Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:38:05 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #577 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Korean Question and Martial Arts in Austria (John Johnson) 2. (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Re: Korean language (Klaas Barends) 4. RE: Best Defence (Donnelly, Eamonn) 5. Michael J. Wollmershauser (Michael McCarty) 6. RIP Master Wollmershauser (Christopher Spiller) 7. Side Kicks, Kick vs Punch (Khalkee@netscape.net) 8. 10th Annual Red Scorpion Invitational (Ray Terry) 9. Sport TKD Calendar (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "John Johnson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Korean Question and Martial Arts in Austria Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:29:15 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The suffix 'in" comes from the Chinese word ryn (pronounced 'ren') meaning 'people.' So, by saying hapkidoin, one is saying 'Hapkido person' or, to apply an English suffix, 'hapkido-er' as in baseball player. If you are confused about why Koreans use Chinese terms, just remember that 80% of the Korean language is derived from Chinese, albeit Korean uses a different syntax and is not a tonal language. In fact, Koreans need to learn about 1800 Chinese characters to read their own language fluently. This is because there are so many homonyms in Korean they use Chinese characters to differentiate their meanings. The best way to see this is in Korea's two different number systems. The pure Korean system (hana, duel, set, net, etc.) is used for counting for telling time. The Sino-Korean (Il, ee, sam, sa) comes from the Chinese and is used for amounts of things (e.g. Il-jang = form one) and for money (beak Won = 100 Won; the Korean currency. I hope this sheds some light on things. John A. Johnson III, Taekwondo (independent) III, Korea Hapkido Federation _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:08:56 -0500 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dave writes: > That is, I suppose, the blessing/curse of learning an art while the > founder is still around - they keep changing things! Ji, Han Jae's > top students tell me that he does the same thing - every month, > things are a little different. ;-) IMHO, martial arts are ever evolving, and that may be one of the reasons why minor changes occur at times. Also, each opportunity to teach might involve a slightly different circumstance (bigger/smaller partner etc.). Hence the application of technique may need to be a bit different. Indeed, the observer may even SEE the same technique a bit different even though it is exactly the same. I always try to impress on my students to look for the "principles" of technique, that way you will not be so frsutrated when little details are not exactly the same as you saw it before. I also strongly believe that technique should never be taught or learned without understanding that it might need to change with different situations. On the street, you just don't have time to do anything but use solid principles that have been tried every which way and then some. In fact, I usually could not even remember what I did in actual combat. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:27:05 +0100 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean language Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I have a quick question about the Korean language that > I have been meaning to ask about for quite a while. I > have noticed people referring to Hapkido practitioners > as Hapkidoin. Does -in as a suffix mean "practioner > of?" Is this similar to the Japanese -ka? Also, can > a practitioner of other Korean arts be called, for > instance a Taekwondoin or a Tangsoodoin? > hapkido saeng -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Donnelly, Eamonn" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:27:10 -0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Best Defence Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Miguel stated Snip "I assume that blocking hard is OK. Against rear round kick (open stance), or front round kick (closed stance); block the kicking leg hard with double forearm block, immediately spin kick to torso." I would just like to add a cautionary note to Miguel's advice. As arms are more delicate than legs, blocking kicks effectively with you arms requires lots of experience and very good technique if you are to avoid injury to yourself. Be aware of your own limitations especially if you are to attempt this in a sparring session towards the end of a hard class when you are possibly tired and your sparring partner is young, fit and fvery quick ;-). As a general rule I would advocate sidestepping the attack and then countering if possible, however whatever method you choose take care and practice the technique frequently. Yours respectively Eamonn 1st Dan Tang soo do Confidentiality Note: The information in this electronic mail ("e-mail") message may be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by privilege, work product immunity or other applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient the retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you receive this electronic mail ("e-mail") in error please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0) 24 7686 2000 or by e-mail at postmaster@cel-international.com. Thank you. Registered in England No. 3877626 Registered Office 256 Foleshill Road Coventry CV6 5AB --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:08:56 -0800 (PST) From: Michael McCarty To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Michael J. Wollmershauser Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am very sad to hear about Master Mike. My heart and prayers go out to his wife and children during this Holiday Season. I have know of Master Mike going back to the early 80's when Master Whalen would take us to Mike's tournaments at the Springfield Civic Center in Springfield, Ma. They were always a blast and very competative. I remember meeting Billy Blanks at Mike's tournament when he fought Steve "Nasty" Anderson. Master Mike was always gracious and invited us to his dojang, tournments and seminars. He also returned the favor when he attended a number of seminars that Master Whalen hosted in the 80's. I also had the pleasure of knowing Mike as a teacher at Springfield College. He taught a self defense program at the college that was manditoory for all freshmen. Everyone on campus knew of this nice guy who taught the class and really knew his stuff. Most of the football players I knew that took the class could attest to that. Mike McCarty, Connecticut --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 07:14:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Spiller To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] RIP Master Wollmershauser Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I just took the time to read the on-line obituary for Master Wollmershauser. He seemed to be a real renaisannce (sp.?) man. Besides his accomplishments as a martial artist it said he was a skillful chess player, an accomplished painter, and obviously had more "pragmatic" skills from his job as an aircraft electrician. Reading this information made me think of the saying that "Once you have mastered one thing you have mastered them all." In my copy of the Book of Five Rings it has several photos of paintings, carvings, and sword-guards that Musashi made himself. It just seems to me that Master Wollmershauser was indeed a well-rounded individual, which is the goal of MA training (and seems to be accomplished too little, IMHO). My condolences to his family, friends, and students. Taekwon, Chris __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:25:32 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Side Kicks, Kick vs Punch Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net One possible problem with using the side kick delivered from the foot-beside-knee "chamber" is that it can be "read" and jammed by a stop-kick move. Certainly some will smoothe it out and make the move less vulnerable to being intercepted, but sometimes people over-emphasize the "chamber" and it becomes a little stop along the way to delivering the kick. This may be moreso true of the rear-leg sidekick. I only use the lead leg side kick per a Shaolin tech, but every method has its role. Re: Kick vs Punch, my humble suggestion is to work on mobility and timing. In my second venture back into KMAs I had to spar with black belts who complained "That's crazy, he just comes right in." That meant 'comes right in after they kicked'. Crazy like a fox is the saying ;-) You must shadow and time your opponent and at the right time, flank or enter to strike, throw, etc. Block kicks? Why? Get the heck out of the way (mobility/timing). IMHO, with good mobitlity and timing the only time that we should touch the incoming kick is if we're going to destroy it and/or throw from it. OTOH, if mobility/timing is not up to par and we get caught "dead in the water" that's another story ... some sort of block/parry/etc. is then necessary. Evade, control, attack the attack. One form of control is to enter as the kicker is recovering. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] 10th Annual Red Scorpion Invitational Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net fyi... 10th Annual Red Scorpion Invitational, Taekwondo Feb 1, 2003 Cypress College Cypress, California For more info contact: Red Scorpion Martial Arts and Fitness Center 5260 Lampson Ave., Garden Grove, California 92845 714-893-0989 FAX 714-893-0754 http://www.redscorpion.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Sport TKD Calendar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The_Dojang's calendar of Sport Taekwondo Events Dec 12, 2002 http://MartialArtsResource.com http://the-dojang.net Dates and locations subject to change. 2003 11th Pan Arab Games TBD Algeria Australian Olympic Youth Festival Jan 8-12 Sydney, Australia NC AAU Winter Tourny Jan 18 Fayetteville, N. Carolina AAU Junior Olympic Quals Jan 18 Waldorf, Maryland Master Choi Cup Down Under Jan 19 Melbourne, Australia AAU Spar Wars Jan 25 Marietta, Georgia 1st Incas Open Jan 31-Feb 2 Lima, Peru Indiana Open Jan Indianapolis, Indiana AAU Arizona Quals Feb 1 Yuma, Arizona Red Scorpion Invitational Feb 1 Cypress, California ITF French Open Feb 1-2 Thonon-les-Bains, France US Open Feb 19-23 Las Vegas, Nevada Int Flor Pokal Open Feb 22-23 Elmshorn, Germany European Juniors Feb 28-Mar 2 Athens, Greece ITF Italian Open March 1-2 Riccione, Italy ITF Nova Scotia Open March 22 Halifax, Nova Scotia Indy Cup March 15 Indianapolis, Indiana 1st Paris Open March 15-16 Paris, France ITF Intl FITE Open March 22 Madrid, Spain 1st Technical Paris Open March 22-23 Paris, France Dutch Open March 29-30 Eindhoven, Netherlands AAU Georgia Qualifier March 29 Smryna, Georgia 2nd Pan Am Junior March Rio de Janeiro, Brazil South Carolina State Champs March Rock Hill, S. Carolina Canadian TKD Champs April 11-13 Mont-Tremblant, Quebec AAU New England Quals April 12 Orleans, Vermont German Open April 26-27 Bonn, Germany 4th TKD Masters Cup April 26-27 Geleen, Netherlands ITF North American Champs April Ottawa, Canada 29th US National TKD Champs May 21-25 New Orleans, Louisana Danish Int Poomsae Champs May 24 Kolding, Denmark ITF PROTAE Puerto Rico Open May 25 Arecibo & Lares, Puerto Rico 1st Moja Kwan Invitational June 7 Roswell, Georgia ITF North American Champs June 7 Ottawa, Canada ITF World Champs June 9-15 Pyongyang, North Korea 13th World ITF Seniors June 12-15 Warsaw, Poland ITF Chi Cup Open June 14 Punto Fijo, Venezuela ITF NAG German Open June 21-22 Wetzlar, Germany Canadian Juniors June 27-20 Winnipeg, Manitoba 12th South Pacific Games June 28-July 12 Suva, Fiji USTU Junior Nationals June 30-July 6 Orlando, Florida European Technical Champs June France AAU Nationals July 2-5 Knoxville, Tennessee AAU Junior Olympics July 27-Aug 1 Detroit, Michigan 14th Pan American Games Aug 1-15 Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep USTU National Team Trials Aug 24-25 Colorado Springs, Colorado 3rd World Military Games Aug-Sept Madrid, Spain 9th Women's World TKD Champs Sept 24-28 Garmisch, Germany 16th World TKD Champs Sept 24-28 Garmisch, Germany 22nd World University Games Sept 24-28 Taegu, Korea ITF World Seniors Sept 25-28 Las Vegas, Nevada Swedish Open Oct 4-5 Malmo, Sweden 2nd PATU Juniors Oct 15-18 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ITF Open Champs Oct 25-26 Auckland, New Zealand World Quals for Athens Dec 2-5 Paris, France 22nd SouthEast Asian Games Dec HoChiMinh City, Vietnam Olympic Games TKD Test Event Dec-Feb Athens, Greece 8th African Champs or early 2004 Accra, Ghana 2004 European Champs for Teams Feb Grenoble, France Pan American Quals Feb Miami, Florida Olympic Test Event March Athens, Greece 13th Women's European Senior TKD May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 15th European Senior TKD Champs May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 8th World University Champs June 1-3 Patra, Greece 2004 Olympic Games Aug 26-29 Athens, Greece Canadian Juniors TBD Dartmouth, Nova Sciotia 2005 4th East Asian Games TBD Macao, China ITF Senior World Champs TBD Uzbekistan 23rd Universiade July 16-26 Izmir, Turkey 2006 15th Asian Games Dec 11-14 Doha, Qatar Please submit updates and corrections. 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