Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 03:01:48 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #65 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Thanks_for_the_kudo-s,_but.....?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 2. Re: Shogun video set on ebay (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 3. katu (freddie bishop) 4. nkmaa (freddie bishop) 5. roundhouse (freddie bishop) 6. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Regrets?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 7. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Oh,_I_don't_know.....?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 8. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Training,_weapons_and_the_like....?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 07:53:40 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Thanks_for_the_kudo-s,_but.....?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Charles: Its always nice to get compliments, but I just wanted to take a moment and add a bit of perspective to your comments. Ray, and I, Joe Svinth, Mike DeMarcos, Karl Friday, etc., etc, are not some special people with special intellectual gifts. We are all just average "joes" who have taken the time to follow the information pathway a little farther than most people go. Pretty much the average practitioner will pick-up the odd copy of TKD Times, or Black Belt magazine for their information. Beyond that comes the collecting of popular titles or whatever the going fad is. In time, though, one begins to hear thoughts and rumors that everything one is told or reads in the popular press is not altogether accurate and at that point there is a dividing of the path. One route circles back around to the popular press, and no small number of practitioners take that route with a shrug. It doesn't make them bad people, they simply are content with what they know and what they do. The other path takes off into uncharted hinterlands, and is peopled by independent-thinking "folks from Missouri" who will listen politely to just about anything but will, in the end, expect evidence of some sort to support a position. Such people can be irritating at times as asking for proof or evidence is often taken as doubt of the speakers' integrity or veracity. Its notmeant that way. Its just the nature of research.There are also those folks who use their knowledge as a weapon to intimidate others or elevate themselves above others. Once again these are not bad people, and represent only a small percentage of the MA research world. Most researchers are more than happy to share their resources, and even their publications (as long as you give proper credit when you quote them). I say all of this, Charles, to warmly encourage you to consider taking the latter path in your KMA study. It can be very rewarding even if you never get around to writing a book or article about your information, and your students will thank you for it. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 2 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:02:12 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Shogun video set on ebay Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net hi folks, for anyone interested, i'm selling my copy of the boxed video set of shogun on ebay :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2279&item=3311199363& rd=1 thanks for the bandwidth! take care, mel Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply www.cjmas.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:10:08 -0800 (PST) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] katu Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Terry Yeah, the KATU is good, but there are no tournaments in Indiana under that banner. Mr. Park of Indianapolis has a Chung Do Kwan organization and he promotes a huge tournament there. Mr. Cyrus, the local TKD instructor has attended that tournament but I don't think his students can participate. Fred __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:15:46 -0800 (PST) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] nkmaa Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Timmerman The TKD instructor said Wednesday that he has been in contact with the NKMAA. He said he was impressed with the non political approach of the organization and that he had spoke with a lady, possibly your wife. Fred __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:34:19 -0800 (PST) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] roundhouse Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Timmerman What did you think of my method of teaching him to turn his supporting foot? It did work ya know! Fred __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:11:16 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Regrets?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Rudy: "..... It will be good to see you in Jackson, and I hope our friend Bruce can make it too....." What a great thing to say. Unfortunately, events of the last 6 months have made it impossible for me to participate. As we say in Cub-town, "wait until next year." In the meantime I can only hope that everyone has even half the great time I have had on those occasions when I have been able to go. It is truely not an expereince to be missed if at all possible. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:19:45 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Oh,_I_don't_know.....?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Charles: "....but I must say you two have a much more seamingly firm grip of Japanese and Okinawan history, and your arts probably have very little if no ifluence from these countries....." I am guessing that Yon Mu Kwan Hapkido probably has a sufficient amount of Japanese influence. Afterall, GM Myung had quite a bit of background in TKD and Kendo and it shows significantly in his hyung. However, I work to balance that off by considering the Chinese equivalents of many of the biomechanics and techniques whenever possible. I sometimes consider the development of technique as the development of a weapon made of spring steel-- with heavy on the "spring" and light on the "steel". Chinese traditions seem to work towards this end for me. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:29:19 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Training,_weapons_and_the_like....?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Charles: ".....Take this one step further, doesn't it make a lot of sense to do this progression anyway. 1. The beginners need all the conditioning, increased flexability and gross motor motion they can get. 2. Do you really want to add too much pressure point information to someone in the "gross motor motion" phase. 3. The bigger stances will also help the body unaware beginners "see/feel" how changing or moving through stances moves the center around and generates energy...." I think you are on the money, however, I would not make it a hard and fast progression but rather a steady change which one would expect to see as the person develops in their training. If it does not happen this way (for instance if a student slavishly attaches to something like deep stances) then its up to the teacher to nudge them a bit and find out where they are stuck. "........as weapons go I tend to view them as extensions and levers for basic motions and explain that advanced (or weapons) techniques are just applications of solid basic motions. What does change (say with the slight but added weight of a sword or staff) is the balance point and location of your center...." Weapons are nothing more than amplifiers of intent. What you do with the body MT handed is the same as what you do holding a weapon. The center is still two inches below your belly-button and two-inches in. You energy is still directed towards the assailant though now through an item you are holding. To my way of thinking it is not so much that you are learning to do something WITH an item in your hand, as you have been in all the time up to that point working WITHOUT anything in your hands. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719.866.4632 FAX 719.866.4642 ustutkd1@mailsnare.net www.ustu.org Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest