Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:11:04 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #339 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Solitary_training_and_Networking?= (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 2. RE: flags (Michael Rowe) 3. RE: Inert vs. Active (Kirk Lawson) 4. USTU Dan Certification Program (Ray Terry) 5. Flag hanging (Rudy Timmerman) 6. Seminars and training (Rudy Timmerman) 7. Preception Effects due to Adrenaline Dump (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 8. Re: Preception Effects due to Adrenaline Dump (Ray Terry) 9. Re: Seminars and training (Ray Terry) 10. Re: Flag hanging (bmac2) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:33:41 -0500 (CDT) From: To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Solitary_training_and_Networking?= Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Fred: "....I wish we had some more diversity in Korean martial arts around my area, Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, and Hwarang Do. I would really like to learn an art like that because the depth and beadth of skills and knowledge is so great......" I know what you are saying. As much as I admire Dr. Kimm and all that he has contributed to the KMA there are not any HANMUDO resources here in the Chicago area. In fact, I have quite a drive to Ft Wayne or Harrison just to be able to Network with other USKMAF members. I mention this to underscore what I consider to be two very valuable points for folks who are serious about their KMA studies. 1.) When an opportunity comes to train with somebody who is respected in the field take it. I know I have said things about GM Ji in the past and there are others who have their views of many members of KMA leadership. But all the same, in time you will find that there is concsensus about who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't. You need to identify an opportunity--- even if its only once a year---- to get with somebody and experience quality information for what it is. People probably must get real tired of me tooting JR's and Rudy's events over and over again but you really have to experience these get-togethers. There is information, patiently explained. There is no politics but a lot of support. Many times, because there are multiple disciplines attending, you can actually get two or three spins on the same material! I don't think anyone here is independently wealthy and I know that everyone operates on a budget, but for the health of your own MA growth, you really need to identify at least one event a year where you can get together with other practitioners--- and take the kids. 2.) The other point I would stress is that you NOT go to the event I described above without an AGENDA. By this I mean identify some part of your KMA development that you want to know more about or want special coaching. For instance, in my case, despite my age I want to be able to execute a jump-spin-kick. When I went to the Internationale in Jackson one year I made sure that I signed up for Dennis' class on just this sort of kicking and got some important pointers on just this activity. Now, that doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy the rest of the experience. Its just that I made sure that I went home with information that I could focus on in my own training. (I do the same thing for the Hapkido club that I mentor. Students coming in are asked to identify specific skills THEY want to work on. Its amazing the things they want to polish that I would not have thought of. ) JR, Rudy, Jere, Dennis, and a host of others are willing to just pour out information and experience for the asking and often times do this on their own time! But you need to organize what it is that you want to know about before you get there and make sure that you get that need met before you go. One other thing and then I'll shut-up. I know that you hear a lot about how you can't learn KMA out of a book or from a video tape and thats pretty much true. However, if you don't have resources in your area, at least reading up on material and viewing material will coach you in what to ask questions about when you do get the chance to work with someone. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Rowe" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:09:44 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: flags Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When flying the Korean flag the Palgwe that represents heaven is always in the upper left (place of honor) just like the USA Star Field is always in the Upper left. Michael Rowe --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:15:00 -0500 From: Kirk Lawson Organization: Heapy Engineering To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ("THE$DOJA@SMTP {the_dojang@martialartsresource.net}") Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Inert vs. Active Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From: Ray Terry >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:19:57 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: [The_Dojang] Inert vs. Active >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >But, >and a big but, they will not cure arthritis or fix broken >bones or make the >average patient's boobs grow larger. > >At least in that latter case, I certainly hope not... :) It may if it includes Wild Yams. They contain an Estrogen-like compound that *can* simulat the effects of that hormone (depending on potency, age, and whether or not you hold your mouth right :P ). Peace favor your sword --- "In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or knowledge of their use." -Achille Marozzo, 1536 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] USTU Dan Certification Program Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: USTU Dan Certification Program 08-08-2003 We are pleased to announce that the USTU is instituting its own US Dan Certification Program, effective immediately. This means that, effectively immediately, you, as a club owner, can choose to receive a USTU Black Belt Certificate for your students, or a Kukkiwon Black Belt Certificate for your students. There is no conversion fee for those who already have a Kukkiwon Certificate. New applicants must be submitted only through a current Fourth Dan Black Belt. Please contact Ms. Dedra McClay at the USTU Dan Office for your new application for USTU Black Belt Certificates. Please continue to use your current promotion procedures for your Black Belt Tests. The processing time is the same for either Black Belt Certificate. US Taekwondo Union One Olympic Plaza Ste 104c Colorado Springs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:32:03 -0400 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Flag hanging Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charlie writes: > Before this thread got started, I had actually thought about rehanging > my flags, and adding the state of Louisiana flag somewhere in the > building, and get a USKA flag made. How would the line up be if they > were all four hung on the same wall? Hello Charlie: I am not sure if it is the same in the US, but here in Canada we are by law required to hang the Canadian flag on the right if it is hung with one other flag. If it is hung with more than one flag, it should be in the middle and/or higher. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:01:13 -0400 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Seminars and training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fred writes: > My gosh, I feel like > I've been wasting my time with the stuff I do. Last > year in November Master West held a seminar in Fort > Wayne, Indiana which I was not able to attend due to a > severly stiff neck. I need to make sure I get my > reserved spot at Mr. New's dojang for Master Wests' > seminar. Hello Fred. I urge you and all other DDers to make sure to reserve a spot for Master West's seminars. JRs seminars are good, because he makes sure that the learning environment is excellent. Without that camaraderie and zest to learn (by all present), even the most accomplished Instructors may not be able to teach students the materials they paid for and expect. A few months ago, one of my friends seemed a bit disappointed after I presented an NKMAA seminar. I asked him what the problems was, and his response was: "I have trained for thirty some years with some of the most highly respected Grand Masters and Masters around, and I feel cheated because I am learning details of stuff now I should have been taught years ago". I felt very sad about that. So, whenever the opportunity presents itself to learn in an environment that is suitable for learning at all ranks... go for it. The expertise of the Instructors is only part of the solution, an environment suitable for learning makes up the other part (often missing). A good environment makes students want to train harder and learn eagerly. That makes the average Instructor teach better, and it make a good Instructor do wonders for participants. We feed on the excitement! This trend is set by the Master in charge of the event, and JR has that down pat. It might sound as though the folks on this list are blatantly advertising for one another. In my case that is definitely not so. After having been bitten on the backside for supporting some of my friends, I only support those events that I KNOW are good. After fifty some years in the arts, I have a lot of friends or acquaintances in the martial arts; however, I only openly support very few. This is because my support is a direct reflection on me, and after some bad experiences, I am very careful about whom I endorse (despite friendships). Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:23:25 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Preception Effects due to Adrenaline Dump Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray, There was quite a bit of discussion on this (I'm pretty sure this was the one cited) and similar studies and what it means for self defense training on Self Defense Forums some time ago. All of it was very worthwhile reading. I believe it was on the Street Smarts Forum which Alain moderates. Be warned though, a lot of the folks over there don't have a very good opinion of eastern martial arts and artists though. But I guess I don't have a very good opinion of a lot of the stuff I see either. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Preception Effects due to Adrenaline Dump To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > ... Be warned though, a lot > of the folks over there don't have a very good opinion of eastern martial > arts and artists though. Me thinks that some frequently forget that people train for very different reasons. Not everyone is into sport arts (whether TKD or UFC) just as not everyone is into "I'll kill you before you kill me" arts. Yes? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Seminars and training To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Hello Fred. I urge you and all other DDers to make sure to reserve a > spot for Master West's seminars. JRs seminars are good, because he > makes sure that the learning environment is excellent. Without that > camaraderie and zest to learn (by all present), even the most > accomplished Instructors may not be able to teach students the > materials they paid for and expect. Speaking of... It looks like I'll be doing two sessions this September on empty hand defense against stick attack. i.e. you are empty handed and someone with a stick is trying to beat your butt, or even worse, your head. Therefore, for any of you driving to Jackson (I'm flying)... if you could bring any sticks (~22" to 30" in length) that you have... it would be much appreciated. Just be sure to mark them somehow so you can figure out which ones are yours at the end of the session. Thanks! Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:54:25 -0500 From: "bmac2" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Flag hanging Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Yes it is the same in the US as before I hung flags in my dojang I went to the Government site to see how to properly hang the flags. The perception of right is up to the hanger (i.e. from right to left from where it was hung, or from right to left as it is viewed). In our dojang we hang from walled perspective (TX, USA, Assoc. Korea, Canadian) TX and USA at same level and slightly higher then the rest. Sincerely, Kat ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Rudy Timmerman >I am not sure if it is the same in the US, but here in Canada we are by >law required to hang the Canadian flag on the right if it is hung with >one other flag. If it is hung with more than one flag, it should be in >the middle and/or higher. >Sincerely, Rudy >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 1400 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest