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Why take up Martial Arts? (Art VanVranken) 2. Re: Why take up martial arts? (Rain Breaw) 3. Why Mu Do? (Charles Richards) 4. Why we do it (Burdick, Dakin R) 5. Re: why take up martial arts (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 6. Aikido grandmaster Gyoich Mibukawa in Palau (Gordon R. Polk) 7. NEAC/Korea Foundation grants/fellowships announcements (fwd) (Ray Terry) 8. RE: Why take up Martial Arts reply (Stovall, Craig) 9. Why Take Up The Martial Arts (GLENN MCINTOSH) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Art VanVranken" To: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:35:18 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Why take up Martial Arts? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why not take up martial arts? After my first big power break, 4 Patio blocks with a Downward Punch and breaking a Knuckle, I couldn't wait to do it again. Just to do it. Its like drugs to me. I get an adrenaline rush every time I break and cant wait to do it the next time. Its not just a pastime anymore, its a way of life. Why didn't I take up Martial Arts a lot earlier in life?! --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Rain Breaw Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:21:21 -0800 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Why take up martial arts? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: "Stovall, Craig" > > 1. Self-defense - Obviously, many folks take it up because they > want > to feel more secure in their own skin (read: learn to fight). It's > complex > in and of itself because this motivation could take the form of the > small > female that wants to empower herself, or the weak male that wants to > stop > being a target for bullies. Heck, it could even be the strong male > that > wants to learn a more efficient way to pound his victims. Also, some > folk's > vocations lead them to martial arts training. Being able to handle > one's > self physically is obviously a big plus for LEO's. Many people want to > learn to fight...plain and simple. The reasons behind that can be > complex > and varied. > Dear Craig, Since I've already announced that I'm of the small female variety, I just want to complexify this reason a little - learning to fight is important, but even more important for me has been learning to be WILLING to fight. This has been the most difficult part of studying martial arts for me. I still get nailed with the hard kicks because I hold my own about an inch from my sparring opponent, and despite the continual punishment I'm still learning to find a place in me where I can land a kick. This is also probably the first step to self defense. I've noticed since starting that I'm able to look people in the eye who seem frightening to me now, and they seem to suddenly turn and walk the other direction when I do this. Thanks, Rain --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:35:07 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Why Mu Do? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why would anyone take up the martial arts? By gray beard. Go back in time to a place where something happened that you felt powerless to control or prevent. Was it your physical power, mental resolve, fear of (fill in the blank) or just a fight or flight moment that ended up as a “doe in the headlights” moment for you? Now picture a young high school student in engineering college prep courses at 6’-0” and 155# soaking wet. Our friend Irkle had always been the tallest boys and mediocre at most group sports. Enter college and chicks that dig biceps and Irkle and friends off to the campus weight lifting club. Irkle fills out to 6’ – 3” and 185# and buff. He wakes up one day to realize he is now a “big guy” and has no clue how to defend himself. One could say my Thermo Dynamics professor got me to take up martial arts because he was a mentor of mine and invited us to his Taekwondo club in 1985 (he was a brown belt at the time and faculty advisor for the club). Or one could argue that martial arts was a match for my worldview and that was just the time and place to begin. In summary, I really didn’t have a reason of my own initiation to take up martial arts, but was hooked from day one. I was the most awkward student with no flexibility. To this day I still struggle to learn new motion unless I can do it beside a qualified instructor live. So 18 years later with a career and family why do I continue? Rain said it best, a calming aggressiveness existing in a Taoist balance. I am so calm that it drives people in the rat race nuts. I am so self confident it drives others enrolled in appearances before thusness nuts that I really don’t care what they or society thinks about me. Shy awkward Irkle is now able to stand in front of over a dozen elected officials and a TV camera and give an engineering lecture and field questions with confidence. I wont go into a resume of career accomplishments on this martial arts forum, but suffice it to say I would have achieved few if any of them without the self-confidence gained in the last 18 years of martial arts. The most important and rewarding reason to go on is my students. I have been honored with a sacred trust. To walk a path before others and share my experiences with others who choose to climb a similar mountain. Train with jung do in your hearts The rest is commentary, Charles Richards www.mojakwan.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:09:30 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin R" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Why we do it Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I know that I first got into martial arts for three reasons: 1. To learn to defend myself: Mission accomplished there! 2. To look like Bruce Lee: Total failure. I still look nothing like him! 3. To avoid working out: Boxing and wrestling took effort, but orientalism taught me that the "secrets of the Orient" allowed the clever man to defeat the man who was in shape. Eventually I discovered that one wasn't right, but now I like working out. My body starts aching a couple days after I stop! Actually, in the last year I've gone through a kind of sea change and discovered that I do the martial arts now simply because I love the martial arts. I used to try to rationalize it to myself, since it wasn't making me any money and occasionally resulted in broken bones. But now I know that loving something is enough. Your mileage may vary, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:50:09 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: why take up martial arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 1. cuz i got verrrrry sedentary after college. up until i got out of college i was very active: cross country, basketball, track, softball, biking, etc, etc. when i got out of college and didnt do too many physical activities anymore i became a computer potato. needed to get physical :) 2. bruce lee and kwai chang kane were cool :). 3. had difficulty with concentration. wanted meditative/focus aspect. 4. bruce lee and kwai chang kane were cool :). 5. was a court appointed special advocate and guardian ad litem in the family court system. also worked with survivors of abuse/assualt. wanted to make sure i could protect myself from that. and of course, 6. bruce lee and kwai chang kane were cool :). my friends and i grew up playing martial arts. we'd tie a belt from a robe around someones waist and the goal was to match up and get that belt off of them. we kicked a lot of butt and did a lot of woooaaHHHHHHHHaaaahhhhhooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh type bruce lee kihaping. boy, that was fun. hee hee. but i dont think the bruce lee/kwai chang kane reasons will go over well with the little woman so go with the other reasons ;) enjoy, melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy www.cjmaa.com 1.573.673.2769 Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply www.cjmas.com 1.877.847.4072 --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Gordon R. Polk" To: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:04:34 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Aikido grandmaster Gyoich Mibukawa in Palau Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Here is an article that some may be interested in http://www.mvariety.com/sportpage/sport01.htm. By Agnes M. Abrau For Variety KOROR (Palau Horizon) - Aikido grandmaster Gyoich Mibukawa of Japan and American actor Steven Seagal have one thing in common - both learned Aikido from Hirokazu Kobayashi. Aikido is not only a system of combat but also a means of self-improvement, according to Mibukawa who is here in Palau to prepare for the first Aikido demonstration which will be held on Feb. 24 at the Palau National Gymnasium. Mibukawa, one of the world's few Aikido grandmasters, wants to celebrate his birthday next month in Palau by conducting an Aikido demonstration. Mibukawa said he will bring a select group of his 45 students who will demonstrate the techniques of Aikido. Mibukawa and his family visited Palau three years ago. Mibukawa said he fell in love with Palau and vowed to come back in the future. "I like Palau very much - the people here are very nice," Mibukawa said. Aikido is defined as a means of self-defense whose goal is not to cause serious injury. Its founder, Morihei Ueshiba, immersed himself in religious studies and developed an ideology devoted to universal socio-political harmony. According to Michitero Mibukawa, son of the grandmaster, there are no shortcuts in mastering Aikido. "It takes years of dedicated training," he said. Gordon R. Polk gpolk@houston.rr.com 281-353-4968 --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:49:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] NEAC/Korea Foundation grants/fellowships announcements (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net fyi, forwarding... I would like to remind the Korean studies community that there are many grants available for this year. There are many listings for both graduate students scholarships as well as short term research travels, conference proposals, curriculum development and to invite speakers to your campus. Please web to the AAS.org site and click on grants. This year we are hoping that more people will apply to the NEAC funds. The deadlines are Jan 31st for students KF fellowships and Feb. 1st for NEAC. The CKS committee and the Korea Foundation reps will make the awards decisions at the AAS meeting in San Diego this March. If you have questions you can also send me an email. Hyung Il Pai, CKS chair Associate Professor East Asian Languages and Cultural Studies, HSSB Building, University of California, Santa Barbara CA 93106 Fax: 805) 893-3011, Phone: 805) 893-2245 Email: Hyungpai@eastasian.ucsb.edu Dept. Web-site -http://www.eastasian.ucsb.edu/ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:01:26 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Why take up Martial Arts reply Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> I liken it to Vince McMahon's famous comment about pro wrestling..."For those who get it, no explanation is needed. For those who don't get it, no explanation will suffice". Your story also reminded me of a great article written by powerlifter Dave Tate of the famous Westside Barbell Club. The subject of the article was the same question that was asked here, only in regards to lifting..."Why do we do it?". He ended the article with a nice quote that may hold some meaning for some. I know it struck a chord with me. "When someone asks you why you do what you do, just grin. We do what we do because this IS WHAT WE DO. Our passion has built our character, and our character defines us. Never lose your passion." 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Receipt of this communication by any party shall not be deemed a waiver of any legal privilege of any type whatsoever as such privilege may relate to the sender. --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:06:17 +1100 From: "GLENN MCINTOSH" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Why Take Up The Martial Arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ----------------------------------------------------------- This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. ----------------------------------------------------------- Its an interesting question an one only you can answer, everybody who trains in martial arts do it for their own reasons. I became involved when I took my 7 year old daughter along and found that training for that same hour was a lot more fun and beneficial than watching for an hour. However know after 2 years of training my reasons have increased, I still, more than ever, enjoy the bond Hapkido has brought to me and my daughter, but it has now gone beyond that and has become more personnel. It gives me a focus on life, a desire to learn more, to push myself and my body to new limits of physical fitness and control. I hope all the answers you have received have helped but I would suggest you look into yourself and in there will be the answer. And if the only answer you can come up with is because you enjoy it, is that not enough. Glenn McIntosh Zen Dan Kwan Hapkido Australia www.zendankwan.com.au ----------------------------------------------------------- Mandatory water restrictions now apply in Sydney, Blue Mountains and the Illawarra. Fines of $220 apply from 1 November 2003. No sprinklers or watering systems at any time. No hosing of hard surfaces including vehicles at any time. 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