Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 03:01:48 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #36 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Query regarding advancement (Neil Burton) 2. Rooms For Jackson Seminar (Jeffery Dean Sr.) 3. PCP (Burdick, Dakin R) 4. TaeKwonDo news (Julian Lim) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:24:52 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Burton To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Query regarding advancement Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all I have been lurking here for about 4 months and thought I would take an opportunity to say hi and ask some opinions. So firstly "Hi all" :-) Secondly - I have been studying ITF TKD for about 10 months, with my wife, and I must say we both love it. We train 4-5 times a week for 2-3 hours each session. We also have a 50lb punching bag hanging at home, a makiwara and a stretching machine for mornign training (each day). I think we can safely say that we are as keen as mustard. My wife is really good, she got into the finals for her yellow belt pattern in the last competition we went to, and can do full front and side splits - leading to some really nice side, turning, and downward kicks! I must admit that I struggle on side and turning to get abive chest level. Anyway, I digress. My query was regarding the advancement that we have been experiencing. Whereas most students in our dojang promote every three months one gup, we have been double promoted twice, hence at 10 months we are 6 gup (green). I have spoken to my instructor who said that I shouldn't be surprised as most students train once a week, so we do 5 times more training. most students in our Dojang take 2 1/2 years to 3 years to reach black so I am not sure that we are a McDJ, and people do fail soem gradings and are held back. However, I have read comments in posts here about rapid promotion and McDJs and thought I would seek opinion on my experience. I ahve another grading coming up in 3 weeks, and am worried about another double promotion to Blue 4..... To wrap up, we love training, and enjoy the workout. the belt matters little to me or my wife, but I am aware of the value that others place in the belt, and would feel bad if someone looked down on us or the art that we practice just because of the rapidity of advancement that we have experienced. Any comments gratefully recieved Taekwon Neil neilb@codemuncher.com Singapore --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Jeffery Dean Sr." To: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:23:49 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Rooms For Jackson Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Y'all - I am looking forward to the upcoming Seminar in Jackson MS. during the weekend of March 5-7. If my last 2 trips are any indication it is gonna be BIG BIG FUN and good times. I would like to extend an early thanks to GM West and his people, they are the best. If anybody needs a place to sleep, I have booked a double room for the weekend. Tang Soo Dean Sr. PS. Cain't wait to meet new friends and catch up with old ones --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.566 / Virus Database: 357 - Release Date: 1/22/2004 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:42:51 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin R" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] PCP Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks Richard and Travis, for explaining PCP. I actually use PPCP more often thatn PCP. In other words, 3 words of praise to 1 word of correction. :) But reading about the personal construct psychology was interesting. It kind of links existential philosophy to the new cultural studies, which I found very useful. Take care, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:17 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Lim To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] TaeKwonDo news Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FYI: The state of Korean TaeKwonDo today..... Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:23:04 -0800 (PST) Joong Ang Ilbo: Olympic official held in embezzlement case by Ha Jae-sik, Kim Hyeon-gyeong Following a dramatic early morning arrest yesterday of Korea's top international sports official, prosecutors detailed how Kim Un-yong, a vice president of the International Olympic Committee, used huge sums of cash he allegedly embezzled from his athletics organizations. Mr. Kim, a former National Assemblyman who is also the chairman of both the World Taekwondo Federation and World Taekwondo Headquarters, was taken into custody and charged on numerous corruption and bribery counts. Prosecutors said Mr. Kim had been running a "general store of embezzlement." Mr. Kim allegedly embezzled around 3.8 billion won ($3.2 million) from the taekwondo organizations and put the money to personal use, in part paying his personal secretaries and his expenses for personal travel. "Mr. Kim manipulated financial documents so that the headquarters' money appears to have been transferred to the federation," said a prosecutor. "By such a scheme, he took 400 million won from the headquarters and used the sum for his travel expenses and funds for his IOC presidential election campaign." Prosecutors also said their investigation showed that Mr. Kim sent 173 million won to North Korea, far less than the 1.3 billion won Mr. Kim said he handed to the North. A lawyer of Mr. Kim said, "One should not charge that Mr. Kim engaged in all-out embezzlement activities. It should be considered that he worked to further sports internationally." 