Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:01:59 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #351 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Hong Won chou (Tkdsid@aol.com) 2. Re: Hapkido: Love/Hate (Bruce Sims) 3. Re: Re: Hapkido: Love/Hate (jeffrey kiral) 4. GA Luv (L. Veuleman) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Tkdsid@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:11:41 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Hong Won chou Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What dan rank did the new president of WTF have before he became president and what rank will he now have? Sid Rubinfeld --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkido: Love/Hate Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have been re-reading your posts and have not been able to figure how you might sustain repeated injury to your legs excepting that you have developed poor execution in your breakfalls. For instance, I can pretty much guarentee that were I to be thrown with a high-velocity technique such as a Reversed Shoulder Throw, all I need do is straighten both legs and I would probably fracture one of my ankles. To avoid this, in accepting the fall, neither knee is locked. More importantly the leg opposite the seized arm is relatively straight, dispersing the energy along the longest axis of the body. The other leg is bent at the knee with the sole of the foot touching the mat a scant second before the longer extended leg. In this way the "shorter leg" acts like something of a shock absorber, as such. Other points to consider are whether or not you are breathing out as you are thrown, whether you are relaxed, and whether your timing in hitting the mat approximates your expectations. To address these last three points I use "safety throws" with my students until they become comfortable with the amount of time that they take to reach the mat and confident that they can manage their body in time and space as the throw is executed. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "jeffrey kiral" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkido: Love/Hate Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:33:06 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The way I was taught to fall is with your body turned slightly with one shoulder raised, arms out 45 deg., palms hit flat, one foot hits the floor ( the one on the side of the body that has the raised shoulder ), bent knee, and the other leg curled under the landing leg. Immediately following the breakfall, you bring your arms crossed in front of you while your feet remain in the same position so you end up with your guard up. This is how we practice them before every class. To facilitate an easier breakfall from a throw where one arm is siezed, I was told to reach thru and under the armpit with the siezed arm to get the body in the correct position ( dont forget to tuck your chin and kihap! ). Works for me---havent gotten hurt since I first started HKD. (knock on wood ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Sims" To: Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkido: Love/Hate > I have been re-reading your posts and have not been > able to figure how you might sustain repeated injury > to your legs excepting that you have developed poor > execution in your breakfalls. For instance, I can > pretty much guarentee that were I to be thrown with a > high-velocity technique such as a Reversed Shoulder > Throw, all I need do is straighten both legs and I > would probably fracture one of my ankles. To avoid > this, in accepting the fall, neither knee is locked. > More importantly the leg opposite the seized arm is > relatively straight, dispersing the energy along the > longest axis of the body. The other leg is bent at the > knee with the sole of the foot touching the mat a > scant second before the longer extended leg. In this > way the "shorter leg" acts like something of a shock > absorber, as such. Other points to consider are > whether or not you are breathing out as you are > thrown, whether you are relaxed, and whether your > timing in hitting the mat approximates your > expectations. To address these last three points I use > "safety throws" with my students until they become > comfortable with the amount of time that they take to > reach the mat and confident that they can manage their > body in time and space as the throw is executed. FWIW. > > > Best Wishes, > > Bruce > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 1600 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. Veuleman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] GA Luv Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles, Thanks for the kind words and congrats on my wedding. I hope nathan takes a crew from the school, I unfortunatly have to work...:( I do hope to see more video compilations this year from the event. Last year Jason did his, and I did my MEGA compilation that was too big to go on the net, and there were some great pics, but I would love to see more video mix files....Can ya hear me out there??? :) Hopefully I can enjoy from a distance. Ya'll have a great time. ************** L. Charles Veuleman - http://www.bluewavekarate.com Natchitoches Karate Institute - Chittim Jordan Tae Kwon Do 318-356-7727 Natchitoches Kustom Inks - Quality Screen Printing 318-332-1676 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest