Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:01:49 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #148 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: kuk sool (Michael Whalen) 2. Re: jason (Michael Whalen) 3. RE: Time will tell (Stovall, Craig) 4. Re: Day of belt promotion (Braeswood Martial Arts) 5. Hosting Master Hodder (Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy) 6. MYDBTJ (Charles Veuleman) 7. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Interpreting_Hyung?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Michael Whalen" To: "dojang digest" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:56:19 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: kuk sool Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net < kuk sool won is heavily influenced by hapkido and chinese arts> This is why I love KSW. It's influenced by so many different arts. It's kinda like MA gumbo. kicking,punching,joint locks,throws,counterthrows,grappling,pressure points and you can't forget all the weapons and hyungs. It's no coincidence that when I work out w/ my hapkido, TSD , TKD, karate buddies that we have alot of stuff very similiar. michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Whalen" To: "dojang digest" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:02:40 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: jason Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jason, Not bad terminology for your first KSW lesson. Welcome to the KSW and KMA families. If you don't mind could you tell me who your instructor is and where you train? michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:08:27 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Time will tell Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce writes, <<>> If that's a politically correct way of saying that someone deserves to get their azz whipped over what happened...then I am in full agreement. Then again, even if you're not saying that...I still say someone deserves to get their azz whipped. And I don't mean a "let's go outside and settle this like gentlemen" azz whipping. I'm talking about a good old fashioned "someone needs to call 911 because I don't think he's gonna make it" azz whipping. It's one thing to disagree, and to take issue with another person's viewpoint (have I ever taken issue with you?...I can't recall). It's another thing to go screwing with someone's livelihood over something as petty as disagreements over martial arts or its associated personalities. For what it's worth, I was unemployed for a short time during 2002, and I understand all of the associated fears and anxieties that go along with losing a job. It's one thing to sit around and say "it's just a job", or "I am more than the sum of my career" when you are gainfully employed and the future appears to hold nothing but continued upward mobility. It's only when you lose that job do you realize how much of a vehicle it is toward building a sense of self-worth and identity. Then, of course, there's all the LITTLE stuff like making the mortgage and vehicle payments, buying groceries, etc. I've found that there's nothing that will shake you up more than taking a quick slide down Maslow's needs hierarchy. Y'know...on Monday you're working on the self-actualization end of the spectrum ("Gee, do I really want to work in finance for the rest of my life?"), and on Wednesday afternoon you're all of a sudden concerned with the stuff you took for granted ("Gee, I'd do just about anything at this point in order to keep the kids fed, and a roof over our heads?"). I won't go into the full details of my situation, but suffice it to say that I pretty much brought it upon myself, I actually saw it coming, and I didn't do anything to address the problem until I had pink slip in hand. Lesson learned...upward and onward. I can't quite imagine how I would react in your situation. My family has been a victim of crime twice in my lifetime (and I classify what happened to you as nothing short of criminal). The first time was when I was 16 years old, and some crackhead who just happened to be in town for a funeral randomly picked our house for a quick burglary. It wasn't so bad that all he took was a VCR and some rare coins. What really hurt was the fact that he set the place on fire in order to cover his tracks. Again, the Maslow Mambo ain't a fun dance...one day you're an invincible sophomore on top of the world, and the next day you're accepting hand outs to replace your wardrobe. The second event happened about 18 months ago when another pillar of society somehow got hold of our bank information, and began making large debit purchases over the phone. Luckily, my bank halted the transactions, and all I lost was $16 from a pizza they ordered for delivery (which she was recently ordered to pay back at trial). The painful part of all this (and I can only speak for myself, but I assume it's true for you) is the extreme sense of helplessness coupled with anger. If someone wants to hurt me...fine, let's get in the sandbox and see how bad you want it, Ginger. It's another thing to be hurt on an anonymous level without the opportunity to defend oneself, much less not having a "justifiable" outlet for one's anger and desire for retribution. You and I have not agreed on much of anything on this list since the day I came here. But that's fine and dandy...because if you and I agreed on everything then one of us would be unnecessary, and this list would probably be a little less entertaining for the folks in the peanut gallery (of which I am a card carrying member). Having said all of that, "pissed off and dismayed" does not do justice to how I feel about what happened to you. It was criminal, and I hope the person(s) involved pay for what they did. In my case, I ended up with a job that pays more, a job that is more challenging and interesting (back to that self-actualization thing), and a closer relationship with my wife (without whom I would not have made it). In the end, I got all of these great things in exchange for a little smudge on my resume'. I hope the same for you. Maybe in the end, this will be one of the more positive events in your life. If it can happen to me, it can happen to you. But I still say someone needs their azz whipped. Hey, if we find out who did it we'll just invite them out for drinks with Big Ken and watch the sparks fly ;) Craig "When I am Elected King, All Cowards Will Be Hunted Down and Castrated" Stovall --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Day of belt promotion Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:27:17 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When testing I always make sure I do not look at the others testing with me as it can be distracting and confusing. I keep my eyes on my own belt if there is a mirror and always keep my ears focused on the instructor giving the exam. Always remember that having fun is the best way to not let your nerves get the best of you. It can also help you not to become to self defeating when a minor mistake happens. Focus on what you do correctly. Hope this helps. Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "gerrald" To: Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Day of belt promotion > I am going to my next belt promotion to night. I let my nerves get the > best of me and I don't do a well as I should. Are there any suggestions > to what I could do too keep my focus on the task at hand. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:48:31 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hosting Master Hodder Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello DD Gang! I just wanted to let everyone know that I will be hosting Master Rich Hodder of the USKMAF here at my dojang on Saturday, April 19 for a promotional test of several of my Gup students and for a 3 - 4 hour seminar afterwards. If any of you will be in my part of West Virginia during that time I would like to invite you all to swing by and join us. There may be a couple of other notable persons within the KMA scene that may be in attendance as well but I'm afraid to say for sure until I get definite confirmation from them. COME JOIN US IF YOU CAN!! James Morgan, III Dan Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy Lewisburg, WV http://www.gtkda.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:05:12 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] MYDBTJ Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I thought the text for all serious Korean Martial Artists was Karate-Do Kyohan... Just kidding :D YITMA, Charlie Veuleman ===== ------------------------------------- L. Charles Veuleman Natchitoches Karate Institute 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 318-356-7727 http://www.bluewavekarate.com ------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:31:35 -0600 (CST) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Interpreting_Hyung?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Jeremy: "...... Perhaps I am looking too much for patterns similar to what we do today. Turtle Press has a video of the same name. Does anyone know if they demonstrate the forms from the book?....." I purchased both the book, itself, and the two video tapes. I think the short answer to your question is "yes". However, I am not sure that I totally agree with the manner in which the hyung were interpreted in the tape, or maybe I am just a bit disappointed at the level of performance. Then again, maybe there is a chance that the manner in which the hyung were taped could have been better. I'll leave that for others to form their own opinions. It certainly does help to have a video representation to bring the images on the book pages to life. Keith and I are working our way through the two-man hyung found in the WAE-GUEM chapter of the book and may even use a video camera to record what we have so far. The advantage will be to play our moves side-by-side with those of the Turtle Press vidoes and watch for similarities and differences. I HAVE noticed that the hyung performed on the Turtle Press videos seem to be much more "performance- oriented" rather than actually executing sword technique for accuracy and effectiveness. By this I mean that the individuals in the videos seem to be more playing to the audience than actually recording technically correct sword work. One other thing is that not ALL of the hyung in the MYTBTJ are reproduced in the videos. There are almost all of the sword hyung, I think, and most of the staff and spear hyung. Oh yes, and they DID do the single MT hand hyung in the book for those who are interested. I know people must get tired of me citing this hyung so often but I think it is important to remember that it relates directly to General Qi's work written in 1567 and as such carries greater provenence than most other hyung or kata found in modern KMA have. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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