Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #25 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Recipe_for_a_Silk_Purse=3F?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 2. Re: True Warriors??? (Ray Terry) 3. To Mr. Stovall...Warrior mentality (Eric Walker) 4. Thanks for the Congrats (Michael Rowe) 5. Reply to Message 4 (A Future Computer Scientist) 6. Re: dinosaur training (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 7. Degrees (Ray Terry) 8. Re: Re: dinosaur training (Ray Terry) 9. RE: Taichi (S. H. WEE) 10. re: dinosaur training (Kevin Janisse) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:43:23 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Recipe_for_a_Silk_Purse=3F?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Fred: ".....How can a Tae Kwon Do guy learn and incorporate weapons into his own Dojang......" You could do that, but then, you wouldn't be teaching "Taekwondo", would you? Ever since people have come out of the closet and finally owned up to formulating Taekwondo out of Japanese Karate, somebody, somewhere, has been trying to put lipstick on this pig. What, exactly, would be your intent in this venture? Are you intersted in making the TKD you have a bit more militant and a little less civil or sport oriented? Do you imagine that flavoring your curriculum with Korean "stuff" will somehow make the art less Japanese and more authentically Korean? Put another way, what is it that is lacking so badly in TKD that people are constantly trying to stir something into it? A lot of schools want to add Hapkido techniques. Others stir in Judo material and call what they produce "hapkido".Still others add liberally from Okinawan, Indonesian and Philipine arts. (So am I to understand that not only is TKD so bland that it cannot stand on its own merits, but the Korean culture does not offer sufficient material to supplement it. One must actually go outside the culture to supplement its own arts. Well, THATS a bit daunting, I don't mind saying!) If you want to add weapons-- why not add Korean weaponry. THERE'S a thought! You have the whole MYTBTJ to draw from and there are even video tapes of various interpretations for you. Why not invest in sword training (and I don't mean with one of those Kendo-cum-Kumdo, IKF oriented schools)? Now, don't expect the biomechanics to mesh very well with your TKD/Karate stuff, but then, I wasn't the guy who came up with this silly notion to begin with. Of course, if you REALLY want to make a leap you can admit to yourself that you have been practicing Karate in Korean clothing which is to say Japanese traditions with a Korean spin. You COULD stop what you are doing and locate a greater Korean tradition (Taek Kyon? Ssireum?) to invest in and start all over again with that. It would take a lot of work, but it seems you are already doing overtime trying to make yout TKD into something it is apparently not. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] True Warriors??? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:53:13 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Being a warrior is not about how you think, or even about how you fight. > Being a warrior is about having something that's worth fighting for, and > then carrying through with action when that "something" is threatened. This is good, very good... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Eric Walker" To: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:47:50 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] To Mr. Stovall...Warrior mentality Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Very well put Mr. Stovall, I have to say that some people have a way with words, and some people not have...words...way...with...(I stole that from Steve Martin). I see alot of the "what's it take" or "what if" type scenarios from young guys when they first start, but it usually goes away when they settle into the routine. That is, the 1% that actually stay after the first month or two. I guess it's a macho thing. A lot of them just seem to get bored. Some of the most naturally talented people seem to go this way. It seems to almost always be men. I started training around the age of twelve, I'm thirty-four now, I haven't been training all of that time, but I suppose I wanted to learn to fight better when I started. I'll have to join the ranks of those of you that say "I'll never be an elite fighter." but I what I've gained through the martial arts, hapkido in specific, have changed me in ways, most of them subtle, that I hadn't expected. I don't know what I do without it now. enough rambling... Eric --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Michael Rowe" To: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:14:07 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Thanks for the Congrats Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Have just gotten my computer back from the shop, and I wanted to thank all those who offered Congrats to me on the State Patrol Exam. Michael Rowe P.S. MT this old dog will get you yet :) --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:38:24 -0500 (EST) From: A Future Computer Scientist To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Reply to Message 4 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Message: 4 >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From: Jose >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:38:44 -0600 >Organization: kiyap.com News Gateway >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: carbonecho >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Carbonecho has been down for months, but I don't know what happened to >them. Too bad, 'cause it was a really nice site. > >I've never seen anyone offer a degree in Martial Arts, but there are >plenty of places that offer degrees in Asian Studies. Do a search on >the web for Asian Studies and a number of universities will show up. > Doesn't Radford University in Virginia offer a degree in martial arts? If i'm not mistaken, when i used to get Blackbelt Mag, they was an ad about that. They usually have a yearly retreat there, I believe Dr. Jerry Beasley sponsors it. My webpage http://members.blackplanet.com/Jeff_A My karate school: http://heriottkd.wcm1.net/Heriot_Website/Entrance.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Considering a new car? Explore your options and see what you can afford. Checkout the Vehicle search in the New and Improved CollegeClub.com AutoGuide. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:52:16 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: dinosaur training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net btw, you can find out what ray's talking about at www.brookskubik.com . i think we talked about this one maybe two years ago. might be in the backissues. certainly seems like a no BS approach to strength training. take care, melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2003 Annual Show Me State Open Martial Arts Tournament --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:43:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Degrees Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Doesn't Radford University in Virginia offer a degree in martial arts? If > i'm not mistaken, when i used to get Blackbelt Mag, they was an ad about > that. They usually have a yearly retreat there, I believe Dr. Jerry Beasley > sponsors it. I believe that is the case. But I doubt it is an accredited program, e.g. via North Central. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: dinosaur training To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:59:19 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > btw, you can find out what ray's talking about at www.brookskubik.com . i > think we talked about this one maybe two years ago. might be in the > backissues. We only got about this far the last time, too. :) A bit more response over on the Eskrima-FMA list side of the house. > certainly seems like a no BS approach to strength training. Agreed. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "S. H. WEE" To: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:41:02 +0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Taichi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Chen-style is the original Taichi which are still very martial-oriented, Yang Lu-Chang is the first non-Chen family member to be taught Taichi and demonstrated the art to the outside world for the first time at the Forbiden City by defeating all his challengers. The Emperor was so impressed with his skill that he was apponted the head instructor of the Imperial Guards and thus, make Yang-style Taichi the most popular form of Taichi. The Sun, Wu and Manchurian Wu styles are versions developed by three of Yang's best students. If you look carefully at the taichi symbol which consist of Ying (Black colour) and Yang (White colour), there are Yang spot in Ying and Ying spot in Yang. At the extreme of Yang will be Ying and the extreme of Ying, Yang. Contrary to popular belief, Taichi is not a soft art but rather a combinations of soft and hard arts. Though the basic forms and those commonly practised for health purposes are all soft in nature. Some of the advance forms such as Canon Fist (Baochuan) are fast and furious. What amazed me the most about Taichi is that for most martial artists, you can feel their "rhythm" after several bouts but when facing a good Taichi Master, there is no "rhythm" for you to feel. They are incredibily good at switchihng between hard & soft techniques that you will be caught by lots of surprises. Feel like punching into a pillow with a needle inside or a trying to break a block of brick, bracing for the impact that turn-out to be made of Polystyrene. This is probably what Hapkido will be at the hgihest level!! Regards, S. H. Wee --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Kevin Janisse" To: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:35:10 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] re: dinosaur training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Ray, I used many strength building techninques outlined in the Book "Dinosaur Training" by Brooks Kubik (others also) and found them to be effective when properly applied. After 16 months of hard training, starting out soft of course, at a mere weight of 150 lbs I was able to Farmers walk 237 feet with over 350 lbs in under 40 seconds, Dead lift over 450 lbs., Bench over 250lbs, squat over 300lbs, and of course pick up and carry a 200lb rock (yes my neighbors most likely talked about me). For anyone wanting to gain true strength I have found no other system? like it out there. Keep in mind it is very hard to do thus becomes less than popular. So if youy want to be able to pick up someone twice your size and throw them to the ground you might like to give it a try. If you have any specific questions concern this let me know. Sincerely, Kevin Janisse NKMAA --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest