Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:20:03 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #180 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. DD Picture (Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy) 2. Life changes (Dave Steffen) 3. Life Changes (SEXTONR003@hawaii.rr.com) 4. Life changes (TKD Kitten) 5. Re: DD Picture (Ray Terry) 6. Over-the-Counter OD (Yarchak, Mary Kay) 7. ASMKA and SWORDS (Kirk Koskella) 8. Are you sure??? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:17:57 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] DD Picture Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ok gang. I have been waiting and waiting for someone to fess up and say that they indeed DID get their film developed from Master West's seminar in March and got a decent picture of all of us in the DD. So, where's it at?? Did I miss it? It's just hard to believe that out of allllllllllllllllllllll of those camera flashes that NOONE got a good picture?? James Morgan Greenbrier Tae Kwon Do Academy Lewisburg, WV http://www.gtkda.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Dave Steffen Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:22:04 -0600 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Life changes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: DITTER66@aol.com > > Hello all, > I have just started TaeKwonDo at age 30 something and would like > some advice on meditation, I recently lost my husband to a drowning > accident so I have a lot of visual memories of him dyeing that keep > me up or break my concentration, I started TaeKwonDo to help me > deal with my life changes. Ouch... reading that hurt more than most of the side kicks I've eaten. Two points: first, TaeKwon-Do typically doesn't have a lot of meditation (although some instructors put it in), if by meditation you mean "transcendental meditation" (i.e. Zen stuff) or "internal development" (i.e. ki/chi development). Most of what I know about the subject, I've gained from my own studies of Zen, and from the past year or so of Sin-Moo Hapkido, which has some excellent meditation exercises. If that's what you're looking for, you might - emphasize _might_ - need to look for a different style, or instructor, or at least be prepared to look for that on your own. (All the qualifications in this paragraph are because I don't know what your instructor teaches. For all I know, your TKD school does loads of the stuff! ;-) If this is what you're after, we can discuss meditation on this forum; there are probably a lot of people here who know more about it than I do. ;-) Secondly, the internal meditations may not be what you really need. Even halfway decent TKD will give you tremendous focus and concentration while working out. I've found the (mental) intensity of a good, hard TKD workout to be invaluable when dealing with difficult emotional issues. Two things to watch out for: when I'm upset, I tend to skimp on warmups, or to stretch too hard. Don't do that; the last thing you need right now is a torn hamstring. Also, I've found that when lifting weights, I need to be careful when I'm upset. I went through some emotional stuff two years back, and was lifting a lot at the time; there were a couple of times that I probably had a dangerous amount of weight on the bar. Relying on anger and adrenalin to lift is effective, but not recommended! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Steffen Wave after wave will flow with the tide Dept. of Physics And bury the world as it does Colorado State University Tide after tide will flow and recede steffend@lamar.colostate.edu Leaving life to go on as it was... - Peart / RUSH "The reason that our people suffer in this way.... is that our ancestors failed to rule wisely". -General Choi, Hong Hi --__--__-- Message: 3 From: To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:53:48 -1000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Life Changes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mary, you're first step is therapy to help you deal with your loss, then meditation. <> Randall Sexton www.LaughingHara.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:57:42 -0700 From: TKD Kitten To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Life changes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Mary Let me start by saying that I am very sorry about the loss of your husband. Soon, I hope you are able to look ahead with optimism, rather than behind with grief. I am also a 30-something that started TKD to relieve the stress of somewhat difficult circumstances. TKD has given me a greater feeling of peace from my personal conflicts, and has given me back some of the confidence that I had lost. As far as concentration goes, I think it just takes practice to be able to focus properly. Don't give up, it does take time. I'll be thinking of you Kim TKD Kitten....aspiring to be a Tiger Vancouver, B.C., Canada [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] DD Picture To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Ok gang. I have been waiting and waiting for someone to fess up and say > that they indeed DID get their film developed from Master West's seminar in > March and got a decent picture of all of us in the DD. So, where's it at?? > Did I miss it? > It's just hard to believe that out of allllllllllllllllllllll of those > camera flashes that NOONE got a good picture?? One of Master Mac's students came up with one. It isn't very good, but it is all I've seen thus far. Anyone else??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Yarchak, Mary Kay" To: 'Dojang Digest' Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:24 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Over-the-Counter OD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net All, We all get our shares of injuries and aches in MA and no one likes to take time away from training, so, when I read this today and thought I'd share it. Liver transplants are generally no fun... Over-the-counter overdose Mixing popular painkillers can give you too much of a good thing, with toxic results Tuesday, April 22, 2003 By Sandra G. Boodman, The Washington Post If anyone knows about the dangers posed by medicines, it's pharmacist Michael R. Cohen, president of the Institute for Safe Medication Practices, a nonprofit group that publishes an influential newsletter about medication errors. So imagine Cohen's dismay when he realized that he had made a common, and potentially lethal, mistake using an over-the-counter painkiller to treat a recent shoulder injury. Instead of taking one or two tablets of Tylenol Arthritis Pain every eight hours, as directed on the package, Cohen took two tablets every four hours, the standard dosing for regular Tylenol. As a result, he ingested about six grams of the active ingredient, acetaminophen, for several days, 20 percent more than the dose considered to be safe and an amount that placed him at elevated risk of potentially fatal liver damage. Luckily Cohen suffered no ill effects from his accidental overdose. He mentioned what he had done to two colleagues, a registered nurse who is his deputy at the medication safety group and a physician who at the time was serving with Cohen on an expert advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration that was considering the safety of nonprescription painkillers. Both told him they had made the same mistake. "If we could do this," Cohen mused, "just imagine how many consumers do the same thing." By all accounts, many are Over the limit A survey released recently by the National Consumers League found that 44 percent of nearly 4,300 adults questioned said they had knowingly exceeded the recommended dose of over-the-counter pain relievers; only 16 percent said they had read the label completely. A survey conducted in 2001 by the National Council on Patient Information and Education found that 30 percent took the drugs longer than the label recommended, while 25 percent had trouble reading or understanding drug labels. These findings alarm consumer groups and health officials who note that most of the 175 million Americans who take over-the-counter painkillers every year are unaware of their potential hazards. As a result, experts say, many people misuse these enormously popular drugs, which are used to treat a multitude of ailments including headaches, arthritis, viruses and muscle pain. Health officials emphasize that the quintet of over-the-counter pain relievers -- aspirin, acetaminophen (Tylenol), ibuprofen (Advil), naproxen (Aleve) and ketaprofen (Orudis) -- are safe if used as directed. The problem is that many Americans take the aggressively marketed pills cavalierly, "popping these things like they're M&Ms," in the words of Texas liver specialist William M. Lee. Related story How acetaminophen can cause liver failure. Another problem, experts say, is that warning labels are inadequate or nearly impossible to read because of the small type. Few consumers know, for example, that each OTC painkiller has a maximum daily dose the FDA considers to be safe, that it can be dangerous to take more than one drug containing the same active ingredient simultaneously, or that it can be harmful to take a drug for longer than seven to 10 days without a physician's explicit instructions. Each year, federal health officials say, an estimated 160,000 Americans end up in hospital emergency rooms and about 16,000 die from complications related to the use of OTC painkillers. Many are caused by the side effects of medication. Indeed, Ed Krenzelok, director of the Pittsburgh Poison Center at Children's Hospital, said the No. 1 killer logged every year at poison centers across the country is acetaminophen, many involving unintended overdoses in adults. Some health officials say that the actual number of injuries and deaths is considerably higher because many cases go unrecognized or unreported. "I think there is a lot of misunderstanding by consumers who think that because a drug is over-the-counter, it can't hurt you," said John Jenkins, director of the Office of New Drug Applications at the FDA, which is considering stronger warning labels on acetaminophen and other painkillers, as recommended by the advisory committee. "There is no drug that's totally safe. Over-the-counter painkillers provide a real benefit to consumers as long as they don't exceed the recommended dose and take them according to directions." It starts with A The most widely used pain reliever is acetaminophen, or Tylenol, which has prompted renewed concern because of recent findings about liver damage from unintentional overdose. It's taken by 100 million Americans annually. Mixing medications like these could hurt a patient because of the risk of liver damage from too much acetaminophen or from mixing it with ibuprofen, the active ingredient in Advil. Officials at McNeil Consumer and Specialty Pharmaceuticals, which makes Tylenol as well as ibuprofen and aspirin, declined to be interviewed for this story. "We are working on labeling changes but there are no specifics at this time," a spokeswoman said. McNeil has recently added the warning that "Acetaminophen may cause liver damage" to the labels of some Tylenol products as part of the warning about heavy alcohol use that all OTC painkillers are required to carry. But testimony at recent FDA hearing, as well as scientific studies, revealed that heavy drinking is not the only cause of acetaminophen-related liver damage. McNeil officials testified that Tylenol and other forms of acetaminophen are safe if used as directed. They noted that about 100 deaths from accidental acetamin-ophen overdose are reported annually. But taking the drug as directed presents a formidable challenge to consumers, said Sarah Erush, director of drug information at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania. Few consumers even know that there is such a thing as a recommended maximum safe dose of acetaminophen or other painkillers: That fact doesn't appear on the label or elsewhere. Nor is it obvious that acetaminophen is an active ingredient in more than 400 prescription and over-the-counter drugs including Percocet, Excedrin PM or Vicks Nyquil. Most sinus or cough and cold combination products that contain a pain reliever don't list acetaminophen prominently or on the front of the package, increasing the likelihood that consumers will inadvertently exceed the maximum dose. Take Maximum Strength Thera-Flu, for example. The package warns that no more than four packets of the medicine, each of which contains 1,000 milligrams of acetaminophen, should be taken in a 24-hour period. A consumer who took four doses would ingest 4,000 milligrams, or four grams, of acetaminophen, the recommended daily maximum. But nowhere on the package is there a recommendation that people should eschew other products containing acetamin-ophen, such as Tylenol, to avoid an accidental overdose. "To know how much Tylenol to take safely, you have to assume that consumers can translate tablets into grams," said Erush. "The fact is that most people don't even know that Tylenol and acetaminophen are the same thing." Furthermore most consumers don't know that different forms of Tylenol contain different amounts of acetaminophen: 325 milligrams per capsule in Tylenol, 500 milligrams in Extra Strength Tylenol and 650 milligrams in Tylenol Arthritis. "And it's sort of human nature to think that if two Tylenol are good, three are better," Erush observed. "Unfortunately, we see people who took six or eight grams of Tylenol over three days who show up in our ER in complete liver failure." The advent of warning labels Tylenol was introduced in 1955, followed by the first of a class of drugs known as nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs): ibuprofen (Advil) in 1984, naproxen sodium (Aleve) a decade later and ketaprofen (Orudis) in 1996. Although scientists had known for two decades about the hazardous combination of alcohol and Tylenol, warning labels did not appear on the package until after a jury in U.S. District Court ordered McNeil to pay nearly $9 million to a 39-year-old Springfield, Va., man who had lost his liver. At a trial in 1994, Antonio Benedi, a former scheduler for President George H.W. Bush, claimed his liver was destroyed after he took four grams of Tylenol -- eight extra-strength tablets -- for three days during a bout of flu in 1993. Benedi said he regularly drank about three glasses of wine with dinner. A pathology report written at the time of his lifesaving liver transplant said his liver showed no signs of alcoholic liver damage and stated that his liver had been destroyed by Tylenol. Lawyers for McNeil, who unsuccessfully appealed the verdict, argued that Benedi's liver had been damaged by something other than the drug. A day after the verdict, the FDA announced that all over-the-counter painkillers would carry a warning advising consumers to consult their doctors if they drink three or more drinks per day, a labeling change the agency said had been approved the previous year. Among public health officials, the most influential recent study of acetaminophen-related liver failure appeared in the December 2002 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine. Its results were presented earlier and prompted the FDA meeting last fall. The study, headed by William Lee, a professor of internal medicine at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, analyzed more than 300 cases of acute liver failure reported by 17 liver transplant centers around the country. Lee and his colleagues found that 39 percent of these cases, a much larger number than health officials expected, were caused by unintentional overdoses of acetaminophen, rather than by hepatitis or unusual reactions to other drugs. Equally surprising was the fact that three-quarters of the victims were women, raising the possibility that women are more sensitive to acetaminophen. "I think all of us were somewhat taken aback that liver transplant centers were seeing so many cases of an unintentional nature," said the FDA's Jenkins. "It was a very useful study." --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Kirk Koskella" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:37:30 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] ASMKA and SWORDS Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Bruce: I was acting as General Counsel for a Mining Company in Edmonton Alberta at the time. Civil enforcement is the only way to assure the bonds are not resold. I was amore than a little out of my element at the time. I have been with Master Han since the age of 14. We did trial of Billy Jack together. I am the kid who tosses the apple to Billy. Master Han has given me my value system since my own father was not available. I withdrew from all major association representations until the matters had been resolved so that I would not reflect badly on Master Han, however, I maintained my duties. Master Friskee and Master Cruz have both been 6th Dans in the Santa Monica Headquarters with Master Han for almost 2 years now. 1.) Are the swords under discussion manufactured in Korea? Yes. With the exception of 1 sword, all are manufactured in Korea. The exception is manufactured in Japan. 2.) Can you tell us a bit about the quality and quality control? Each live blade is hand pounded and folded under traditionally accepted standards. The minimum time frame to receive a blade is approximately 7 months. The process mandates specific minimum standards of quality and formal registration of each blade. Blades without owners are not permitted to be constructed by our manufacturer. These are not the Paul Chen or similar blades from China. The artisans sign and date each blade made. 3.) Can you tell us a bit about the performance? Performance is divided into categories. Certain Blades are or demonstration purposes only. The Aido practitioner has a blade which is inexpensive and will not cut more than paper products. It is not sharpened but has a slight edge. On the other hand, the Practive Blade is an alluminum alloy. It is a hollow blade which is made specifically for contact with another similar blade. These are not the Asian World types of blades. They do get chewed up, however, they do not break. Live Blades are divided into Cutting styles such as the Presentation Blade (for reeds or straw bundles), Instructor Blade for Bamboo and stronger wood products, including live Bamboo, and Combat Blades. Master's Blade - Combat Blades that will cut all previously mentioned and may be used in combat if necessary. They are are "extremely" sharp. These should not be handled by the novice. Video Taped Instructions on care and cleaning are included with each blade as well as the do's and don'ts. The names of the styles of blades are americanized for effect. 4.) Can you tell us what options are available regarding construction and fittings? I will endeavor to have the site information upgraded to reflect fittings. If you follow this particular link; http://www.song-moo-kwan.us/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=204&1=224&2=-1&6=1 you will note some of the sword sets we offer. I apologize as we have kept this site for sales only. It will reflect some of the options available under the custom sword category. These swords are meant to reflect certain styles and personalities. In much the same way any weapon is drawn to the owner, you will have at least a dozen discussions with our staff to determine the appropriate blade you the host. 5.) Can you tell us something about the purchase and import process? In the United States we do not have the ability to determine a "License Holder" who is able to acquire a blade. Our blades are therefore initially registerd to myself as a Master Dojang to the WHGF and it is my personal responsibility to determine the worthiness of bestowing a blade on a particular person seeking to acquire one. Practicing the martial arts is not the only criteria. I have therefore only sold blades previously to ASMKA Association Masters and Ranking Black belts of 3rd Dan and higher who have completed certain training requirements. Sale of Live Blades to others is a new area. I therefore would need to have a comfort level to sell combat blades and to some degree. Thank you for the questions. As you may see, these blades are offered on one or two particular Samurang sites in Korea. There is no difference in quality. Our pricing is distinctive. We are Song Moo Kwan affiliates. The Korea Song Moo Association has assisted us in acquiring (song moo or "pine tree") wraps and guards. Shipping is fully insured, licensed and comes with original transport casings which may be locked and your credential related to the blade will also be included. Your classification may be as a Collector/Novice, Professional, License Holder or Instructor. We will find out once you commence discussions with Mr. Magby. Thank you for the forum. Kirk I. Koskella _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Are you sure??? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > ... Master Friskee and Master Cruz have both been 6th Dans in the Santa > Monica Headquarters with Master Han for almost 2 years now. Are we talking about the same Bong Soo Han here...??? See below. Ray From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:11:52 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] GM Bong Soo Han Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Regarding Dakins most recent post..I was recently speaking to GM Han, and he related to me that he has never promoted anyone to a rank above 5th dan, but yet I hear of people quite regularly that claim to be 7th or 8th dan GMs under him.....Odd........... J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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