Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:36:01 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #130 - 24 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Korean terms (K. Barends) 2. World Hapkido Federation site (Galeos Antonis) 3. re: Kukgi (Robin Hebert) 4. Y.J.Chung (michael tomlinson) 5. Re: Salute (Ali Alnasser) 6. Re: Re: Korean terms (Denise Lee) 7. Welcome back Mac! (Allen Sharpe) 8. Kong Shin Bup Hyung (Allen Sharpe) 9. Translations (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 10. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Sounds_Familiar?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 11. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Who_the_Hell_writes_this_stuff=3F?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 12. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Chicago_Seminar_?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 13. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Website_Follow-up_?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 14. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Salute_?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 15. Be Published (Dr. Daryl Covington) 16. Red peppers in Korea (Don Frick) 17. Various (Ray Terry) 18. Korean terms (Chris H.) 19. Re: Kong Shin Bup Hyung (Braeswood Martial Arts) 20. Salute (crystal_cougar@juno.com) 21. crescent kick (Michael Whalen) 22. Master Hodder (J.R. West) 23. round kick/kuk ki (Michael Whalen) 24. ITF news (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:09:00 +0100 From: "K. Barends" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean terms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Hi James, > In my experience, the term for salute, salutation, and bow is > "kyongnye" > as in: "Sabom Nim kay kyongnye." Not too sure what the "kay" indicates, > though. The 'kay' (I think it's actually aykay) is a marker, just like they use markers for the objects/subjects etc. in a sentence. You could losely translate it here as 'to'. Bow to sabunim. You use 'ay' when addressing things, and 'aykay' when addressing humans. Kukgi ay kyongnye = bow to flag. -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Galeos Antonis To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:09:55 +0200 Subject: [The_Dojang] World Hapkido Federation site Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm trying to get to World Hapkido Federation's site (worldhapkidofederation.com) but it dosnt work . Does anybody knows if the site works or is now in another address ? Disclaimer This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete the copy from your system. EFG Eurobank Ergasias S.A. is not responsible for, nor endorses, any opinion, recommendation, conclusion, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information contained in this communication. EFG Eurobank Ergasias S.A. cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Robin Hebert" To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:24:29 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] re: Kukgi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Want to thank all of you for leading me down the right path as far the correct definition of kukgi. We use Korean for all of our commands and "Kukgi Ba Rae" is what we use for salute the flag. Guess in my rush to try to be helpful I didn't think it through all of the way!! That was even a question on my BB test, and I got it right, short memory..... I'm one of those who always "translates" as I go, where as my husband just throws Korean around like it's his second language. (ha, ha). Thank you to all who corrected me! So, does that mean that the Ba Rae is Salute? --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:51:32 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Y.J.Chung Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net As far as I know, I haven't seen him in two years, but the last time I visited his Dojang it was in Englewood Ohio, which is a northern suburb of Dayton Ohio, Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Ali Alnasser" To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:00:54 +0900 (KST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Salute Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I was taught it was Kukkie Kyunggye...Not sure on the correct spelling...[TABLE NOT SHOWN] [TABLE NOT SHOWN][TABLE NOT SHOWN][IMAGE] --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Denise Lee" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean terms Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:14 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > The 'kay' (I think it's actually aykay) is a marker, just like they use > markers for the objects/subjects etc. in a sentence. You could losely > translate it here as 'to'. Bow to sabunim. > You use 'ay' when addressing things, and 'aykay' when addressing humans. > kind regards, > Klaas Barends Another Han Guk Mal mystery solved. THANKS, so much Klaas!! Best wishes- Denise --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Allen Sharpe" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:07:55 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Welcome back Mac! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Mac, Glad to hear you had a good vacation. We'll have to get together sometime soon. I'll be in Alabama at our annual Masters Camp for one week and then it's back to the 50 hour work-week! {grimace and grin}. BTW, I'm planning on having another Korean Martial Arts Seminar this summer in Spring and was wondering if you would like to participate as a guest instructor? Last time it was all TSD, but this time I would like to have an assortment of Korean arts represented. We can get together and discuss this over lunch one day if you are interested. Also, I would like to invite other instructors once I properly meet them and perhaps you could give me feedback on this. I was thinking of possibly one or two more guests. As to the bulletin board, it's a breath of fresh air and I welcome the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn a thing or two outside my comfort zone. Although I have experience with the Chil Sung Hyung (I learned Oh Ro Hyung from Grandmaster Hwang Kee and Master HC Hwang in the mid 80's)I have not experienced the Yuk Ro Hyungs or later Chil sung. Does anyone have experiece with these hyung or does anyone know of any resources for these forms? Like Master Mac, I enjoy the hyung especially from an artistic point of view and would like to preserve as many as possible for my students. Take care and keep in touch. Tang Soo, Allen Sharpe _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Allen Sharpe" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:17:00 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Kong Shin Bup Hyung Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Many years ago I learned the KSW hyung through Guhm Moo Hyung and started on Baek Pal Gi Hyung before I parted ways with that organization (issues with converting my current art and students to KSW). I really enjoyed the hyung and the training although never tested out for Cho Dan (I trained with KJN Jay Lee, Dickson Kuntz and Song). In fact, one of my prior Cho Dans is now teaching under Master(s) Barry and Choon-Ok Harmon in his own school in Meyerland. Since then, I resumed my Hapkido training which I had pursued prior to KSW but I still enjoy the art (not the politics). My question is: Are the hyung in Kong Shin Bup the same or similar to KSW? If possible, I would like a refresher on the hyung I have learned. I plan on attending Ms. Kelly's seminar in Houston with Grandmaster Timmerman and look forward to meeting them and also all who attend that day. Many thanks, Allen Sharpe _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:18:54 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Translations Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray, You are correct. And Kyung yeh is translated by my Kwan Jang Nim as bow, though it may mean more the concept than the actual physical bow. KJN translates "ba rae" as salute, and it does not include a bow. Danny Dunn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kuk Ki Dihe Kyung Neh - salute/bow to the national flag > Won Ki Dihe Kyung Neh - salute/bow to the association flag My Korean is non-existent, but isn't Kukki and Wonki in the above National Flag and Association Flag? Someone earlier mentioned they thought kukgi/kukki was salute. But I don't think so...???>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:39:43 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Sounds_Familiar?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Dave: ".....My name is Dave Pryga and my wife Christy and I operate a health/martial arts club in central Wisconsin......" Hmmmm. What a coincidence! I have heard tell of a Dave Pryga in the far reaches of Northern Wisconsin. The rumor is that he has fallen under the spell of a Missisippi witch doctor of some sort and that every now and then said witch doctor travels north to spread his brand of Hapkido mysticism. :-) How about giving us some information about the next time the "coven" is going to meet. I understand Master West has something planned in the next couple of months. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:52:51 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Who_the_Hell_writes_this_stuff=3F?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ".....Article courtesy of the Korean Overseas Information Service...." I wish the folks who put these thumbnail histories together would either provide all the significant facts or keep quiet. a.) It might have helped to identify those "countless (?)" entities for the various central Asian nomadic people that they were including the Sythians. The only reason that I mention this is that current wisdom ascribes the development of Iron metalurgy to this influence. No small influence, that. b.) It also might have helped to identify Kaya among the kingdoms of what we know as the "Three Kingdoms" period. The fact that the Yamato heritage in Japan has its roots in both the Kaya and Paekshe kingdoms is another little bit that needs to be put out there. c.) As embarrassing as it is, it might have helped to mention the Mongol invasions that put Korea under the Yuan dynasty and coerced them into helping with the Mongol attempts at invasion to the Japanese islands. Along these lines it would have helped to mention the continual and repeated trading relations between Japan and Korea that were only momentarily interrupted by the Imjin War. Also, the manner in which Mongol subjugation effectively erased Korean culture and set the stage for a turning point in cultural development was likewise no small item. I know that folks like to put their best foot forward when stepping on to the International stage. All the same, US history would lose somethinbg if you skipped over the American Civil War even if the issue of slavery wasn't one of our high points. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:58:27 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Chicago_Seminar_?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Rudy: "....I would like to extend a hearty welcome to anyone in range to visit with me during the following seminars. April 12. Brainerd, MN. For information contact Master Garrett DeWitt on the DD May 17. Sault Ste Marie, ON For information contact me at kwanjang@sympatico.ca June 28. Kitchener, ON For information contact me at kwanjang@sympatico.ca July 26. Houston, TX For information contact JKN Kat Kelly on the DD July 27. Chicago, IL For information contact me at kwanjang@sympatico.ca............." If there is somewhere I can get information on the Chicago event I can post that to my website. In fact if you have this posted on your website, let me know and I will cut&paste it onto my site as well. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:05:55 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Website_Follow-up_?