Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 03:01:50 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #216 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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I can't find a Dojang (ShipsofChittim@aol.com) 2. Re: CDK and Japanese (Kent Frazier) 3. From Another Group....good book (Jye nigma) 4. Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #215 -msg 1 :Term for Defender and Attacker in Korean (Raymond Navarro) 5. Bruce and WI seminar (J.R. West) 6. SK SF Forces (Julian Lim) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: ShipsofChittim@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 05:43:07 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] I can't find a Dojang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello, I am 25yrs. old and I have competed in Folk/Colligate and Greco-Roman wrestling in both High school and College and I have been an athletic person for sometime now. I have immensely wanted to begin a study of the Korean martial arts (and a bit of the language perhaps), preferably Hapkido or Yudo and possibly Tae Kwon Do. Unfortunately I can find no such organization that teaches such things near my hometown (Only Karate). I was wondering if anyone here might be able to offer some information as to any groups or schools in the central California area that they may know of. I live in Merced County, though I do have the means and, I think the time, to travel anywhere in the county. Possibly Fresno or Modesto, if it's worth my wild. Thanks for the help. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 05:20:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Frazier To: Digest Dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: CDK and Japanese Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net No offense at all taken, Ray. I didn't mean to imply that the entire Chung Do Kwan uses Japanese terms, just that our group does (Chung Do Kwan through the lineage of Jhoon Rhee as taught to Atlee Chittim, for those of you who don't know.) Rereading the way I phrased it, I see now that I did indeed imply that it was the entire Chung Do Kwan. Sorry if there was any confusion. This is further proof of that fuzzy mind I was talking about. Thanks for the heads up for everyone Ray, its good to keep info correct and in order. Sincerely Kent Original Message: ------------------- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] CDK and Japanese Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > ... I am perhaps speaking from a stilted > viewpoint here, as our Chung Do Kwan is very Japanese in > nature, we have even gone so far as to continue to use many > of the Japanese terms. Lee Won Kuk may have even been > looked upon badly as a Japanese sympathizer, though I have > read conflicting stories about much of that period. But remember that in general CDK does not use Japanese terms or traditions (save perhaps the poomse). True your particular CDK group does, but you may? be alone in that. Dr. Kimm was very close to Gm Lee and could probably shed more light on this topic. No disrespect intended, mind you. Just an honest observation. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] From Another Group....good book Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Back on the subject of books, I think Sensei Nick Lowry has penned a fine tome. Aikido: Principles of Kata & Randori. I'm not in the Fugakukai organization, but I think his book would rank as a must-have for folks who study, or have studied, in that system. Falls, The Walk, the 8 Releases, the Basic 17 & the Big Ten are all illustrated with line drawings & directional arrows. An interesting book for anyone in Tomiki-derived systems, or the larger aiki- & ju-related family. Jeff S. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 08:37:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Navarro To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #215 -msg 1 :Term for Defender and Attacker in Korean Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Mark, Todd and all that read this thread, be blessed. I learned that Tori (receiver) and Uke (attacker) are based on the basic terms Defense or Maki and Attack or Kongyok so this would be MakiSa for defender and kongyokSa for attacker or they can be Makiui for when you are the defender and kongyokui when you say I am the Attacker. HAP Ramon Navarro HapKiDo SabomNim Song Moo Kwan hapKiDo Panama City Panama 1. Re: Breaking of balance (Mark M. Smith) >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:35:47 -0400 >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From: "Mark M. Smith" >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Breaking of balance >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Todd: > >Thanks for the Korean equivalents. I have another related question. In >Judo it is common to refer to the Tori (receiver) and Uke (attacker) when >practicing techniques. Are there Korean equivalent terms? If so what are >they? > >At 08:23 AM 5/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: >>The Korean term for Breaking the opponents balence -Munoturiki. >> >>Joong Shim Japki - to keep your balence. >> >>Hope this helps >>Master >>Todd Miller >>Korea Jungki Hapkido & Guhapdo Assc. > >Respectfully, >Mark M. Smith >Merrimack, NH > _____________________________________________________________ Get a web-based email for life now ---> http://mail.hapkidokr.org _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 15:45:46 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Bruce and WI seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce: I'm sure all the information that is passed out on Friday will be of the oral type. We will arrive sometime Friday morning after the long drive from deepest, darkest Mississippi, and it will take at least a couple of hours of sleep to get everybody back to as normal as possible, considering who we are dealing with. As soon as the seminar is over on Saturday, and we get a good meal under our belts, we will climb back in the "stealth van" and head south, so a Sunday session is sort of out of the question, especially with the number of physicians among our group that are expected to show up for work on Monday morning. There is a rumor that Dr. Audrey Tsao will now be part of our entourage, and her expertise will be very useful in re-assembling Mr. Pryga after his test. I hope you and Mr. New get to partake of the hospitality at the hotel on Friday night...Best wishes to all......J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Lim To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] SK SF Forces Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Interesting intel on South Korea's army SF forces... South Korea's 707th Special Missions Battalion The 707th Special Missions Battalion, part of the Republic of Korea's Army Special Warfare Command (ROKA SOCOM), is South Korea's primary counter terrorist and quick reaction force. The unit's soldiers – distinguished by their black berets – are tasked with conducting urban counter terrorist missions, and constitute the Army's quick-reaction force for emergencies. During wartime they perform clandestine special-warfare assignments. This elite force of operators was formed after the Munich Olympic disaster in 1972. The South Korean government realized the need to raise a specially trained unit to handle the many threats facing it. These threats ranged from North Korean special operations forces conducting operations to destabilize the government to foreign terrorist organizations operating on Korean soil. In 1982 the South Korean government tasked the battalion with providing a counter terrorist response to any potential terrorist incident occurring during the upcoming 1988 Seoul Summer Olympics. The unit immediately began a program to rapidly expand it strength and operational capabilities, almost tripling in size. The 707th provided security for VIPs and for key facilities during the 1986 Asian Games and during the 1988 Olympics. At both events terrorist attacks were considered to be a real danger. In addition, the unit has reportedly seen extensive action against North Korean infiltraters, and according to several unconfirmed reports, they have also conducted multiple operations on the North Korean mainland. The Songham City based unit is currently composed of approximately 300 operational personnel who are split into six companies; two of which are actually tasked with conducting counter terrorist missions. Each of the counter terrorist teams is organized around four 14-man operations teams. Support and demolitions teams also exist to augment the main teams. It is also reported that the 707th maintains a group of female operators for use in situations where a woman would not be suspected of posing a risk, such as an aircraft hijacking where food and medicine might be allowed to be taken on board. A 707th SMB operator carefully scans his area of responsibility during an aircraft takedown exercise. Prospective candidates for the battalion are only drawn from the ranks of qualified special forces personnel. Special Forces operator training and selection lasts for a full year, and includes six months of basic infantry combat training, with an additional six months of special warfare training and parachute training. During the special warfare portion of their training are provided instruction in basic parachute techniques, rappelling and mountain warfare, martial arts, fire arms instruction, and demolitions. Korean special forces personnel are well known for their toughness, and 707th SMB personnel are reportedly even tougher. Throughout their training physical fitness is stressed and students are driven hard by their instructors. Various reports have stated that members frequently perform daily calisthenics in the snow and subzero temperatures, and swim in freezing lakes without any thermal protection. Those special forces personnel wishing to volunteer for service in the unit must first pass an extensive background check and endure a ten day selection process that eliminates approximately 90% of the applicants. Counter-terrorist training for the 707th is intensive, and once an operator is accepted into the unit he will receive additional instruction in combat shooting, breaching, assault tactics, SCUBA diving, and various other skills. A 707th SMB sniper takes aim from a helicopter with his HK PSG-1 sniper rifle.The battalion's training facility, which is reportedly one of the finest in the world, has an extensive network of range facilities allowing for the development of CQB skills in the unit's operators. It also reportedly contains a complete mockup of a 747 airliner, allowing operators the opportunity to conduct live fire training exercises, and hone their aircraft takedown skills. In addition to working with other Korean special operations forces and special Korean counter terrorist police units, such as the Korean National Police Agency's SWAT team, the 707th maintains close ties with similar units from around the globe, including Singapore's STAR team, the Australian SASR's Tactical Assault Group (TAG), and Hong Kong's SDU, although the unit's closets ties are with the US Army's 1st Special Forces Group, and the 1st SFOD-D. The South Korean government lavishly funds the battalion, and as a result they use a wide variety of foreign and domestically produced weapons. Pistols include modified versions of the US produced Colt .45 and the Daewoo 9mm. The HK MP-5 is now used as the primary submachine gun for assaults. Both the Daewoo K1 and K2 assault rifles are used, albeit modified for assaults with the addition of forward pistol grips and in some cases low-light vision devices. For rearguards a Benelli Super-90 shotgun with pistol grips is used. For light sniping the HK PSG-1 and M-24 7.62mm rifles have been used, heavier sniping needs are cause for the RAI .50 caliber weapon to be broken out. When heavier firepower is needed the unit has M-203 40mm grenade launchers, M-60E3 and K3 Beltfed 7.62mm machine guns at its disposal. The unit has also deployed Short Brothers Javelin man-portable SAMs as a defense against low level aircraft. Plan targets Pyongyang's 'commandos' Richard Halloran THE WASHINGTON TIMES HONOLULU A revised U.S.-South Korean operational plan for war against North Korea has given a much higher priority than earlier versions to defeating North Korea's special-operations forces, or commandos. Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said the United States is engaged in "prudent planning" for "all sorts of contingencies." Military officers confirmed that North Korea's commandos were among the targets to which Gen. Myers referred. Intelligence reports say North Korea has 100,000 to 120,000 highly trained special-operations forces, up from 70,000 a few years ago. They are organized into 23 brigades and 18 smaller independent battalions. In the event of war, the North Korean special-operations mission would be to open a "second front" behind South Korean and U.S. forces below the 2.5-mile-wide demilitarized zone (DMZ) that divides the peninsula, according to U.S. intelligence, a considerable amount of which has been declassified. Their operations would include cutting communication lines, assaulting command posts, assassinating senior South Korean and American officers, and kidnapping South Korean political leaders. The special forces are expected to infiltrate South Korea by sea, land and air. Because 86 percent of South Korea's border is coastline sprinkled with hundreds of rocky islets, it would be conducive to infiltration by North Korean mini-submarines, high-speed boats and air-cushioned amphibious craft. They also would try to come through an estimated 20 tunnels dug under the DMZ in the past 30 years and over land through the sparsely populated and mountainous reaches of eastern Korea, military authorities say. They say the North Koreans would parachute into South Korea from old Russian transport planes flying low to challenge radar. In response, Operations Plan 5027-02 (02 refers to the year) calls for several types of counterstrikes: assaulting North Korean special-operations bases before those bases' forces infiltrate South Korea, including attacks by U.S. and South Korean commandos; and sinking the North Korean ships as they came down the coast before they could land commandos. The plan also calls for added steps to protect U.S. and South Korean bases. Late last year, a team from the U.S. 353rd Special Operations Group left its home base in Okinawa, a Japanese island about 550 miles southeast of South Korea's southern coast, to train with counterparts in South Korea's Special Warfare Command. It was the first time that such joint training had taken place, according to a report by the 353rd Special Operations Group. Intelligence officers, operational planners and flight crews went over aircraft configurations, flight routes, refueling methods and ground maneuvers. South Korea's Special Warfare Command "wants to make sure that there are no misunderstandings between the air crews and jumpers," said South Korean Maj. Bae Gyung-guen. The United States knows much about operating behind the lines in North Korea as a result of extensive, if little known, operations such as one called White Tiger there during the 1950-1953 Korean War. Volumes of after-action reports and a few memoirs are the basis of this intelligence. About the same time the 353rd Special Operations Group was in South Korea, senior officers at the U.S. air base in Osan, about 40 miles south of Seoul, were quoted in the base newspaper as saying they worried most "about enemy special forces taking out the base." They figured it would take 1,000 security troops to defend the base's 6-mile perimeter, but they had only 400. They responded by organizing the base's cooks, post office clerks and 500 other supposedly noncombat airmen into a reserve to augment the security unit. Operations Plan 5027 is revised every two years jointly by South Korean and American officers. It provides the fundamental strategy for defending South Korea and details the positions of almost all targets in North Korea. It further assigns U.S. and South Korean units and weapons to attack them. Plan 5027-98 includes provisions for a pre-emptive attack on North Korea in which targets are assigned and the forces need only to receive the order to go. The North Koreans are believed to know the general outline of plan 5027. Many view it as a factor in North Korea's latest threats and its desire for a nonaggression pact with the United States. Copyright 2003 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719.866.4632 FAX 719.866.4642 ustugold@mailsnare.net www.ustu.org Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest