Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #54 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. breaking (sam saenz) 2. double jump spin (DrgnSlyr5@aol.com) 3. (no subject) (Tang Soo Do) 4. Breaking concrete cap blocks (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 5. moderation (michael tomlinson) 6. Re: breaking (Braeswood Martial Arts) 7. Spam (SEXTONR003@hawaii.rr.com) 8. Weapons (SEXTONR003@hawaii.rr.com) 9. RE: Breaking stuff (Dave Weller) 10. Re: Weapons (Ray Terry) 11. Wheat and chaff (Patrick L) 12. All African Games TKD Trials: Nigeria (Oludipe Tolulope) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: sam saenz To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] breaking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What kind and what size of boards for breaking are recommended for students ages 6-12? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have rebreakable boards that the students practice on. Would real wood be about the same size? Thank you for your response. Sam Saenz Member: International Tae Kwon Do Union World Il Do Kwan Federation __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:01:47 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] double jump spin Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Does anyone have a video clip they'd be willing to share of someone landing a double jump spin? Thanks, Sharon --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:07:42 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Tang Soo Do Subject: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Master Richards, Yes, it is customary to line up by rank, and I still prefer them to line up more or less in this manner, though it is more for my convenience as an instructor than a strict custom. They may not be in exact order, but students tend to know where they stand relative to others they train with in skill and experience and no big deal made if someone is out of place. Dear Mr. Wallace, While downward strikes used in power breaking may not mimic combative movements, they may serve to to develop focus and form (many principles of movement are applicable to many situations, thus learning how to maximize the force of a downward strike may improve you ability to perform more combative movements). I do agree that it may be easier for larger people to perform such breaks. I really wouldn't know about how this would impact competition, but for demonstration or as an exercise, I believe it is more impressive for a smaller person to break a number of slabs/boards/bricks as a larger person breaking the same number. You have to remember that the reason downward power breaks are more common is that it is in some ways easier since you can use gravity to your advantage and that there are logistical problems to setting up a power break horizontally. The highest number of boards I've tried to break without a downward strike is 6. With any more than that, getting people to hold them firmly becomes a problem. To break a board at the bottom of a stack usually requires a different kind of strike that hits with a larger surface area, to avoid breaking the top ones, but has enough force transferred through, that, when combined with the weight of the stack above it, will break only the bottom one. This also requires a bit of control and knowledge of the medium being broken, to apply the correct amount of force and follow through (as too much or too little will not have the desired effect). There may be other ways to accomplish this too, but I don't know them. I'm not sure about breaking ones in the middle though. Maybe someone else can enlighten us on that. I'd also like to know what people think about breaking boards versus other materials. Khai Tran --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:39:51 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Breaking concrete cap blocks Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Michael, I don't know anything about the Kempo demo you saw, but I used to use a lot of 8x16x2 inch concrete cap blocks in breaking demos. That is a common standard size. Now we mostly use the scolloped edgers which are cheaper, as well as being easier to break. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:26:43 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] moderation Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Moderation develops discipline, discipline develops willpower, willpower develops ki energy....believe it or not but it is that simple. BUT, there are no shortcuts in life, you reap what you sew, physically and mentally.. Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:33:57 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Sam; Go to www.nkmaa.com enter Timmerman's Martial Arts you will find a link to "Boards for Breaking" Not only will you find it useful for size but also there are pictures to make sure the grains run correctly for breaking. Kat Houston ,NKMAA ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam saenz" To: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] breaking > What kind and what size of boards for breaking are > recommended for students ages 6-12? Any information > would be greatly appreciated. I have rebreakable > boards that the students practice on. Would real wood > be about the same size? Thank you for your response. > > > Sam Saenz > Member: > > International Tae Kwon Do Union > World Il Do Kwan Federation > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 7 From: To: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:43:44 -1000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Spam Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You might find it interesting that 20% of the Spam market is in Hawaii. You can even get Spam, eggs, and rice for breakfast at McDonalds. Randall Sexton I like Spam, especially if it is cooked, but that Hawaiian spam is made of very cheap pork and gives me severe gas!!! Michael Tomlinson --__--__-- Message: 8 From: To: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:50:08 -1000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Weapons Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hey Ray, want me to check out this school for you? Randall Sexton Another interesting site, this one on Hawaii's martial art of Lua. The weapons of Lua: http://www.olohe.com/weapons.html The Lei-o-mano look 'fun'... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:56:49 -0600 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Dave Weller Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Breaking stuff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net One of the best breaks I've seen was a spinning crescent kick on a single suspended board. One of the senior students in our school has done these at several demonstrations. I'm guessing the crowd is not nearly as impressed as those of us who KNOW how hard this really is. After the first demo we learned to send blockers in the direction the busted half was headed... He darn near killed a spectator the first time! Another killer break was by one of my instructors. 4 board break with a Lung Punch(uppercut, upsetting punch or whatever the proper term might be). Have a groovy evening. Dave Weller, student --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Weapons To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:07:41 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Hey Ray, want me to check out this school for you? > > Randall Sexton > > Another interesting site, this one on Hawaii's martial art of Lua. > > The weapons of Lua: > > http://www.olohe.com/weapons.html > > The Lei-o-mano look 'fun'... Sure! FWIW, the fellow that created Danzan-ryu JuJutsu (Henry Okazaki) apparently studied some Lua back in the early 1900s. Danzan-ryu is AKA Hawaian JuJutsu. Since it was forbidden (kapu) to teach the Lua he learned to non-natives, he supposedly incorporated many of the techniques into Danzan-ryu under his own DZR naming scheme. Perhaps he was also an attorney, as this was his loophole for being able to teach Lua techniques to any of his students. :) For more info see http://www.ajjf.org/article03.html. Anyway, to make a short story long... It would be interesting to see just how different Lua is from JuJutsu and/or Hapkido techniques that we might easily recongnize. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Patrick L" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:36:00 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Wheat and chaff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Geoff, In my 30 years experience, I can tell you that like wheat, students are mostly chaff - until they blossom and the berries start to develop. And very much unlike a crop of wheat - they don't develop at the same rate, or at the same time, and some were never wheat at all but are weeds. Getting in the WAY, Patrick >and that the real separation of wheat from chaffe does not occur until Black Belt, or am I being too cynical? Geoff< _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:15:48 -0800 (PST) From: Oludipe Tolulope To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] All African Games TKD Trials: Nigeria Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello class, thought I should share this information with you: TKD trials for the All African Games began in earnest on Wednessday 29th January 2003, to pick the four players/weight who enters national camp. New rules in effect (eventually). So far there's been 3 knockouts &countless knockdowns even though all are keen contestants. Fellow Africans in DD, BEWARE!!! We gone git Gold in all the categories cuz we jis Bee-Ay-Dee :) TaeKwon, Timi D. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719.866.4632 FAX 719.866.4642 ustutkd1@mailsnare.net www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest