Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 03:01:51 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #340 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Flags (Dennis McHenry) 2. Hui-Son Choe, Hapkido master, guilty of manslaughter (Burdick, Dakin R) 3. RE: Ki Strikes, and JR's Knockout (Stovall, Craig) 4. Open Hapkido Seminar in Laughlin Nevada (Stephen Petermann) 5. MILP (Ray Terry) 6. Re: Open Hapkido Seminar in Laughlin Nevada (Ray Terry) 7. FLAGS (L. Veuleman) 8. Pressure points and talking funny (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:06:19 GMT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Dennis McHenry Subject: [The_Dojang] Flags Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net "I actually asked the little Korean lady (mom of my highschool buddy) in my hometown how I should hang it, and she said rotate just as you would the USA flag." Charlie, aren't you assuming she knows how to properly hang the American flag? Many people had asked me why I was hanging it backwords, not knowing that it was the proper way to fly it. Mac ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:09:20 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin R" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Hui-Son Choe, Hapkido master, guilty of manslaughter Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Folks, I hadn't seen this on the Digest (maybe it was), but I thought people should know. Hui-Son Choe, author of several hapkido books recently, pled guilty to first-degree manslaughter in 2001 and was sentenced to 9 years. If anyone knows more details about all of this, let us know, ok? The story is from: http://tkdtutor.com/04Students/BlackBelt.htm and reads: Example of What a Black Belt Should Not Be 6/7/2001, by Noel S. Brady, reporter for Eastside Journal in Washington State A martial arts master yesterday struck a plea bargain with prosecutors and admitted to wielding a samurai sword that caused the death of a Bellevue business man. Hui Son Choe, 40, pleaded guilty to first-degree manslaughter for the death of 37-year-old Ki Gol Lee, which occurred after an argument between the two men turned violent. King County Prosecutor's spokesman Dan Donohoe said the state will recommend a judge sentence Lee to 9 years in prison. A sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 29. At the time of the April 2000 melee, Choe lived in Spanaway and ran a martial arts school in Federal Way. A seventh-degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do, Choe also was well respected as a master and innovator of Hap Ki Do, a lesser-known martial art about which he's written a book. A Korean immigrant who helped other Koreans secure home and business loans, Lee showed up at Choe's dojo and confronted him in a parking lot there, prosecutors say. Witnesses told police the two began arguing, but a fight broke out after Choe rushed Lee with a drawn samurai sword. The fight ended after Lee sustained a 2 foot-long gash to his inner right thigh, severing his femoral artery. He died early the next morning at Harborview Medical Center. Detectives followed a trail of blood into Choe's school. Inside, they found a bloody samurai sword and blood-spattered clothing that matched witness' descriptions of the sword fighter. They later arrested Choe at his Spanaway home. Donohoe said it's still unclear what the two men where arguing about. Prosecutors originally charged Choe with second-degree murder, but that charge was reduced for lack of evidence, he said. ``We felt there were some proof problems to get murder-two,'' he said. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:42:48 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Ki Strikes, and JR's Knockout Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just curious...in regard to that video of Mr. West performing the knockout. Was that a strike to Stomach Point # 9 (ST-9)...a physical point alongside the neck, directly underneath the jawline and about mid-way between the chin and the ear? If so...yes, that can shut the blood pressure off like a light switch. I'm not in the medical profession, but I'm told that many doctors are well aware of that point and will use massage in that area under emergency situations where a patient is exhibiting hyper levels of blood pressure. Can any docs or nurses confirm that? Also, I hope that was a soft mat he fell on. Looks like he broke his fall with the back of his noggin'. Craig "Can't Figure Out What My Neck has to Do with My Stomach" Stovall CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entities named above. If this email was received in error or if read by a party which is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error or are unsure whether it contains confidential or privileged information, please immediately notify us by email or telephone. You are instructed to destroy any and all copies, electronic, paper or otherwise, which you may have of this communication if you are not the intended recipient. Receipt of this communication by any party shall not be deemed a waiver of any legal privilege of any type whatsoever as such privilege may relate to the sender. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Stephen Petermann" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:13:55 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Open Hapkido Seminar in Laughlin Nevada Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net All, Jang Mu Hapkido Association is holding its second annual seminar. It is being held Saturday September 13, 2003 at the Colorado Belle Hotel and Casino in Laughlin Nevada. All stylists, 13 years old and older are welcome. The seminar features Grandmaster Chong S. Kim. GM Kim , a student of Yong Sul Choi, is the recipient of the 2001 Black Belt Hall of Fame "Instructor of the Year" award. If you like Self-defense technique, then you will love this seminar! Just $50 gets you into the full day seminar, and the dinner that evening! Questions? Contact me via e-mail, or go to www.kimshapkido.com Thank you, Steve Petermann _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] MILP Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... Subject: August 2003 Master Instructor Licensing Program (MILP) Seminar Attention all 4th through 9th Dan Black Belts: There is still time to register for the August 22 - 23, 2003 MILP Seminar in Washington, D.C. Please click on the application at http://www.ustu.org/cgi-script/csNews/news_upload/USTU_2dWhatsNew_2edb.Instructor%20licensing%20application%20packet.REVISED.doc to sign up. Call Ms. Molly Shook at the USTU office at (719) 866-3624 or Grandmaster H. K. Lee at (703) 437-5111 with any questions. Molly Shook, Assistant to Executive Director United States Taekwondo Union One Olympic Plaza, Suite 104C Colorado Springs, Colorado 80909 Tel: (719) 866-3624 Fax: (719) 866-4642 --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Open Hapkido Seminar in Laughlin Nevada To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > welcome. The seminar features Grandmaster Chong S. Kim. GM Kim , a student > of Yong Sul Choi, ... Did Gm Kim study with Gm Choi before or after he was a student under Gm Ji? Just curious... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. Veuleman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] FLAGS Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Digest, Okay, So how about when facing the front of the room, you see: LOUISIANA USA USKA KOREA My next question is, for all you pressure point guru out there, ever been 'dead-legged'? Sure, we all have, you know, the nerve on the outside of the thigh that makes you not walk good for about 5 or 10 minutes. Yeah, that one, well how many times hitting that is bad for your health? My buds and I have always done it to one another, and I was thinking the other day about anything done in excess is bad. Anyone play this game of punch with their friends or have anything to say about repeated PP striking? YITMA Charlie V ************** L. Charles Veuleman - http://www.bluewavekarate.com Natchitoches Karate Institute - Chittim Jordan Tae Kwon Do 318-356-7727 Natchitoches Kustom Inks - Quality Screen Printing 318-332-1676 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Pressure points and talking funny Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > My next question is, for all you pressure point guru out there, ever been > 'dead-legged'? Sure, we all have, you know, the nerve on the outside of > the thigh that makes you not walk good for about 5 or 10 minutes. Yeah, > that one, well how many times hitting that is bad for your health? My > buds and I have always done it to one another, and I was thinking the > other day about anything done in excess is bad. Charlie, Yes, severe problems! If you kick that spot too frequently you end up speaking with a rather strong southern accent... :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest