Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:01:48 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #248 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Classroom_Stuff_?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 2. Dojang Cleanliness (Chris and Cindy) 3. Call for Papers -- Conference on Korean Buddhist Nuns (fwd) (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:52:46 -0500 (CDT) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Classroom_Stuff_?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Ray: "....The important issue here is determing what the student wants and needs. In many cases a drill sgt is exactly what they are looking for to help motivate them in their training. ...." Yes; exactly. I think the point that I was trying to make was that a highly structured, highly disciplined approach can be an acquired taste. I have, also, run into adults who want such an approach and thats OK. What I think I was addressing was the idea that MA classes must necessarily entail such an atmosphere. Except for students with rather obvious behavioral deficits, 6-9 y/o can be handled pretty easily using the sort of modification techniques that Michelle suggested such as "time out". (BTW: I am NOT a big fan of using calesthetics as punishment for infractions. Personally I think it sends the wrong message about the role conditioning plays in training.) IME I have found that most truely effective schools are run along the lines of "firm but cordial". I have also found that students are pretty accepting of being corrected for infractions but everyone has an expectation of fairness. For this reason I also shy away from supporting punishing the entire group for the repeated infraction of a particular individual. Peer group pressure can be used, but I don't support using it in a negative fashion. For example, I can imagine a situation where a person is repeatedly expressing the same incorrect behavior and the class is coached to make recommendations about what "Johnny" can do to modify his behavior as part of an impromtu class discussion. (This can be done in an inoffensive, non-threatening way by asking the class how they would help ("teach")someone with such&such a problem. Once again I am thinking of younger students as I write this. However, I personally have used the same approach with college age students on occasion. This sorta follows the idea that the fastest way to learn is to teach another. You know what I mean? I am not saying that there are not effective schools that may use a truely militant style of organization. Coming back to the idea of using a "boot camp" approach (with adults) I think your idea of providing this to individuals (if thats what they are looking for) can satisfy a need for some members of the student population. I would also encourage such folks to raise expectations for themselves (and coach them how to do this) if they feel they need tighter, more rigorous, training. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 13:40:08 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Chris and Cindy Subject: [The_Dojang] Dojang Cleanliness Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I believe this topic was brought up a while back and I must admit that I didn't pay too close attention to it since it wasn't much of an issue for me at the time. I'm searching for a way to have each student help clean (disinfect and deodorize) the mat after each class so the next class will have a clean environment to work in (I currently run 4 classes a night). My thought is to give each student a cloth with cleaner and wipe down a specific area of the mat once their class is over (actually I might end each class a couple minutes early in order to provide sufficient time for this). My problem is finding a cleaning product for this. I want it to disinfect and deodorize without leaving any residue or requiring time to dry...any thoughts. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Call for Papers -- Conference on Korean Buddhist Nuns (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: I am in the process of organizing a conference on Korean Buddhist nuns. I'd appreciate it if you could circulate this notice to someone who might be interested in. Eunsu *************************************************************** Call for Papers: A conference on Korean Buddhist nuns in Seoul, Korea May 20-22, 2004 Sponsored by the HanMaum Seonwon (One Mind Zen Center) Scholars interested in presenting a paper on any aspect of Korean = Buddhist nuns or more broadly nuns or more broadly on the practice of = Buddhism among Korean women are invited to e-mail their name, academic affiliation, and proposed topic (a title and a one paragraph abstract) to Eunsu Cho Department of Asian Languages and Cultures University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285 eunsucho@umich.edu (734) 647-2096 (office telephone); (734) 647-0157 (dept. fax) Proposals must be received by June 30. You will be informed of our decision by mid-July. The life and culture of Korean Buddhist nuns and laywomen deserves = serious attention from scholars to overcome the dearth of research on = the subject, not only in the Western world, but also in Korea. Serious = studies of the history of Chinese, Taiwanese, and Japanese Buddhist nuns = have already been undertaken, leaving the lack of material and = scholarship on Korea as a conspicuous lacuna. This conference thus aims = to break fresh ground and shine a light on this heretofore neglected = area of Korean history in the hopes of bringing attention from those in = the broader academic community already focusing on the topic of women = and religion. The final goal of this conference is to publish an edited = volume from the papers presented. Paper presenters will be provided with = airfare, lodging, meals, and a $1,000 honorarium. The conference will be = held for two and half days in Seoul. In addition, an optional two-day = tour to the south will be arranged for those who are interested in = visiting famous Buddhist nunneries. 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