Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:01:48 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 10 #360 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Martial Colonialization (Ray Terry) 2. Korean Karate (L. Veuleman) 3. Re: martial arts and disabilities (Rain Breaw) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Martial Colonialization To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > should be of the people and by the people. Connsider this, in most South American > countries Korean nationals are not allowed to hold any official position > (except the title of coach) in that country's national governing body.... I don't know about colonialization... but the Kukkiwon would actually prefer the local NGBs to be run by the locals, not former Koreans. Or so I was told when visiting the Kukkiwon and hearing their concerns about the ustu. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. Veuleman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean Karate Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Corey, Aw man, this is a tough one, and history has proven for me to speak on this means the 'old school' digest folks are going to try to shoot me in the foot, but here goes nothing... : ) There could be many reasons for "Korean Karate" as a term refering to a style. There have been many books produced by high ranking Koreans with that as the title or somewhere in the title. That definitly helps a term stick, having it in writing. Also, that style might be Karate being taught by a Korean, with maybe a Korean flaire to it (FOR EXAMPLE, my Korean Karate system has a full-roundhouse in the form Yun Be, but Japan or Okinawan styles just knee or hop). Much of the Korean Karate stuff seems to come from the branch CHUNG DO KWAN. Around like 1955 Jhoon Rhee was brought to America and sponsored by Atlee Chittim, who was from Texas and spent time training with Rhee while in Korea. Sometime later, for whatever reason, Rhee started doing different forms and teaching "Tae Kwon Do' instead of refering to it as "Korean Karate" like what is supposedly written on Chittim's 1st dan certificate(taekwondo is supposed to be on his 2nd dan cert). Chittim just stayed doing what rhee taught him, and called it Taekwondo. It is essentially Kong Soo Do, and Japanese terms WERE used for a while by our group, and still are for the most part. Some of the schools just use strictly english, I am the only one that is incorporating Korean into the curriculum, other that the form names. Forms are basically the same as Tang/Kong Soo Do or even Shotokan in 'korean karate' schools. Pyong An's are same as Pinan/Heian and the black belt forms are just given their korean countername. I hope this helps some, or maybe creates some more precise questions. Broad stuff like this is hard to answer sometimes. Good luck. Some of our system websites are www.bluewavekarate.com www.jumpkick.com www.atleechittim.com and they have little short histories. YITMA Charlie Veuleman ************** L. Charles Veuleman - http://www.bluewavekarate.com Natchitoches Karate Institute - Chittim Jordan Tae Kwon Do 318-356-7727 Natchitoches Kustom Inks - Quality Screen Printing 318-332-1676 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:55:15 -0700 From: Rain Breaw To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: martial arts and disabilities Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear DD: Thank you to everyone who offered thoughts, articles, web resources, and encouragement both on and off the list regarding the possibilities for my mother in martial arts. The web resources offered are particularly helpful, and will make my mom very happy to know about. She lives in Santa Rosa, CA, so if anyone knows of an instructor that my mom may want to speak with in Santa Rosa, I'd be very happy to know of him or her. Tang Soo, Rain --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest