Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:01:50 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #68 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Korean Warrior Monk Stuff (Mark M. Smith) 2. Risks (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Jackson Seminar (J.R. West) 4. Hai Dong Magazine (fwd) (Ray Terry) 5. LEE Won-kuk (Ray Terry) 6. Re: Hai Dong Magazine (fwd) (Jye nigma) 7. Re: Jackson Seminar (bmac2) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:16:39 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: "Mark M. Smith" Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean Warrior Monk Stuff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce, >When I find a good resource, though, I usually try to get a copy for myself. You can order the dissertation online at: http://wwwlib.umi.com/dxweb/ They quote 4-5 business days for delivery. A little pricey at $34.95, but you will have your own copy in a few days. Respectfully, Mark M. Smith Merrimack, NH --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:45:23 -0800 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Risks Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce writes: > speaking out does come with some > risk. Personally I have come to believe that we train in MA so that we > might develop the character to do or say the right thing when its time. Hi Bruce: I agree wholeheartedly with you on both counts. Speaking out always comes at the risk of being flamed or otherwise attacked, and martial artists should have the gumption to stand up for their beliefs. The latter makes me wonder what kind of person it is that makes nasty statements and personal attacks on websites without leaving their name or contact address. Having had this happen on several occasions, I now go into the guestbook and change in the copy of their statement to read a much more friendly message. I do this so that the person in question may feel better about him or herself. It has also stopped some of these folks cold:) Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:01:00 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Jackson Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am sorry to report the passing of Dr. Kimm's mother-in-law. Due to some re-scheduling that was necessary to accommodate family concerns, Dr. Kimm will not make his usual appearance at the 18th international seminar in Jackson next month. If anyone was planning on purchasing one of his books, he can be reached at 225-924-2837. Dr. Kimm will be happy to sign any of his books and send them to you.......J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:20:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Hai Dong Magazine (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: Hai Dong Magazine 10030 Baltimore National Pike Suite D-180 Ellicott City, Maryland 21042 TEL: (410)750-8000 Email: Hai_Dong@haidongmagazine.com February 10, 2003 Greetings to the Hai Dong Gumdo community, We are happy to announce the activation of the Official Publication for the World Hai Dong Gumdo Federation: The Hai Dong Magazine. The Hai Dong Magazine's staff has been given exclusive authorization from Jeong-Ho Kim, President of The World Hai Dong Gumdo Federation, to produce this international publication for Hai Dong Gumdo practitioners. The Hai Dong Magazine will provide an international forum for the subscribers to interact with The World Hai Dong Gumdo Federation. Championship coverages, in-depth interviews, and Kumdo tournament statistics will be published for all levels of appreciation. We invite our friends and fellow practitioners to visit our website: http://www.haidongmagazine.com The Hai Dong Magazine is the World Hai Dong Gumdo Federation's exclusive publication for the discipline and majesty of the Korean Sword. It is our honor to serve, The Staff of the Hai Dong Magazine --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:14:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] LEE Won-kuk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I haven't said anything since this has been incorrectly reported several times in the past. But... it appears that Chung Do Kwan founder, and some believe Taekwondo founder, Gm LEE Won-kuk recently passed. He had a good long life. RIP Ray >From the Modern History of Taekwondo... Chapter 1: Development of the Korean Kwans Section 1: Chung Do Kwan Right after the independence of Korea the Chung Do Kwan, one of the five key dojangs, was founded first. It symbolized the Chung Do Kwan's name, Blue Waves, meaning a youngster's spirit and vitality. Chung Do Kwan's founder, Lee Won Kuk, moved to Japan when he was 19 years old, in 1926. While in Japan he first attended high school and then entered the law school of Chuo University. Then he joined Japan's Karate-do headquarters, the Song Do Kwan (Shotokan). He received Karate instruction from Karate's father, Funakoshi Sensei. There he learned Karate with the Song Moo Kwan's founder, Ro Byung Jick. He moved back to Japan and taught Tang Soo Do in the Yong Shin school hall in Suh Dae Moon Gu's Ochun Dong, Seoul because he had a good relationship with Japan's Chosun Governor General Abe in 1944. This led to the rumor that he was pro-Japanese. Later, Oh Do Kwan's founder, Choi Hong Hi said "After independence Lee Kwan Jang was charged with acts of pro-Japanese and stood in a special civil trial." Lee Won Kuk was a precise person. He had a strong body of a martial artist and glaringly sharp eyes. His expression was very strict. Right after the independence day he seemed to offset his pro-Japanese deeds by developing a good relationship with people of the National Police Headquarters. He led the efforts to get rid of Seoul gangsters. The Chung Do Kwan was once called the National Police Headquarters dojang. After the Korean War the Chung Do Kwan members were less than 200. GM Lee Won Kuk visited the school twice and watched the lessons. The primary instructors were Yoo Ung Jun and Son Duk Sung with promotion tests given every six months. Graduates of the Chung Do Kwan were: (1) Yoo Ung Jun, (2) Son Duk Sung, (3) Uhm Woon Kyu, (4) Hyun Jong Myun, (5) Min Woon Sik, (6) Han In Sook, (7) Jung Young Taek, (8) Kang Suh Chong, (9) Baek Joon Ki, (10) Nam Tae Hi, (11) Ko Jae Chun, (12) Kwak Kuen Sik, (13) Kim Suk Kyu, (14) Han Cha Kyo, (15) Jo Sung Il, (16) Lee Sa Man, (17) Rhee Jhoon Goo (Jhoon Rhee), and (18) Kim Bong Sik. >From Inchon, which became the center of the Chung Do Kwan's annex Kwans, more schools were opened. They were: (1) Kang Suh Chong's Kuk Mu Kwan, (2) Lee Yong Woo's Jung Do Kwan in Suh Dae Moon Ku, (3) Ko Jae Chun's Chung Ryong Kwan in Kwang Ju and (4) Choi Hong Hi's Oh Do Kwan. The Oh Do Kwan especially had active Chung Do Kwan members who were in the military after the Korean War. The Chung Do Kwan's first Kwan Jang was Lee Won Kuk, the second was Son Duk Sung, and the third was Uhm Woon Kyu. When Son Duk Sung because the Kwan Jang of the Chung Do Kwan, Uhm Woon Kyu, Hyun Jong Myun, and Nam Tae Hi had conflicts with regard to the issue of who should receive the nomination from Lee Won Kuk and become the next Kwan Jang. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:10:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hai Dong Magazine (fwd) To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What's the difference between kumdo and gumdo? Jye __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:54:15 -0600 From: "bmac2" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Jackson Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Our hearts go out to Dr. Kimm and his family. We will respectfully wait and order our books via email or snail mail as family must come first. We will of course bring them with us next year for him to sign. Again our thoughts are with Dr. Kimm. Kat and all the students of BMAC ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719.866.4632 FAX 719.866.4642 ustutkd1@mailsnare.net www.ustu.org Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest