Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:18:03 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #357 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. re:Martial arts and disabilities (Ken Legendre*) 2. More info about USTU (Robert Martin) 3. School locations (Rudy Timmerman) 4. Re: martial arts and disabilities? (Jye nigma) 5. Re: Problems with the USTU (Ray Terry) 6. Reality Training (BARBARA OLIVER) 7. Century Wavemaster XXL (Stovall, Craig) 8. Disliked belt colors (DrgnSlyr5@aol.com) 9. Invitation (DrgnSlyr5@aol.com) 10. Counter punches (Charles Richards) 11. New Masters (Charles Richards) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:46:13 -0500 From: Ken Legendre* To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] re:Martial arts and disabilities Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Rain Hello. If you take a look at the newest issue of Taekwondo Times (Sept 03), there is a picture in the bottom left corner area with a gentleman with white hair and glasses. He was completely blind. He had to be walked out to where he needed to be in order to compete. He almost won grandchampion in forms at that tournament. I was totally floored by his ability. As far as arthritis is concerned, I've always heard that physical activity is good for that as well. As far as a recommendation for what type... well I dont know. I'm not familiar with the schools in your area which would greatly influence which school to recommend. Have your mother go in and talk to the insturctor and have her make the decision. Most schools will let you try a class or two in order to get a feel for the class before you are required to sign up. good luck Ken Legendre 3rd Dan TKD 5th Gup HKD innae@netexpress.net --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Robert Martin" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:05:52 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] More info about USTU Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Another article. Robert Martin http://usoc.gazette.com/fullstory.php?id=566 Union members seek president's removal (8/20/03) U.S. Taekwondo asks USOC to act By MERI-JO BORZILLERI THE GAZETTE Some members of the U.S. Taekwondo Union have asked the U.S. Olympic Committee to remove the union's officers and executive committee, including president Sang Lee, in an effort to keep it from losing its charter as the sport's national governing body. If the USTU loses its charter with the USOC, it cannot send U.S. athletes to the Olympics. If that happens, the USOC would likely be the group to name athletes to the U.S. Olympic Team in taekwondo. "We're praying and hoping the removal of the executive committee is what happens," said member Bob Gallagher of Denver. "This is the only thing that will save this federation." Since at least November, the USOC has received letters from three U.S. Senators, including Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, asking the USOC to investigate allegations of financial and governance impropri- ety at the sport's national governing body. In a letter sent to the federation this month, the USOC's membership and credentials committee said its review revealed the USTU is in violation of a number of USOC rules, including maintaining financial standards, implementing a budget, and allowing the president to control board appointments. The committee said it plans to recommend to the USOC that taekwondo's membership be revoked. Letters from Senators Arlen Specter, R-Penn. and Rick Santorum, R- Penn. complaining to the USOC about the federation were written on behalf of USTU members living in Pennsylvania. Specter and Santorum passed their concerns to the USOC. Besides removing the federation's officers and executive committee, taekwondo members asked the USOC to replace the federation's voting structure and bylaws. USTU members say Lee orchestrated a vote to remove term limits for officers last November and as a result can serve indefinitely as president. Critics charge that under Lee's administration, athletes suffer because of misspent funds and are not fairly represented. In addition, some members said, Lee exerts undue influence on the board and in voting matters. USTU officials, including Lee and USTU executive director Bruce Harris, did not return phone messages Tuesday. Meanwhile, a group of 13 state taekwondo members from Ohio and Pennsylvania are scheduled to travel here today and Thursday to visit USTU offices at 1 Olympic Plaza to examine the federation's financial and membership records. Also on the agenda: a meeting with USOC legal division representatives. The visiting group includes state taekwondo officials, certified public accountants and attorneys. They have requested financial and membership records from 1999-2003. "We're willing to come in and make our complaints known to the USOC and to verify whether or not many of the rumors of financial malfeasance are accurate," said Melissa Nelke, member of the Pennsylvania state taekwondo association. Stevens, who practices taekwondo, helped write the 1978 Ted Stevens Amateur Sports Act, which gave the USOC its charter. It is being rewritten in the wake of the USOC's recent ethics problems. As part of the review process, taekwondo officials have been invited to state their case at the membership and credentials committee's meeting Sept. 12-13 in Denver. If the committee's stance remains unchanged, its recommendation will be submitted to the USOC board at its Oct. 17-19 board of directors meeting in Cleveland. The board would submit the recommendation to the USOC executive committee. Then the matter would return to the full board for vote on whether to decertify the federation. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:23:19 -0400 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] School locations Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ken writes: > May end up in the North, the South or a neighborhood near you. > Will hit you up on advice on local schools wherever I end up. Hello Ken: Sorry I was not able to get back right away. I have Geoff Booth here with me, and he keeps me pretty busy:) Anyway, you are always welcome to come visit with me here. Just give me a holler to make sure I am home. Sounds like you are still keeping in good shape, and it is a shame you can't find a school to train in right now. Best wishes, and DO drop by whenever you have a chance. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 03:55:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] martial arts and disabilities? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Wow. Her being blind t most will be a challenge for most instructors, but it's not impossible. Now I'd suggest an internal style like tai chi, definitely chi kung. The internal styles will help her with her overall health. Jye --- Rain Breaw wrote: > To the DD: > > This is a slightly different post from current > conversations, but I > have a question that I would like to ask for the > sake of my mother. My > mom is relatively young, but she has a number of > disabilities, which > include being legally blind (completely blind in one > eye and mostly > blind in the other), having a bone-marrow illness, > and various types of > arthritis. At the same time, she has always been > interested in taking > up some form of martial art. Her hope is that it > would enable her to > find new ways to use her body and give her the > chance, honestly, to > feel like a real human being in control, at least to > some degree, of > her own body and movement. Her mobility is limited > because she cannot > drive, but there is a Tang Soo Do school, and Aikido > school, and I > think one other martial arts school within walking > distance from where > she is living. I don't remember seeing Yoga or Tai > Chi anywhere > nearby, which would be what I would think of > recommending to her with > my own limited knowledge. > > I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations > regarding what she > might consider trying, or even if it is a good idea > at all. Also, what > might she be concerned about, or what might seem > like a concern and not > be? For example, is her vision going to be a > serious impairment, or > are there people who successfully practice martial > arts without vision? > > Thank you for your input, > > Rain > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 1400 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Problems with the USTU To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FWIW, the USTU has a very long record of problems... Just in the last year I have tried to obtain info about what happened to a large contribution I made sometime ago, but nothing... Email and letters to the USTU President have gone completely unanswered, but I have the canceled check, complete details, dates, etc. Sad... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: BARBARA OLIVER To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Reality Training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles Richards wrote: Yesterday I went to lunch with my web goddess, who is also my 3rd most senior 3 year student and now 3rd gup brown. This quote blows me away and puts me in my place about understanding peoples needs and motivation. 1. "I could do drills and forms all day and be happy." She doesn't like to spar, and doesn't care for falling and rolling. Okay, these are my sentiments exactly. I'm a..uh...50-something woman who has been training in the martial arts for the past 8 years. Having torn cartilage in my knee which, after a year of pain and discomfort, required surgery -- caused by trying to learn cartwheels in my MA class--and then breaking my foot during a sparring match this past February, I was almost ready to hang up the martial arts hat or...belt. I've never enjoyed sparring, and yes I feel I could do drills and forms all day and be happy. I'd like to think that I can use my MA training if I'm ever in a threatening situation, but basically I don't like to hit or be hit. In the fall, I'm going to search for a MA style that either has no sparring or non-contact sparring. I'm not even adverse to staying a white belt again forever, if I can avoid sparring. Barbara --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:21:08 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Century Wavemaster XXL Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the freestanding Century Wavemaster XXL? I'm looking to get a heavy bag for the house, and as much as I prefer a hanging bag, I think I'm going to go with a freestanding model for convenience sake. Right now I'm pondering this one against some of the offerings from Ringside. I'd just as soon keep my $280 in the bank as pay for something that sucks, so I'd appreciate some advice/warnings on this matter. I haven't been that impressed with Century products in the past, and I just want to make sure it's a durable piece of equipment. If anyone uses one at home or in their studio...I'd appreciate a product review. Feel free to contact me on or off the list. Thanks!!! Craig "My wallet is tighter than my abs" Stovall CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entities named above. If this email was received in error or if read by a party which is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error or are unsure whether it contains confidential or privileged information, please immediately notify us by email or telephone. You are instructed to destroy any and all copies, electronic, paper or otherwise, which you may have of this communication if you are not the intended recipient. Receipt of this communication by any party shall not be deemed a waiver of any legal privilege of any type whatsoever as such privilege may relate to the sender. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:41:46 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Disliked belt colors Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles R. shared a quote from his student: > 2. "I decied that I have to pass my red belt test becasue the brown > belts are so ugly." > I will never truely understand women, neh? It's not always women! We have a student, J, who couldn't wait to get rid of his purple belt because it was "a girly color." An ex-marine, currently a LEO, J is a motivated student who works very hard. He attended about five regular classes plus an hour private lesson with me every week. Being a Black Belt Club member, he was eligible for a private test and tested for green in about half the usual time. Following his private test I had him come forward and remove the purple belt to receive his new one. I couldn't resist. I asked another instructor who was present to please see if we had a pink belt in J's size. The look on J's face was priceless! I then presented his new green belt and apparantly green is an acceptable color. Sharon --__--__-- Message: 9 From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:47:45 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Invitation Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Steve Petermann said: > BTW, we welcome visitors, and if you are in our area, contact us. In > addition, we will be having an open seminar in Laughlin, NV September 13, > 2003. All practicing MAs are welcome, send me a e-mail if you are > interested. Just thought I'd add to this that our area is So. Calif., Los Angeles County. Sharon --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Counter punches Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> My son (9 yrs old) has been practising TKD for 1.5 years now and has good kicking skills and does fairly well in his school competitions. However, he has been frustrated lately in competitions outside his school because he lost on points from punches (light punches). He favors an attacking style and has no problem to match his skills with bigger kids but in the point sparring competition outside his school, he gets punched before he even gets to throw his kicks. Appreciate your expert advice on what he should work on to counter this in advance. TKDFather <> Dear Peter, My first blush would be try the WTF/Olympic style sparring as most of the points are scored with kicking, and from what I can see a punch REALLY needs to have a lot of force behind it to receive a point. Second, there is an entire art to counter punching, and "blitzing." aka Direct Angle of Attack or Single Direct Attacks. There are different drills to deal with is your son getting scored on with a reverse punch counter, or are the punches scored more of a successful "blitz." If people are scoring on your son with single direct attacks it's usually because the hands are not in a position to parry (common often while kicking) or he is being hit when his weight is double centered over both heels. Drill #1 throw linear direct single attacks at your son and have him step off the line of attack with hands in position to defend, practice getting of the line of attack by stepping in all 8 directions except straight forward or straight back. Drill #2 Stay on the balls of your feet with guards up and in constant motion (bounce) for 120 seconds (one round) 3 sets with 1 minute rests. You could also do that by jumping rope to get the endurance benefit, but doesn't train your mind to keep the gaurd up. You can also "shadow box" for 120 seconds in continuous motion. Drill #3 Enhance your own single direct attacks and counter, but with your strength (kicking). A linear thrust kick will deter a "blitzer" from rushing in on you, and is a pretty easy counter. Rush your son with an airshield and have him front leg side kick (cut kick) or spin back kick the shield before you over run him. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] New Masters Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Recieving the title "Master" a few years ago made me as uncomfortable as when you first get called "Sir". The title however is nothing compared to the mantle. If I may steal from the movie As Good as it Gets... "it makes me want to be a better man." I see no reason to hide my human-ness from my students. I make mistakes. I wish we used the term "Professor", and that is how I try to explain the title "Master" to those who ask me. <> Dear Steve, I still remember looking over my shoulder when Master McHenry would say Master Richards back in 2000. It felt wierd to hear my karate mom's refer to me as Master Richards when talking to their children. I'm a little more comfortable now with the tittle, but prefer to have my students use Sabom Nim when addressing me, because it means "honored teacher." On to sharing my humanness and training along side my gups. I teach 9 classes a week, 4 of which are youth and one is beginners. Somewhere during the other 4 classes I work along side my students, but somewhere that I can see everyone else and answer questions. This September, I'll have 3 gups going to the goat roping in Jackson and look forward to training with them all weekend. Lastly, I judge, coach and compete in AAU events, and all my students that attend usually hang around to cheer M.C. on (my teen students call me MC for Master Charles). My point is I want them to see "the old man" doing all the things I tell them they can accomplish and encourage them to do even better. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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