>To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #235 - 16 msgs >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:37:01 -0700 > >Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to > the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." > > ><<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> > >Serving the Internet since June 1994. >Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > >The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. >1400 members. > >See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine >for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com > >Pil Seung! > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Taeguk I Chang question (John-Lewis Lewis) > 2. Korean martial art website (Andrew Pratt) > 3. RE: TKD uniforms (Farral, Kim) > 4. Re: GM SEO, In Sun (Victor Cushing) > 5. Alain Burrese video (Victor Cushing) > 6. Tang Soo Do Founder (Charles Richards) > 7. Re: HKD for kids (J T) > 8. Re: TKD Uniforms (Rulivin4hym@aol.com) > 9. Re: trim and nike (ChunjiDo@aol.com) > 10. Re: alain burrese hkd video (ChunjiDo@aol.com) > 11. Broken glass technique (Burdick, Dakin R) > 12. Re: Re: GM SEO, In Sun (Ray Terry) > 13. RE: Kwan (Jason E. Thomas (Y!)) > 14. Only 2 months to go...... (Braeswood Martial Arts) > 15. Re: Bruce: We Have Met the Enemy and They are US! (Jeremy Anderson) > 16. Re: Only 2 months to go...... (Ray Terry) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "John-Lewis Lewis" >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 06:46:31 +0000 >Subject: [The_Dojang] Taeguk I Chang question >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Hi, > >In the Taeguk I Chang (2nd) poomse after the 2 olgul-makki in front, the >next moves are 1 montong-makki to the right side and 1 montong-makki to the >left side. > >Anybody knows why these 2 montong-makki? > > >Regards, > >John Lewis. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "Andrew Pratt" >To: "Dojang Digest" >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:51:34 +0900 >Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean martial art website >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >All (but particularly TKDists) > >Not sure if this has been posted before but have a look at the following >resource: > >www.mooto.com/eng/webzine/index.asp > >There is more, naturally, on the Korean side but the English side is quite >well done. > >Regards, > >Andrew > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: "Farral, Kim" >To: 'Dojang' >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 07:33:40 -0500 >Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: TKD uniforms >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Pil Seung! > > >Try East West Markets in Chicago...that is where I buy my uniforms...I buy >the traditional uniforms with black trim on the collar...they are good >uniforms and I prefer the 100% cotton...but they have the Poly-Blend as >well...you can also get the HEAVY duty cotton uniforms that are like >canvas... > > >Whomever answers the phone...tell them EXACTLY what you want for trim...you >will get it... > >here's the number: 1-800-448-5418...or...1-773-878-7711 > > > > Pil Seung! > >The One and Only > "Tink" > > Kim G. Farral > 5th Dan TKD > > >************************************ >If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the >delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message >may >contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may >not >copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message >and >kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this >message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by >nor attributable to ITT. >************************************ > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 08:58:56 -0400 >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From: Victor Cushing >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: GM SEO, In Sun >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >from Vic Cushing >This is the text of a letter I just received: > >" >Dear KIDO Member, > >Since our last communication, I hope all is going well with your schools >and organization. I also hope that you are healthy. Our HQ staff and myself >are doing well. Through this letter I wanted to share a bit of news with >you, my loyal member of World KIDO Federation. > >Last September, my student of 30 years and our Secretary General for Korea >KIDO, Master Kim, Jong Sung betrayed me through treacherous means and took >control of Korea KIDO Association which I have built for the last twenty >years. As you might be aware, Kim Jong Sung was my right hand man who I put >in position of power from the start of my presidency in 1983. After he took >control, he asked me to stay on as Chairman but not president of Korea KIDO >but I could no longer be associated with an organization that represented >such betrayal. With support of many former KIDO members, I started a new >organization, Han Min Jok Hapkido Association(All Korean Hapkido Asso.). >Our new organization received the official Korean government recognition >last month and with the support of many, we are on our way to building >unified Hapkido community in Korea. As for World KIDO Federation, this >world wide umbrella organization was a vision of mine and I formed the >organization 15 years ago and it is now well recognized and respected >around the world as well as in Korea. Therefore we will continue to use our >name of World KIDO Federation and our logo and all members will receive the >government recognition through the newly formed Han Min Jok Hapkido. > >I believe with my experience and dedication and with support from loyal >member like yourself, World KIDO Federation and Han Min Jok Hapkido >Association will enjoy tremendous growth in the near future. And we will be >in the forefront in leading the Korean Martial Arts community into a >unified body for continued growths for all of us. With all of us working >together, this will be possible. > >Lastly, I extend my invitation to you and your students to attend our Korea >Trip 2004. Because of our distance, I don't have much opportunity to see >you therefore during these Trips, it give us an unique opportunity to spend >time together which I enjoy tremendously. I hope to see you in Korea next >year and until then best wishes to you and your students. > > Sincerely, > >In Sun Seo >Grandmaster/President >World KIDO Federation/Han Min Jok Hapkido Association " > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:02:34 -0400 >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From: Victor Cushing >Subject: [The_Dojang] Alain Burrese video >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Buy it. > >This was a review I published on amazon .com when they were carrying his >tape: > >"Alain Burrese has put together a tape that allows the beginner and the >advanced student to both learn. He manages to present the basics of >selected Hapkido techniques applied in a variety of situations so that the >novice can appreciate the way basics can be strung together. The advanced >student can refresh and test his/her understanding of how techniques relate >to each other without just going down the checklist of techniques required >for each rank. Thus, this tape does the job for both types of students. As >a viewer and Hapkido instructor I know how hard it is to get this across in >a school setting. Alain is to be commended. If you are going to buy one >new tape to add to your collection or you are just starting a library for >your own study, buy this one!" > >Vic Cushing > > > > >From: ProteinNerd@aol.com > >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 03:23:32 EDT > >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido video review/opinion > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > >Hi Guys, > > > > I'm considering buying the Hapkido Hoshinsul video by Alain >Burrese > >from Paladin Press. I've been stung before with shoddy MA videos and was > >wondering if anyone has viewed the tape, and if they can give me an > >opinion as to if > >its worth the money. I've been studying KMA for almost 20 yrs now but am > >newish to hapkido (about 2.5yrs) and am looking for a realistic "street" > >approach > >to the various locks etc from HKD. I dont need a video on how to punch / >kick > >but how to apply the various locks etc in real situations, do you know if > >this > >video is the way to go? Any other suggestions? > > > >Thanks > >martin > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 06:07:14 -0700 (PDT) >From: Charles Richards >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Tang Soo Do Founder >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Exit Lurk Mode > >The founder of Tang Soo Do would be KJN Lee, Won Kuk >who founded Chung Do Kwan TSD circa 1944. >In 1945 the Moo Duk Kwan opened teaching Hwa Soo Do >Later Hwang Kee either Self-taught or learned the Shotokan Forms and >began teaching Tang Soo Do at the Moo Duk Kwan. >I think Hwang Kee began using Soo Bahk Do when folks split from the Moo >Duk Kwan to join the WTF (then KTA I believe). > >YOurs in Jung Do, > >Charles Richards >www.mojakwan.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To find the origins of Tang Soo Do one need look no further than > >any > > bio on Grandmaster Hwang Kee. He is undisputedly the founder of TSD >Moo Duk > > Kwan. Prior to being known as TSD, it was known as Soo Bahk Do. > >For Hwang Kee I believe the art he taught was first called Hwa Soo Do, >then he used Tang Soo Do and finally Soo Bahk Do. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). >http://calendar.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) >From: J T >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: HKD for kids >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Thank you all for your reply on this subject. I have >one HKD instructor who teaches adults or young adults >and no young kids. My other TKD/HKD/Kumdo GM does >teach kids, however he only teaches basic back fall >and break aways as far as the HKD aspect is concerned. > >The information that Mst. Hilland and Mst. Rowe >provided does help with the curriculm decisons I have >to make. Teaching young kids TKD is not a problem for >me, I am just not sure about the HKD and what aspects >to teach them at their age level. > >Jeremy > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). >http://calendar.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >From: Rulivin4hym@aol.com >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:25:54 EDT >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: TKD Uniforms >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >You can find the NIke uniform at CJMAS.COM for $95. The more economical >option might be to contact Academy of Karate - Martial Ats Supply and >purchase the >trim kit for $4.95 your local cleaners probably won't charge more than $10 >to >put on the trim for you. You could even buy the black fabric from Walmart >for about $5 and then go to the cleaners or maybe get one of the ladies at >the >store to sew it on for a nominal fee. Also note that Tiger Strike has a >good >price on trimmed uniforms about $30 but I think there is trim on the >sleeves. >Last resort would be to contact Century about a custom uniform trimmed the >way >you want it. Good Luck > >Michelle Ates > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >From: ChunjiDo@aol.com >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:25:50 EDT >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: trim and nike >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >"1: Where can I buy a traditional style uniform with black trim on the >lapel >ONLY, not on the cuffs or all the way around like a TSD uniform? I bought >one from Century 8 or so years ago, but they do not have that anymore. I >have tried BEST,Century,AWMA,KWON, and several others. > > >2: Where is the Nike TKD uniforms available in the U.S.? I own one but paid >some bucks for it as I had to buy it overseas. > >Thanks > >MS >" > > >hi MS, > >you might want to try choi brothers for the uniforms. they dont charge much >for trimming. i think its six bucks to trim the lapels. theyre at HREF="www.choibrothers.com"> >www.choibrothers.com. > >as for the nike uniforms, we sell them at the supply site listed in our >signature line. > >take care, >melinda > >Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy >www.cjmaa.com 1-573-673-2769 >Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply >www.cjmas.com 1-877-847-4072 > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >From: ChunjiDo@aol.com >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:30:18 EDT >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: alain burrese hkd video >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >" I'm considering buying the Hapkido Hoshinsul video by Alain Burrese >from Paladin Press. I've been stung before with shoddy MA videos and was >wondering if anyone has viewed the tape, and if they can give me an opinion >as to if >its worth the money." > >beware, martin! alain burrese videos are awful! (JUST KIDDING, ALAIN!) > >i own several of his videos and books and would recommend them to anyone. >alain is also a list member and could likely answer any questions you might >have >regarding his videos, books and anything therein. heck, you could even buy >them direct from him and have him put his doctorish signature on there ;) > >you might also want to check out his streetfighting essentials video set (2 >tapes). i believe his website is HREF="www.burrese.com">www.burrese.com for more information on his >stuff. > >buy them with confidence and enjoy, >melinda >Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy >www.cjmaa.com 1-573-673-2769 >Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply >www.cjmas.com 1-877-847-4072 > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 08:32:25 -0500 >From: "Burdick, Dakin R" >To: >Subject: [The_Dojang] Broken glass technique >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > >Does anyone know how this is done? > >Sure. Mu-Gil Lee, who founded t'aekwondo in our town, used to do the >same thing, except he would do a jump back spin kick (jump wheel kick) >and break some boards. The trick is: > >1. Use a hammer and make sure there's no big pieces that can stick >straight up. >2. Walk around barefoot a lot and have big callouses. > >I might also recommend disinfecting your foot with alcohol after the >demo is finished. And be sure to bring a vacuum cleaner to pick up all >the mess! > >Now, I'm not sure an attacker will be shoving you onto a pile of broken >glass anytime soon, but if you suspect it is coming, my recommendation >is to wear some good shoes until you get those callouses built up. > >There's an mpg online of a hapkido guy breaking bottles with hand, >sword, kick for a visit by Ji Han-Jae. I forget the hapkido guy's name. >My favorite part is when GM Ji checks to make sure the guy hasn't hurt >himself too badly, and then starts picking glass out of the carpet. > >Yours in the arts, > >Dakin >dakinburdick@yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >From: Ray Terry >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: GM SEO, In Sun >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 07:36:08 -0700 (PDT) >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > Dear KIDO Member, > > > > Since our last communication, I hope all is going well with your schools > > and organization. I also hope that you are healthy. Our HQ staff and >myself > > are doing well. Through this letter I wanted to share a bit of news with > > you, my loyal member of World KIDO Federation. > > ... > >But does anyone have any insight into what really happened here? Any >background info, details? > >I have some ideas, but wondering if anyone had more than ideas or >suspicions.?. > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >From: "Jason E. Thomas \(Y!\)" >To: >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Kwan >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:12:08 -0500 >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Here's a start, (but in no way comprehensive) > >1. Chung Do Kwan founded by Won Kyuk Lee in 1944 >2. Moo Duk Kwan founded by Hwang Kee in 1945 >3. Song Moo Kwan founded by Byung Jick Ro in 1946 >4. Yun Moo Kwan founded by Sang Sup Chun Founded in 1946 >5. Kwon Bop Bu/Chang Moo Kwan founded by Byung In Yoon in 1947 >6. Ji Do Kwan/Chi Do Kwan founded by Kwa-Byung Yun in 1953 >7. Oh Do Kwan founded by Nam Tae Hi and Choi Hong Hi in 1954 >8. Jung Do Kwan founded by Yong Woo Lee in 1954 >9. Han Moo Kwan founded by Kyo Yoon Lee in 1956 > >Regards, > >Jason > >www.natkd.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Helstrom, Carl [mailto:chelstrom@IDEXX.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:35 AM > > To: 'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net' > > Subject: [The_Dojang] Kwan > > > > Just exactly how many TKD Kwan and other (MA) Kwan's are there and >does > > anyone their English translation? For instance I am Chung Do Kwan: The > > Blue > > Wave > > _______________________________________________ > > The_Dojang mailing list, 1400 members > > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > >--__--__-- > >Message: 14 >From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" >To: "Dojang Digest" >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:35:39 -0500 >Subject: [The_Dojang] Only 2 months to go...... >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Hello Mr. Terry, I am hopeful you will post this shameful attempt at >promoting >a local event on your digest. >Thank you, Kat Kelly > >Hello to all DDers.... > >In as little as 2 months Grand Master Rudy Timmerman and Master Lorne >Keatley >will be in Houston Texas for the one day Kong Shin BupTM Seminar. >As of today all local martial arts school were mailed information regarding >this upcoming seminar. >Many of you have worked with Master Timmerman and Master Keatley in the >past >and know just how great this event will be. >BMAC is providing morning refreshments and an open forum to meet and work >with >some of the local and not so local masters who are attending this seminar. >BMAC is also providing the bricks for the soft break portion of the >seminar. >Registration forms can be found on our web site under "news & events". >Don't be left out!!!!! > >Kat Kelly >Braeswood Martial Arts >(713) 283-6000 fax: (713) 283-8400 >www.braeswoodmartialart.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 15 >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:15:13 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jeremy Anderson >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Bruce: We Have Met the Enemy and They are US! >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > <<<<<<< Is one mans' "colonization" another > > mans' "recruitment"? >>>>> > > > > I think this could be the case. I could probably relate stories on both > > sides of the coin here. > > > > <<<<<< > write this I am not sure which is more insidious--- the actual attempt > > to > > colonize another class or school or the free-floating fear that someone, > > anyone, everyone is trying to do that to me.>>>>>> > > > > So much for those qualities of wisdom, peacefulness, calmness, serenity, > > filial piety huh? I guess that maybe taken as a whole we are not much > > different from the rest of society. > >Wherever you go, human beings are still human beings, no matter what >pretentions they assume. If religious/spiritual leaders can fall face >first into their baser instincts, then why would martial artists be any >better? We are (hopefully) constantly working towards our ideals, but >that doesn't mean we can ever reach perfect embodiment of them. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). >http://calendar.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 16 >From: Ray Terry >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Only 2 months to go...... >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:03:56 -0700 (PDT) >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > In as little as 2 months Grand Master Rudy Timmerman and Master Lorne >Keatley > > will be in Houston Texas for the one day Kong Shin BupTM Seminar. > >A KSB Transcendental Meditation seminar? Sounds very relaxing... :) > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang >http://the-dojang.net > >It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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