Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:49:06 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #254 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Forms teaching ideas (Sheree Goldstein) 2. Best wishes (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Korean Bo Staff (singplay) 4. Dan test (Edward) 5. GM Duc Dang (TKDnorge) 6. Re: Reprint (bsims@midwesthapkido.com) 7. Re: KOMA (Donald Pillow) 8. Looking inward (Ray Terry) 9. Re: Texas mutants and seminars (David N. Beck) 10. Re: Korean Bo Staff (Ray Terry) 11. RE: 6:30 am workouts (Howard Spivey) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:52:06 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Sheree Goldstein Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Forms teaching ideas Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Does anyone know any fun drills I can use for my Kata/ forms class? I teach >groups ranging of skill and age level. Stuff to keep the class upbeat and >exciting, u know? One of the things my master instructor does with his youngest students (4-6 years old) is use "Hulk Hands". These are big green rubber hands with a rod inside that young hands can hold onto, and a speaker that roars if you make a (relatively) strong punching motion with the hands. He can keep their attention through the entire poomse with the hulk hands when without them it was much more difficult. Sheree Goldstein Training Instructor UMAC, 1st dan --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:40:48 -0400 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Best wishes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sandy writes: > I am going to be a partner > owner and instructor at one of our 6 schools. Best wishes from your friends at NKMAA Sandy. It is a great thing to realize your dreams:) Happy Memorial Day to all the US folks, and many thanks to those who are serving today. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "singplay" To: Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:09:18 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean Bo Staff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I usually just read, learn, and enjoy the list, but this time I need to ask for some advice. My Taekwondo instructor has decided to teach the black belts at our school a staff form (staff version of Won Hyo) and some staff techniques. I have access to a 6' staff (which from what I can tell is a common length), but because of the low ceilings at our school I would like to purchase a shorter staff. Please advise me where I can get a "good deal" on a staff and what would be an appropriate length and type to purchase. Thanks in advance for your help, Don --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:34:43 -0500 From: Edward To: Dojang Digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Dan test Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello fellow DD members, Well the time has finally come. This Thursday, the 3rd, I will take me first Dan test. For several months (read over a year now) I have been knocked out of testing due to injuries. The last few months I have been waiting so that my friend and I could test together. Dan testing solo would not be as fun as a double test. Wish me luck, and Masters Thomas (Jason, of beecaves) and Kirch (of Georgetown) if you are interested in attending you are welcome to stop by and witness the hilarity that will be my test. Edward Peters Austin, Texas --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "TKDnorge" To: Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:16:09 +0200 Subject: [The_Dojang] GM Duc Dang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I was wondering if anyone had any info on Grand Master Duc Dang from USA? I remember him beeing listed on the old itf-generalchoi page, but havnt been able to find any info on him. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 07:40:17 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Reprint Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Michael: You will probably recognize the post I am making here as a cut&paste from the MARTIAL TALK post I just made. I don't mean to embarrass. Rather I felt that the post was well-written in that it seemed to neatly encapsulate where I am at right this minute vis how I might be regarded. Hope you don't mind. "........ "....Bruce... I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon here but just let me say bro that let's see... you had a problem with Master Whalen, you had a problem with Doju Nim Ji Han Jae...etc...etc.. and it seems that in both cases you packed up your tent and left early... yes? Well hmmmm... I'll leave it at that...maybe a little more downstairs and a lot less upstairs might serve your Hapkido training better...just a thought......." Thanks for your thoughts, but to be perfectly candid with you Michael, I think this all comes down to a simple matter of priorities--- pure and simple. When I lost my job and members of the Hapkido community could have spoken-up on my behalf, I'm afraid that was not a priority for them. When I attended the seminar in Colorado taught by GM Ji and found his teaching approach lacking, instead of discussing the nature of teaching I was shouted down for not showing proper deference to a Hapkido icon. Again its a matter of priorities-- which was more important to people--- an evaluation of teaching skills or protecting a much loved personality. When I went to Mass for what I was lead to believe would be a deep examination of KHF material vis materials of particular kwans and individuals relative to the up-coming Masters' Course I was taken to task for offending the attendees and the matter of getting MY needs met never got addressed. When I attend an event and find that MY needs are not getting met,I leave. However I have noticed that somehow I am criticized for leaving early and not staying the course but the matter of my needs as a teacher AND student NOT getting addressed never gets talked about. When I raise the issues of "respect vs responsibilities" in the dynamics between senior vs junior, the issue of traditional weapons training versus introducing weapons material from other arts, the issue of investigating documented Korean martial science versus oral traditions of current Hapkido personalities nobody wants to hear about this. (quote Ray Terry- "who cares") In short, Michael, there are a group of Hapkido practitioners who have a very specific way in which they view the Hapkido arts, Hapkido personalities, Hapkido history and Hapkido politics. They have made it abundantly clear that there is little room for people who do not share their way of experiencing the Hapkido arts. And when someone comes along and experiences the Hapkido arts in a different way, the messenger gets taken to task rather than the issues discussed. And if its is of any consolation I can report that this is not unique to Hapkido arts. Check the "Tang Soo Do and the Chinese Connection" on this same net and you will see in my exchanges with Robert that rather than being appreciative of getting some pretty sophisticated information regarding the subject, Robert was arguably antagonistic and arrogant rather than grateful. I think I can be forgiven if, after a few years of this sort of treatment, some part of me finally starts to realize that people want the KMA a particular way and have little interest in dealing with the facts when the prejudices are so much more interesting. In closing, I will say only that I hope the up-coming event in Florida is everything you and Hal, Fabian, et al desire it to be. For myself I no longer trust that the use of "friendship", "brotherhood", "unity" or "solidarity" are anything but buzzwords that folkks use to sugar-coat their advertizing. There is no room in your fraternity for disparate views of the same art and I don't think you have to hit me with a stick to get this point home any better than what the experiences of the last two years has. Sorry for the long post. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce ........................" --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Dingodog1@webtv.net (Donald Pillow) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:05:17 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: KOMA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It seems that many of you empathize with Frank Clay's attempt at finding the stability and organiation that many of you have seemed to want but you cynically poo-poo his attempt. I applaud his effort as the alternative is to either give up, continue what you've been doing(insanity) or as some seem to have done, taken the permission that our fellow dojanger has given with his frankness and openness and instead of building him up, torn him down. I don't know what the solution is practically, many of you have stated ideals that don't seem to generally be met with a few exceptions. No qualifier or apologies. Simply my opinion and observation. Good luck Frank with your new endeavor. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Looking inward Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > When I attend an event and find that MY needs are not getting met, I > leave. I suspect this sums up the problem completely... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:50:23 -0500 From: "David N. Beck" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Texas mutants and seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net on 5/30/04 5:01 AM, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net at the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > > Message: 11 > From: "J. R. West" > To: "Dojang Digest" > Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 17:02:05 -0500 > Subject: [The_Dojang] Back from the abyss > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > Second: Speaking of Master Hodder, I will be at his school with a van load of > Hapkido mutants on the 12th of June. I look forward to seeing all my TX > friends, speaking of mutants. > Hey, I stopped shooting force beams from my eyes years ago when my little girl was born! I'll be there this time. And by the way, I'll host Dojunim Ji on October 2nd and 3rd (see http://www.beckmartialarts.com/Ji_flyer.html for more info ). Folks, look around you. There ARE opportunities to train with the best; it may not be in your backyard, but maybe you can help make it across the street. Dojunim, Master West, Master Timmerman, Master Booth, and many other top-notch Hapkido people are willing to travel and share their knowledge. Take whatever opportunities you can to get on the mat with them. Regards, -- David N. Beck dnbeck@beckmartialarts.com http://www.beckmartialarts.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Korean Bo Staff To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > My Taekwondo instructor has decided to teach the black belts at our school a > staff form (staff version of Won Hyo) and some staff techniques. I have access > to a 6' staff (which from what I can tell is a common length), but because of > the low ceilings at our school I would like to purchase a shorter staff. > > Please advise me where I can get a "good deal" on a staff and what would be an > appropriate length and type to purchase. Have you checked out the Japanese Jo? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Howard Spivey" To: Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:19:07 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: 6:30 am workouts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net -----Original Message----- From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net [mailto:the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:02 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #253 - 2 msgs Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net anthony, i share your feelings... i try to get up early at least one morning a week and work out at home, even if i'm going to train that night. i usually do about 20 minutes of aerobic exercise to get good and warm, then finish with a bit of isometric stretching or bag work. i've definitely noticed that the older you get, the harder it is to jump out of bed and into a workout (i'm 50). another factor that definitely comes into play with me is the temerature. at home i work out in my basement. in the dead of winter, it's pretty darned cold down there. usually i turn on a small portable heater before i go to bed the night before. but one nice thing is, a morning seems to energize me for the rest of the day. regards, howard --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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