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Today's Topics:

   1. Good Luck (Charles Richards)
   2. Lineage (Rudy Timmerman)
   3. Re: Side Kicks (Christopher Spiller)
   4. RE: Re: Side Kicks (Wallace, John)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:29:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Charles Richards <mojakwan@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Good Luck
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<<snip>>
I will be competing in the fyn wt. category. Wish me/ us (i.e. my 
school) luck! 
<<end snip>>

Dear Timi,

Have fun and Kick Hogu :-)


Pil Sung!

Charles R.
Moja Kwan


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:27:45 -0500
From: "Rudy Timmerman" <kwanjang@nkmaa.ca>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Lineage
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Charles writes:
> Today, 12/13/2002 is the third birthday of Niko S. Richards
Please give the newest member of Moja Kwan my best.
Rudy

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:36:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Spiller <chrispillertkd@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Side Kicks
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I had said:
<<<In fact, the footsword of the
kicking foot is supposed to be drawn to the opposite
knee joint
Chris>>>

Charles Veuleman said:
<<That sounds like the way I would think the most
amount of power would
come from.  Like I said, I have seen side kicks done
at least 3
different ways, 

Foot Pointing
Foot To Knee
Knee Crossing Center line

Maybe I am just biased because my system does the foot
to knee chamber,
but for true stopping power and a gut busting side
kick, it can't be
beat.  I have not had a chance to read Choi's
encyclopedia, my info was
just passing through works I have seen written by
other
ITF/USTF/ITA/USTA/possibly even WTF stylist oriented
books during my
occasional mind numbing hours flipping through the
barns and noble
martial art section.>>

I think chambering with the foot at the opposite knee
may be more powerful, too. However, There are a few
distinctions that I'd make.

The side piercing kick in the ITF is chambered foot to
knee so the kicker gets the attacking tool to rotate
into the target, kind of like a punch does. In fact,
it's called "Yopcha Jirugi" which I believe means
something like "side kick punch." 

There's also the side thrusting kick. This kick is
chambered with the kicking leg parallel to the ground
and then thrusted straight out. However, the attacking
too is not the footsword, it's the ball of the foot.
The kick at full extension kind of resembles a
"sideways" front snap kick. 

A lot of side kicks seem to be a cross between these
two kicks - hitting with the footsword (or even the
heel) but chambering like a side thrust kick. I have
to admit, for breaking this method is easier than an
"othodox" side piercing kick! Thrusting straight
through a stack of boards seems easier to me than
having your foot twist into them and through. But
maybe it's just psychological on my part. 

Taekwon,

Chris

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Message: 4
From: "Wallace, John" <John_Wallace@affymetrix.com>
To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'"
  <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Side Kicks
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:42:43 -0800
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Sir, I'm curious about in which of the ITF forms the side thrusting kick
appears.  I've learned forms through to Kwang-Gae and to my knowledge they
would all be "piercing" side kicks, correct?  Is the thrusting kick
considered particularly advanced?

John Wallace
I Dan, TKD
Fremont, CA

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From: Christopher Spiller [mailto:chrispillertkd@yahoo.com] 

There's also the side thrusting kick. This kick is
chambered with the kicking leg parallel to the ground
and then thrusted straight out. However, the attacking
too is not the footsword, it's the ball of the foot.
The kick at full extension kind of resembles a
"sideways" front snap kick. 

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