2004.01.28 Korea Herald: Fall of the Korean sports czar By Kim So-young Koreans yesterday saw their country's most influential sports administrator hit bottom after more than 30 years on top, as his career was blighted by a series of corruption scandals. Wearing a mask and a cap over much of his face, Kim Un-yong, suspended vice president of the International Olympic Committee, appeared humiliated as he was arrested on charges of accepting bribes, embezzlement and violation of foreign currency laws. Kim went from exerting absolute power in the domestic sports arena during his three-decade reign to total disgrace, not only at home but also in the Olympic community. While his arrest was widely expected, given a number of corruption allegations, many Koreans still appear jittery over the future of Korea's sports leadership. IOC leader Kim Un-yong is taken to a detention house near Seoul after being arrested on corruption charges early yesterday morning. In particular, the sports community expressed deep concern because Kim had not groomed any potential successors and the country had relied on his longtime experience to win favors from the international sports community. Sports officials worry that taekwondo, the Korean traditional martial art that was first adopted as an official competition four years ago, may now be excluded from future Olympic Games. Many also see his downfall as bringing shame on the entire country. Foreign media rushed to describe his case as a vivid illustration of rampant corruption in Korea. Kim has already given up his seat in the National Assembly and the former first-term lawmaker's status as IOC vice president is also in jeopardy. He has been stripped of his position with the sports organization until the investigation into charges against him is completed. In addition, the IOC launched its own probe into the charges. He forged friendly ties with many influential world sports figures over the past 30 years, but is also considered to have many enemies. Speculation is rampant that his foes will seek to expel him permanently from the world sports stage, as well as the IOC. Despite many previous IOC corruption scandals, such a permanent expulsion would be the first-ever case of this magnitude in the organization's history. This is also not Kim's first problem with the IOC or involvement in scandal. He was handed a warning twice by the Olympic ethics committee in 1999 over allegations that he received bribes from Salt Lake City's bidding committee. The U.S. city won the bid to stage the 2002 Winter Olympics but two former American officials were indicted on racketeering and conspiracy charges for allegedly exerting financial influence during the city's bid. Once respected by the public for his contributions to elevating Korean sports in the international community, Kim faced enormous public antagonism over the past few months for allegedly campaigning against Korea's bid for the 2010 Winter Olympics. After the Korean city of Pyeongchang lost the games last year to Vancouver, Canada by three votes, members of the bidding committee accused Kim of hindering their efforts in order to improve his own chances of being elected IOC vice president. The Olympic organization does not normally award more than one prize at a time to a country. The allegation was widely backed up by witnesses despite Kim's continued denials. Once public opinion went against him, a raft of nearly simultaneous corruption allegations emerged, many of which Kim reportedly acknowledged to the prosecution during questioning. He allegedly embezzled about 4 billion won from various sports organizations, including 2.6 billion won from the World Taekwondo Federation, from which he resigned as president earlier this month. He also reportedly admitted smuggling more than 150 million won out of Korea to fund a trial involving his son, who had been taken into custody by Bulgarian police for alleged immigration wrongdoing. He is also accused of receiving bribes from various companies and interest groups in return for exercising his influence. After starting his career as an adviser to the Defense Minister in 1961, Kim served as councilor at the Korean Embassy in the United States and in 1968 became secretary on presidential security under the Park Chung-hee administration. Since the late President Park appointed him to chair the Korean Taekwondo Association in 1971, he has dominated the local sports community. He established in 1973 the World Taekwondo Federation, which has a membership of 179 countries. He took the lead in efforts to have the Korean martial art selected as one of the official sports at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. Having served at the IOC since 1986, he was eventually elected the number two man at the organization last year. The public expected him to represent Korea's voice strongly but, less than a year later, those hopes have been dashed. 2004.01.29 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest