Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:06:02 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #579 - 13 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Many Styles (TeachingInChina@aol.com) 2. NUGA (Tolulope Oludipe) 3. Sudlud Escrima (Charles Richards) 4. Future Grandmaster (Charles Richards) 5. Re: US ChungDoKwan (FRANK CLAY) 6. Confuzzled by TKD Times article (ABurrese@aol.com) 7. Re: Confuzzled by TKD Times article (Ray Terry) 8. Re: NUGA (Ray Terry) 9. Side Kicks (Charles Veuleman) 10. migrant labor in South Korea (Ray Terry) 11. Vacationing (Ray Terry) 12. RE: Sudlud (Stovall, Craig) 13. Re: RE: Sudlud (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: TeachingInChina@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:07:55 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Many Styles Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I would like to know if it is wise to practice more than one style? I am currently practicing TKD, and I would also like to practice a similar style. Would this cause concentration confusion? Is it better to stick with only one style until I master TKD? Thanks Landa 6th gup Green Belt TKD --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tolulope Oludipe To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] NUGA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi y'all. I'm currently @ the university of Ibadan (Oyo State), Nigeria for the Nigeria University Games. TKD should begin on Sunday the 15th & probably end by Thursday the 19th of Dec. I will be competing in the fyn wt. category. Wish me/ us (i.e. my school) luck! Timi D. 2nd Dan. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:33:55 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sudlud Escrima Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Sudlud Eskrima is based on, and is a combination of, Inayan Eskrima and Doce Pares as well as other martial arts experiences I've had over the last 35 years. "Sudlud" in Sudlud Eskrima and the Sudlud Eskrima Association (SEA) is taken from "The Sudlud", a mythical character well known to Inayans. Thats it... Just wanted to get the word out. It is my hope that this creation brings yet more smiles to my late instructor, Mike Inay. <> Sounds like a Moja of Escrima roots To think I hand the supreme international great grandmaster of Sudlud Eskrima at my humble little Moja Kwan Mu Do Camp :-) Best Wishes on putting your heart into the art YOU believe in! May you walk in beauty, Charles R. Moja Kwan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Future Grandmaster Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Friends, Today, 12/13/2002 is the third birthday of Niko S. Richards, Vice President of Moja Kwan. He will be receiving his first DoBohk and begin his private lessons in the Moja Kwan Mu Do system. Keep watching the digest to see if Moja Kwan uses the patri-lineal succession :-) Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "FRANK CLAY" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:32:30 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: US ChungDoKwan Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Miguel, It was my impression that the USCDKA does not mandate that you must follow their curriculum; however, they do recommend it. Schools that do follow it exactly are calle Blue Book schools, named after the Sell's Textbook, the Forces of Taekwondo. Incidentally, this book is well written. Momtong Kyorugi and Olgul Kyorugi shown is a bit simple, but it is based in sound principles. I too am ChungDoKwan, but I prefer the older style, that still taught in the US by people such as Son Duk Sung. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:37:22 -0500 From: ABurrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Confuzzled by TKD Times article Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I stopped by the magazine stand last night on the way to teach my class, and read the article that has been discussed here. I must say, after reading it, I was a bit, as Winnie-the Pooh would say, confuzzled. While I’m not a mathematician, I did have to do a little math in my 19 years of school (20 if you count kindergarten), and some things just did not add up. One of the most obvious was a statement that one individual was the only American to train in the “old style” Hapkido. Hmmm…. I do not want to call anyone “old,” but I do know a few “experienced” Hapkidoin that were training and receiving dan rank quite a few years before the individual in the article was born. I may be wrong, but don’t you think it might be possible that the training they were doing before this person was even born just might be some “old style” training? Not that these experienced people are old mind you, but they were training way back when…. I also found it interesting that a few years ago the individual never mentioned GM Ji other than noting him as a prominent Hapkidoin on his web site. (if he even had that back then, which he may not have) I remember he had a lot about himself and about his other instructor in Korea. He never mentioned Sin Moo HKD back then. And now after a brief meeting, he is the successor to GM Ji? Again, I’m no mathematician, but it just does not seem to add up. It makes me wonder if one can not get his picture on the cover of a magazine, maybe one could invite one of the most noted and famous instructors around to come and do a seminar at one’s school, and while hosting the seminar invite a reporter from the magazine to attend and arrange an interview and some photos for that same weekend, and thus get on the cover of said magazine. Of course, I may be completely wrong here, it was just a thought. There is more that has me perplexed as well, but I figure I have spent enough time pondering this, since it really does not effect me, and I should get back to more positive endeavors such as the article I started and want finished this week. And I also need to get back to the more simpler things, my legal malpractice work, where I only have to deal with cases within cases and simpler things to add up such as millions of dollars sometimes. Yours in Training Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Confuzzled by TKD Times article To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > One of the most obvious was a statement that one individual was the only > American to train in the old style Hapkido. Hmmm. I do not want to call > anyone old, but I do know a few experienced Hapkidoin that were training > and receiving dan rank quite a few years before the individual in the > article was born. I may be wrong, but don't you think it might be possible > that the training they were doing before this person was even born just > might be some old style training? Not that these experienced people are > old mind you, but they were training way back when. There you go being logical again. What did we tell you about that??? :) Perhaps this is how CG was able to reach the rank of 3rd Dan by the time he was only 8 years old... Ray "Writing from an undisclosed location in the Middle East" Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] NUGA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I will be competing in the fyn wt. category. Wish me/ us (i.e. my school) > luck! Kick butt! No wait, that isn't a legal target... :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:44:14 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Side Kicks Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> Chris, That sounds like the way I would think the most amount of power would come from. Like I said, I have seen side kicks done at least 3 different ways, Foot Pointing Foot To Knee Knee Crossing Center line Maybe I am just biased because my system does the foot to knee chamber, but for true stopping power and a gut busting side kick, it can't be beat. I have not had a chance to read Choi's encyclopedia, my info was just passing through works I have seen written by other ITF/USTF/ITA/USTA/possibly even WTF stylist oriented books during my occasional mind numbing hours flipping through the barns and noble martial art section. Ray, Is bruce still around? YITMA, Charlie V. ===== ------------------------------------- L. Charles Veuleman Natchitoches Karate Institute 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 318-356-7727 http://www.bluewavekarate.com ------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] migrant labor in South Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... Dear colleagues, I am very pleased to announced to you that a new web site devoted to the issue of foreign laborers in South Korea, was open today. The web site, http://www.foa2002.or.kr/ , contains large variety of materials on both the question of "unregistered" migrant workers in Korea, and various solidarity campaigns currently carried out by Korean activists (including Burma-related campaigns and Korean participation in the international anti-sweatshop movement). The site is maintained by the "Friends of Asia" - a new-born support group for the migrant workers, currently based in the city of Ilsan, to the north of Seoul proper. The group provides free training in Korean and various other subjects to the migrant workers, participates in various related campaigns, but also supports research work on the question of foreign labor in Korea - largely unknown in the outside world. It provides, among other things, opportunities for internships for the foreign researchers wishing to do fieldwork on the migrant labor issue in Korea and also help in the group's volunteer work. The site contains, among other features, a good e-library of recent Korean newspaper publications on the foreign labor issue (including some on the foreign sex laborers - Russian and Philippine). Together with Prof. Seol Dong-hun's excellent site, http://soc.chonbuk.ac.kr/soc/dhseol/main.html it may serve as one of the main e-sources for teaching on Korea's foreign labor problems. Best greetings, Vladimir (Pak Noja) Vladimir Tikhonov, Department of East European and Oriental Studies, Faculty of Arts, University of Oslo, P.b. 1030, Blindern, 0315, Oslo, Norway. Fax: 47-22854140; Tel: 47-22857118 Personal web page: http://www.geocities.com/volodyatikhonov/volodyatikhonov.html Electronic classroom: http://www.geocities.com/uioeastasia2002/main.html --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:19:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Vacationing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Ray, Is bruce still around? Bruce is vacationing from the land of constant email from the_dojang. :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:22:28 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Sudlud Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray wrote, <<<"Sudlud" in Sudlud Eskrima and the Sudlud Eskrima Association (SEA) is taken from "The Sudlud", a mythical character well known to Inayans.>>> For us non-Inayans...what's the basic story around Sudlud, and how did he or she become the namesake for your new system? Thanks. --__--__-- Message: 13 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Sudlud To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:00:03 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > For us non-Inayans...what's the basic story around Sudlud, and how did he or > she become the namesake for your new system? >From the FMA FAQ: "The Sudlud", a mythical human character, played a pivotal role in rank progression within the Inayan System of Eskrima. The Sudlud is a 'he'. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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