Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #19 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Absolutely GREAT response (J.R. West) 2. Korean "Tai Chi" (SallyBaughn@aol.com) 3. Re: Korean "Tai Chi" (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "J.R. West" To: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:41:09 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Absolutely GREAT response Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net . A thug > spends most of his time being a thug...not working out esoteric jujutsu > counters to hapkido throws. > > Perhaps the older/wiser graybeards would disagree with me? > > -JW > I Dan, TKD > Fremont, CA An absolutely wonderful response!.....When I first began my HapKiDo training, I was VERY concerned with the "self defense / survival" aspect the art, to the point where my main focus was "doing unto others" and living to do it another day, BUT, after a few years, I realized that there was more art in what I was doing, than I was able to comprehend. Now, after close to 40 years of HapKiDo, I have seen for myself what the other benefits are, mainly, I sleep better , am infinitely more active and in better condition than just about anyone my age, and I find it easier staying out of situations where I might have to revert back to the other reason that I trained. As long as you are involved in Martial arts, you will NEVER be able to train for all the possibilities that may arise while having to deal with the average street moron, so the next best bet is to train for what will be best for you as an individual. No matter how long I stay involved in HapKiDo, I can never know all that can be known, nor can I ever do the most basic technique as well as I possibly could, if I just worked a little longer or a little harder, so I continue my journey down a single road. One of my closest friends from my days "in country" started training the same day I did, but stopped after it aggravated an old knee injury, and for self defense, he still carries a live frag grenade on the seat of his car, which he has, on at least one occasion, threatened to use to thwart a car-jacking in Atlanta. Is he crazy? Absolutely!, but people tend to leave him alone, and as he puts it, "I didn't have to spend all that time in class". I guess the moral of the story is, train for you, and avoid the thugs and where the thugs can be found, and in a worse case scenario, have superior fire power.....J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:58:26 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean "Tai Chi" Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I recently saw an episode of "GlobeTrekker" on PBS that pertained to South Korea. During the program, the narrator went to a small town about 150 km from JinBu and on the way to Busan. Somewhere near this town, he went to a mountain top where people yell and scream (don't ask - apparently it has to do with national pride and being out of the city). Anyway, somewhere near this mountain top he visited a Buddhist monastery and watched the monks doing a "Korean martial art" that looked like Tai Chi, but which was decidedly harder in style. There was some stretching, forms, and some kicking that was absolutely gorgeous. My question, what martial art was I watching, and why don't we have lots of it around? Thanks for any help. Sally --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Korean "Tai Chi" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:38:31 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > During the program, the narrator went to a small town about 150 km from JinBu > and on the way to Busan. Somewhere near this town, he went to a mountain top > where people yell and scream (don't ask - apparently it has to do with > national pride and being out of the city). Anyway, somewhere near this > mountain top he visited a Buddhist monastery and watched the monks doing a > "Korean martial art" that looked like Tai Chi, but which was decidedly harder > in style. There was some stretching, forms, and some kicking that was > absolutely gorgeous. I think I saw that same episode... I believe there are several styles of Tai Chi (Chen, Yang, Wu1, Wu2 and Sun). One of them, perhaps Chen??, is rather hard in nature. At least it is harder than what one typically sees demoed as Ta'i Chi Ch'uan. It may have been a Korean (t'ae geuk kweon) version of this harder style that was in GlobeTrekker...??? Any Taiji/TaiChi/tae geuk experts out there? 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