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Ray: "......Assuming, of course, that all member schools have a generally accepted syllabus for the gup and dan ranks. But I doubt that is the case, esp in the gup ranks......" Can you give a bit more information on this? I had concluded--- perhaps erroneously--- that all members of the KHF ascribed to the same curriculum and authority figures perhaps along the lines of what the WKSWA is to Kuk Sool or the WHRDA is to Master Lees' Hwa Rang Do organization. Is the KHF more of an umbrella organization comparable to the Kidohae accepting disparate arts, or is there simply a whole lot of latitude in what they teach and to whom? "...Assuming, of course, that all member schools have a generally accepted syllabus for the gup and dan ranks. But I doubt that is the case, esp in the gup ranks. ".....And then tell them to expect lots of questions from Mr. Sims...." Am I to understand that I ask a lot of questions? :-) Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 14 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:19:19 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Salute_?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Folks: I have been watching the latest round of posts regarding the way in which one "salutes" in the dochang and quietly smiling to myself. Some time back I mentioned that I thought that the use of the Korean language, while interesting, is counter-productive to the education of the students. I am thinking, now, that folks have pretty much made my case. Thinking back a few DD issues to Rays' post on Korean ettiquette, I believe that if I can get my students to carry an attitude of respect and cooperation on to the mat for two hours it reall won't matter if its accompanied by Korean language or English. Afterall is a bow somehow MORE sincere when accompanied by Korean language? My students bow on and off the floor and bow to each other when they circle-up for class. Warm-ups and drills are likewise done in a circle. What I work to engender is a sense of group effort among equals. What I have seen of the use of ranks and hierarchy seems to have an inhibiting effect on the cohesion of the class. In like manner I think that knowing Korean terminology while nice, has a tendency to be used for one-upsmanship by those who know the "secret language" as insiders against the new people who have not been around long enough to have the inside information. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 15 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: "Dr. Daryl Covington" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Be Published Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net We (Vice Pres. and Pres. of Karate for Christ International) are currently composing a book on "Martial Arts instructors on Instructing". It is nearing its completed state. I would like to open the opportunity to any of the instructors in the "dojang digest" that would like to submit an essay for inclusion in the book to do so. Please send it in email, not attachments, to drdarylrcovington@yahoo.com. Include a BRIEF martial arts Bio, and a statement giving us permission to use your work. Proceeds from this book will be going to ministry. Grace and Peace, Dr. Daryl R. Covington, 6th Dan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --__--__-- Message: 16 From: "Don Frick" To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:07:52 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] Red peppers in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > * There are many family rituals tied to Confucian tradition. You might > see a string of dried red peppers hung across an entrance to a Korean > home. These signify the birth of a boy within a week. Fun fact: The Korean word for the peppers is "Gotch-jang" (romanization probably wrong). If you take the first syllable and append an "i", you get the korean word for the thing that, uh, only boys have. Of course, rumors that the word was chosen because of a resemblance to those small, shriveled things are greatly exaggerated ;) --__--__-- Message: 17 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Various Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Afterall is a bow somehow MORE sincere when accompanied by > Korean language? To a Korean, I suspect it is... > Can you give a bit more information on this? I had > concluded--- perhaps erroneously--- that all members of > the KHF ascribed to the same curriculum and authority > figures perhaps along the lines of what the WKSWA is to > Kuk Sool or the WHRDA is to Master Lees' Hwa Rang Do > organization. I believe it is closer to Kukkiwon's approach. However note that the KHF's requirements for 1st Dan have been posted here a time or two in the past. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 18 From: "Chris H." To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:06:47 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean terms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> I believe that that kuk ki means more to the effect of national symbol or flag, in the same way of hanguk (Korean nation) or miguk (American nation). Someone also asked about the honorific "nim" being used for women; if I'm not mistaken the title ma'am is samo-nim in Korean. How about "kungye" for salute, or is that specifically used for bow? Chris in Baton Rouge p.s. for those of you keeping up with it, it seems our serial killer has struck again. They recovered the body of another LSU student yesterday. She was abducted at her back door after returning from the grocery store. It is really a tragic situation, and many women are scared out of their wits with this guy running loose. Sales of guns and pepper spray are going through the roof. Like the last time this happened, we can expect to see another rush of new students, I guess until people become complacent again. --__--__-- Message: 19 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Kong Shin Bup Hyung Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:14:23 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net hello Allen, KSB has many empty hand forms and a few of them are also found in the KSW curriculum. I am glad you are planning on attending our seminar and looking forward to meeting you. We seem to share a few of the same instructors and associates in our KSW history :) LOL small world hey BMAC has open training sessions on Saturday's at 11:30 AM for students and invited guests as long as no testing or BBC is on the calendar. Please feel free to stop by and we can certainly work out. Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Sharpe" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Kong Shin Bup Hyung > Many years ago I learned the KSW hyung through Guhm Moo Hyung and started on > Baek Pal Gi Hyung before I parted ways with that organization (issues with > converting my current art and students to KSW). I really enjoyed the hyung > and the training although never tested out for Cho Dan (I trained with KJN > Jay Lee, Dickson Kuntz and Song). In fact, one of my prior Cho Dans is now > teaching under Master(s) Barry and Choon-Ok Harmon in his own school in > Meyerland. Since then, I resumed my Hapkido training which I had pursued > prior to KSW but I still enjoy the art (not the politics). > My question is: Are the hyung in Kong Shin Bup the same or similar to > KSW? If possible, I would like a refresher on the hyung I have learned. I > plan on attending Ms. Kelly's seminar in Houston with Grandmaster Timmerman > and look forward to meeting them and also all who attend that day. > > Many thanks, > Allen Sharpe > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 20 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:12:38 -0600 From: crystal_cougar@juno.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Salute Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Does anyone know the Korean term for "salute"?? Howdy, just started getting the DD >From what I understand "kyongnye" means salute. We use the term for bowing to the instructor as well as saluting the flag. I looked this up in my dad's Korean English dictionary: "kyongnye"-salutation; salute; bow. My dad has been told by Korean masters in the past, that you bow to people, and salute flags. Denise said "Not too sure what the "kay" indicates, though." well, from what I was told, when you use the 'kay' before the salute, it means salute to, for example "Sabom Nim kay kyongnye" would mean 'bow to the instructor'. I agree with Klaas, that "Kukgi" means flag. We usually say "kukgi torah" (turn to the flag) then "kyongnye" to salute it. hope that helps -mindy --__--__-- Message: 21 From: "Michael Whalen" To: "dojang digest" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:58:22 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] crescent kick Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've heard about the crescent kick on the DD quite a few times. Maybe JKN Kat Kelley, since we have trained together, can tell me the kuk sool name/version for this kick. (Or anyone else who has crosstrained in KSW) thanks michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 22 From: "J.R. West" To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:02:26 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Hodder Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net . I am still stunned, and being me, am not used to folks calling me Grandmaster, Rich will do just fine. > Master Hodder: As you know, I fought against the term "master" forever when people tried to put it in front of my name, but Dr. Kimm finally intervened about 6 or 7 years ago and I agreed to use the term organizationally, BUT with the understanding that I wouldn't ever use the GM term. I have no problem with others using it, and there are several on this digest that more than deserve it, but I am more than a little uncomfortable when it is thrown my way. Congratulations again and best wishes....JRW --__--__-- Message: 23 From: "Michael Whalen" To: "dojang digest" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:11:09 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] round kick/kuk ki Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >We don't do it the other way, because I feel the open leg (as in a doggie using the hydrant) leaves the groin exposed.> When we do this kick "the other way" we also add a "Y" block with our arms covering the groin and temple areas. Yes. (noun before the verb in this case) michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 24 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:14:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF news Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ITF IRAN February 23rd 2003 Thesseloniki, Greece Master Davoud Arjomand held a meeting with ITF President, Mr. Chang Ung, together with ITF Executive Members in Capsis Hotel, Thesseloniki, Greece on February 23rd 2003. Master Arjomand explained the whole issue about the ITF in Iran. He gave a detailed briefing about his meeting two years ago with the late ITF President and Founder of TaeKwon-Do Gen. Choi Hong Hi. He also explained to the President concerning the ITF development in Iran and Middle East Regions. After listening to Master Davoud Arjomands report and Grand Master Park Jong Soos confirmed statement of his instructor-student relationship with Master Arjomand dated back early 1970. ITF made the following decisions: Master Davoud Arjomand was officially appointed as the ITF REPRESENTATIVE in Iran with a letter of Appointment by ITF President, Mr. Chang Ung. Master Davoud Arjomand was officially promoted to ITF 8TH Degree. Master Davoud Arjomand officially invited ITF President, Mr.Chang Ung to visit Iran. He also requested ITF to send Grand Master Park Jong Soo and Master Phap Lu for International Seminars. Furthermore, Master Davoud Arjomand invited the ITF TaeKwon-Do Demonstration Team of D.P.R. of Korea visit Iran on May 20-23 2003. These invitations and requested were accepted and approved by ITF President, Mr. Chang Ung. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719.866.4632 FAX 719.866.4642 ustutkd1@mailsnare.net www.ustu.org Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest