell the difference between imagining the event and actually doing the event. That's one reason I do lot's of mental training in MA. I also believe that if you "give up" and not focus so much on winning, that you do better. Also apply the same to, for ex. a cancer patient...should you be a warrior and visualize those cancer cells being "eaten" up by your while cells or should you take an "adventurous" approach and visual your body being healthy and as you wish it to be? BTW, Benson's work (Behavioral Medicine :-) did not "legitimize" meditation> I think Benson made it legit for those who didn't believe in it..or thought it new age. Anyway lot's we don't know. I'm moving to Hawaii in the morning and I "think" and "feel" that I'm going to be happier...and warmer! Randall Sexton www.LaughingHara.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:29:59 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: TSD trim Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm sure martial arts practice in Korea in 1944-45 probably did not have trim as Gis were probably being utilized. It is also my understanding thatthe MDK first used black trim on dobaks, with blue trim coming out in the 1950s. The change was perhaps due to the TKD/TSD split, the philosophy of continued growth, and/or the late GM Hwang seeing a historical uniform. Dana _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:51:07 +1100 From: "Mario Karvouniaris" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Taeguk forms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Ray / all I have some short mpeg and AVI files of Taeguk forms1 - 17 downloaded from the Web. I can't remember exactly where I got them, If you like I could upload them to an FTP site for future reference. Regards Mario --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Meixner1@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:13:34 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Taeguk forms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 12/5/2002 12:47:07 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:06:42 -0500 > From: FirstPe315@aol.com > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] Taeguek Forms > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > In a message dated 12/3/2002 6:01:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, > the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > >Does anyone know where to find outlines of the steps to the Taeguk > >forms(WTF)? I want to practice before I go back for my next > >belt test. > > > >Meixner1 > >1st Dan > > Uhm, I may be confused. But aren't you supposed to know those ahead of > time before your next belt test? > > J > When you have been gone for two years you tend to forget quite a bit. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:12:57 -0500 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Chop Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charlie writes: > I figured my name, rank, style, and > school name, but that would probably be a large stamp. who knows...any > suggestions? Hello Charlie. I would think twice before putting rank on the chop unless you don't plan to earn a higher rank (and make the chop out-of date). Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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