Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:05:03 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #127 - 13 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Seminar Pictures (Chris LaCava) 2. Jackson recap (lkeatley@sympatico.ca) 3. Tittles (Charles Richards) 4. Jung Shin Spirit (Charles Richards) 5. Photo (Charles Richards) 6. Round Kick (Charles Richards) 7. Throws and Rolls (Dewitt, Garrett) 8. Texas Seminar (bmac2) 9. Salute (Morgan James) 10. HKD Eagle (hapkido@interfold.com) 11. Re: HKD Eagle (Ray Terry) 12. One more.. (Morgan James) 13. R-E-S-P-E-C-T (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Chris LaCava" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:53:00 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Seminar Pictures Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I went to go pick up the pictures of the Seminar and... BANG... I was told none of them came out. Somewhere along the line they got exposed and I wound up with nothin. Well, I would like to ask if anyone could help a "Hapkidoin who's down on his luck" with photos. If anyone is willing to share their shots I would greatly appreciate it. I knew I should have payed more attention to my photographer girlfriend while I was being briefed. :) Thanks & Take care. Chris "from CT" LaCava's Martial Arts Westport, CT. http://lmaa.bravepages.com Online Store- http://www.cafepress.com/hapkidogear _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 2 From: To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 8:22:02 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Jackson recap Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all, Well, finally got my life back in a semblance or order after the trip to Jackson. It took at least a couple of showers to get rid of all the brick dust that was flying around from Charles and the others. Although Master Instructor Tavassoli had the most unique way of attacking the brick. (Was that a 12 or 20 gauge?) It was a long drive but the seminar was worth it. The material presented was great. Sessions such as Master Terry's knife techniques and Master West's Advanced Hapkido class gave me new concepts and some that I had forgotten I knew along the way. I guess the cold weather up here slows brain activity. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Anyways, those sessions have given me a lot to work on for then next few months. The thing that most impressed me was the lack of egos at the event. As you all know this is a refreshing change for most seminars, and the USKMAF is to be commended. It was also good to see and meet other NKMAA members while we were there. And of course Master Booth's humour was worth the trip itself. It was also fun to spend many hours in the Charlie Chaplin suite, maybe too many come to think of it now. Oh well. All in all, it was a great experience!! Even the palm strikes (just a lttle though). Got to go shovel, Lorne Keatley --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Tittles Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Jo Kyo Nim = first dahn (assistant Instructor) Kyo Sa Nim = second dahn (minimum rank for teacher in my school) Bu (Pu) Sabum Nim = third dahn (Head Instructor) Sabum Nim = fourth dahn (assistant Master and/or Chief Instructor) Kwan Jang Nim = fifth - eight dahn (Master Instructor) Chong Kwan Jang Nim = seventh and/or eighth dahn (Chief Master) Sa Ja Nim = Inheritor (usually ninth dahn) (my Grand Master passed away unexpectedly, so I will always be an 8th dahn) (Grand Master) Doju Nim = Founder and/or head of the system (ninth dahn) <> Timmerman Sa Ja Nim, Thank you for the clarification. The tittles are pretty much what Shin Kwan Jang Nim taught me, except I never hear him use the last three. So If I make it through three bricks and wansu to 5th the tittle would be Kwan Jang Nim, and if I live long enough I could become Doju Nim of Moja Kwan and my Son or Daughter could become Sa Ja Nim :-) Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Jung Shin Spirit Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Hello Charles: I must apologize for not recognizing you right way, but I met so many wonderful people last year that I had placed the wrong picture to your name. Now I'll never forget it:) Thank you also for being such a great spirited martial artist. Working with you was such a pleasure, and you have a wonderful way to rekindle that Jung Shin Spirit in my old body. Congratulations to you and your student on grasping the underlying aspects of the heavy hand concept. Next year I'll expect you to do three bricks without spacers:) <> Sa Ja Nim, No need to apologize with the number of people at the event, I'm still have techniques and faces run together. I like you post because the excitement generated in my 7th Gup student that attended (and broke his first brick) has sparked up some new Jung Shin Spirit for me too. Of course it doesn't hurt that Mr. Joe Clarke brought his whole family of blackbelts over to my school last night to work on guess what (Palm strikes). Well Texans it looks like the North Georgia invasion is building momentum. My 7th Gup has already begun to make flight arrangements for July 26th at Ms. Kelly's. Last nite he told me "I'm going to Texas." I guess I need to sign up a few more new students so I can muster the funds for Houston and Jackson in August. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:54:23 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Photo Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Ray writes: Rudy, should you ever need to see a properly identified picture of Charles in the future you can simply pop across the border and see it in any US Postal Service office. Right up there in the window with pics of nine other guys... :) <> OK I'll go public. Here's a link for my family of purple belts (4th Gup) and my ranking youth (5th Gup Blue). Rodney is on the left, and the future Doju Nim of Moja Kwan is holding the future Sa Ja Nim.... http://www.mojakwan.com/newbeltgroup1.JPG Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:09:42 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: Dojang Digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Round Kick Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear List (and TSD instructors), Here's a question I had before the seminar, but needed some time to ponder on before I posted. I hope some of the sports physiologists on the list might comment also :-) Question How do you do roundhouse kick and why? Why don't you do the other way? Background Basically I see two ways to do roundhouse kick. 1. Chamber the knee, with the hips open and the lower leg parallel to the ground. Torque you hips so that the thigh moves through the center line and let the instep "flip" at the peak of acceleration.... 2. As shown on Coach Han Lee's tapes. Pick the knee up in front (like front kick chamber) and pivot on the standing foot as you kick from out to in (closing the hip). Note this usually ends up with the lower leg 30 to 45 degrees from parallel with the floor. People/systems who use #2 typically chamber almost all kicks in this method (thinking being it's more deceptive for sparring). Method #1 is what's described in Richard Chun's Book and Nakayama's. So for me I'm thinking method #2 makes more sense for the Moja Kwan Philosophy, but method #1 seems to be the "Traditional TSD" way. To my knowldege, Round kick does not appear in any TSD Hyung so that's another reason I'd be OK with letting go of the traditional way. Having seen several good posts about injury prevention and sound biomechanics, I hope folks will talk about the effects on the knees and ankles of both types of kicking. Yours in Jung Do, CHarles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Dewitt, Garrett" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:24:42 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Throws and Rolls Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Grandmaster Timmerman wrote: "we begin with simple cartwheels, one handed cartwheels, and elbow cartwheels. After that, a few people actually begin to get the idea of the aerial. All of these things are done on the fat mat. Front and backward summersaults are started on the fat mat." Hello Grandmaster Timmerman. I knew there was something amiss whenever I travel there for training. I never get to use the "fat mat." This is quite possibly the reason I may have trouble just finding the front door after a class... Mmmmmmmmm, I knew I should have worn a White Belt on my first visit. We are all really looking forward to your Second Annual Hapkido Seminar here in Minnesota as we have all stocked up on advil, etc..... Thank You Respectfully Submitted Master DeWitt --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:46:29 -0600 From: "bmac2" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Texas Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 1st, Thanks Charles for all the great plugs. WOW!!! As it has been discussed here on the DD a couple of times I thought, if Ray will allow me, I should give everyone the scoop. http://www.braeswoodmartialart.com/News-Events.html This link will take you to our news and events page, where you can scole down to the July Seminar and downlaod a registration form and information page. Please feel free to contact me if you have trouble or would like me to mail one. Here's the scoop: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:00 AM - 8:00 PM NKMAA - Kong Shin Bup Seminar - Houston, TX ages 6 & up / all ranks all styles (juniors portion will conclude around 3:30pm) Braeswood Martial Arts 9606 Chimney Rock @ South Braeswood Houston, Texas 77096 713-283-6000 fax 713-283-8400 bmac2@ev1.net We will definately do a little brick breaking (adults only)!!! I cannot wait to see everyone! We are all very excited and hope to make this an annual event. Please feel free to contact me directly and privately as to not take up space on the DD with any questions. Sincerely Kat ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Morgan James To: 'Dojang Digest' Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:09:47 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Salute Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Good People! I have asked this before on DD but got NO responses so I'm gonna try it again.... Does anyone know the Korean term for "salute"?? In some TKD dojangs, upon entering the training area, students salute the flags by bringing their right hand over their heart and then return it to their side before bowing. I've seen it done with the hand both opened AND closed. I have searched for the proper Korean term for this command but cannot find it anywhere! Thank you. James Morgan www.gtkda.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:24:34 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: [The_Dojang] HKD Eagle Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Actually the eagle DJN Ji uses is a golden eagle. --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] HKD Eagle To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:40:31 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Actually the eagle DJN Ji uses is a golden eagle. Good catch. Here is a post I made in August 2000 regarding Gm Ji's HKD eagle logo... "I always like to get one little piece of history out of him each time we chat... So this time I asked when the eagle first started being used as a logo for Hapkido. He indicated that he was the first to use the eagle in a Hapkido logo, and this occured in 1967. He said that he decided on the flying eagle catching the arrow given (1) [to him] the eagle is the king of birds, (2) flying depicts freedom and being free, and (3) catching the arrow indicates that the weapon that was used to attack has been countered and disabled." Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Morgan James To: 'Dojang Digest' Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:38:25 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] One more.. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Also, does anyone know the proper Korean term(s) for "School Rules" or "guidelines"? Thanks again. James Morgan www.gtkda.com --__--__-- Message: 13 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:53:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] R-E-S-P-E-C-T Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Korean Customs - Respect Respect for others according to seniority is a pillar of Korea's Confucianist traditions. Seniority is based on age, position in the family, job position, being a teacher, and the list goes on. * When drinking with a much older person, it is customary to turn your head away to take a drink. Some Koreans may feel strange about a foreigner doing so, and they will tell you if that's the case. * If you are smoking while walking along and you approach an older person, either hide or put out your cigarette. Korean teens that smoke typically do so in stairways and basement levels of buildings, away from adult's eyes. To westerners it seems sexist, but Korean women who smoke are seen as women of loose morals (if you get my meaning). * Koreans believe that direct eye contact during conversation shows boldness, and out of politeness they concentrate on the conversation, usually avoiding eye-to-eye contact. * Out of respect for the elderly, young people usually give up their seats for an aged person on a crowded bus or subway train. Nowadays some young people do not but most still do. Most Koreans wouldn't expect a foreigner to do this, but if you do it will make you look like a well-mannered guest in their country. * Koreans shake hands and bow at the same time. The depth of the bow depends on the relative seniority of the two people. * When you receive something (a present, a cup, a pen, etc.) from an older person, you should use two hands when receiving it, with a bow. If it's small enough for one hand, use one hand to receive it and the other under your forearm or your lower chest (for support). When you are shaking hands with an older person, use two hands. If the person receiving the gift is younger or lower in stature, passing with one hand is acceptable. * Confucian tradition also demands that the elderly be treated at all times with the utmost respect. When elders are present, young Koreans would never lounge around, wear sunglasses, or expect to eat first. * Relationships with friends are the one area where Koreans can view each other as equals. Friends, however, really means those born the same year who are, therefore, the same age and capable of being equal. Article by Ted Rubenstein of the Sigma Institute. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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