Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:40:04 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #367 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Australian events (Bernard Maginnity) 2. SEAL Team 5 (Frank Clay) 3. Re: Hip Flexibility (Bruce Sims) 4. Re: Olympic Qualifiers (SallyBaughn@aol.com) 5. Kevin James (Brian Beach) 6. Map exhibition (Ray Terry) 7. Re: Re: Olympic Qualifiers (Ray Terry) 8. HEAD GEAR (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) 9. Re: SEAL Team 5 (Ray Terry) 10. RE: SEAL Team 5 (Kevin F. Donohue) 11. ReHip Flexability (Mike McLaney) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 14:33:00 +1000 From: "Bernard Maginnity" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Australian events Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Ted East Coast is your best bet. Unfortunately I can't help out much with WA events. However, if you can make it to Melbourne the Power Hapkido academy has a great group of guys under Mr John Baade. Alternately, if you get to Sydney come and have a look at Complete Self Defence under the watchful eye of Master Geoff Booth. Master Geoff usually organises at least one international seminar for his guys each year. He has hosted Dojunim Ji Han Jae, Master Timmerman and Dr Kimm over the last eighteen months at his Sydney location. If you want some more info on training with these guys have a look at www.hapkido.com.au Or drop me a line and I will offer any information I can. Kind regards Bernie Maginnity -----Original Message----- From: Ted Dana [mailto:scoobyd6@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2004 5:59 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] international events Hi everybody! I love reading about all these great seminars and events in the US. The only downside is I haven't been in country for four years now (been living in Australia). Does any body out there live in AUS? Anyhoo, It'd be great if anyone could point me in the right direction Yours in Aus, Ted --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Frank Clay" To: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:12:03 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] SEAL Team 5 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kevin, It was my understanding from talking to some folks at Little Creek that there was no team 5. There were teams 1, 2 and 6. The numbers were skipped in order to prevent knowing how large the force actually was. Marcinko makes the same claim. Anyone? Frank --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hip Flexibility Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear kevin: Wonderful to hear from you and congratulations on your seminar. From all accounts it sounds as though it was a rousing success. I am responding to your question about hip flexibility as I have had some very personal experience in just this area, and made a very bad decision not to give it due regard. The result has been a slow rehab. I am tossing out some thoughts for what they may be worth. a.) Hamstrings ARE important but can be confused with damaging the many stabilizing muscles and tendons bewteen the sacrum and the pelvis. In my own case, having injured the hamstring at the origin and experience the attendant destabilizing of the knee, I figured that taking care of the hamstring would fix the problem. What I did not appreciate was that the hamstring injury (such as it was) was only secondary to damage done to a number of smaller stabilizing structures. Despite my beating myself up over not sufficiently warming up, it has also come to my awareness that even HAD I warmed up in my usual fashion, my typical stretching routine does not address these smaller and tighter structures as does the typical stretches to the larger muscle groups such as the hamstrings. 2.) The structures I am speaking of need increasing amounts of attention as we age, just as all other muscles, tendons and ligaments. However, there is also the rule that as one stretches or "loosens" these groups one is also asking, simlutaneously, for these muscles, ligaments and tendons to do a less effective job stablizing joints as they perform THEIR jobs. Loose muscles, ligaments and tendons and tight joints are mutually exclusive-- you can't have both--- and that fine line between the two gets harder to walk as one gets older. 3.) Stretches that work the groups that I am speaking of include a variety of stretchs that work out of a "fetal" position. A simple squat is probably the best known, but there are any number of positions that work the smaller stablizing structures on the pelvis. When we are young stretches to the hamstrings usually are sufficient to stretch these other structutres by extension. As we get older, though, these structures need to be attended to in and of themselves. For myself I have begun to return to the deep and extended postures of my TAN TUI 12 and Shudokan roots in order to get back to giving proper respect to these matters. Not real interested in repeating the events of the last few months. :-) FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 4 From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:29:32 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Olympic Qualifiers Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:38:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: Well... You have to qualify for the olympics, right? And I would guess that there's a lot of competition to go to the olympics. Perhaps they simply didn't get any more qualified. Each nation is allowed to send a maximum of two men and two women to the 2004 Olympic taekwondo competition. The countries qualify spots in the competition, not athletes. Once a country has secured a berth in a certain weight class, it may use its own trials process to determine which athlete will fill that spot in Athens. The 124 Olympic spots (64 men, 60 women) are determined as follows: 1. Twenty-eight berths (14 men, 14 women) were awarded at the World Taekwondo Qualification Tournament held in Paris in Dec. 2003. The top four men in the 68kg (150 lbs) and 80kg (176 lbs) divisions qualified their countries in those weight classes. The top three men at 58kg (128 lbs) and 80+kg (176+ lbs) earned spots for their countries in those divisions. For the women, the top four at 49kg (108 lbs) and 67+kg (148+ lbs) and the top three at 57kg (126 lbs) and 67kg (148 lbs) divisions all qualified spots for their countries in those respective weight classes. 2. Eighty-eight bids (44 men, 44 women) were awarded at a series of Regional Qualifying Tournaments: Asia, Europe and Pan America each awarded three spots in each category (12 men and 12 women), allowing the top three finishers to secure spots for their country in the divisions.Africa awarded two spots in each division (eight men, eight women), allowing the top two finishers in each weight class to qualify his or her country in that division. 3. Greece, as the host nation, is automatically awarded two competitors each in the men's and women's taekwondo competitions. Choosing which categories it wanted to compete in, Greece will enter athletes in the men's Olympic Flyweight and Olympic Heavyweight divisions and the women's Olympic Featherweight and Olympic Welterweight classes. 4. Four additional men's berths are given by invitations of a Tripartite Commission (International Olympic Committee, Athens Organizing Committee and World Taekwondo Federation) on May 31, 2004. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Brian Beach Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:07:07 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Kevin James Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net For SEAL authentication try these guys - http://www.authentiseal.org/ I looked at the wall of shame didn't see him there. Brian On Sep 2, 2004, at 6:02 AM, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > As for his SEAL background, I have no idea. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Map exhibition Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fowarding... For those of you who are in Seoul the next coming few months and are interested in Western maps of Korea. There is an exhibition in the Seoul history museum of Western maps of Korea called Korea in Western imagination. The exhibition opened last Tuesday and a nice catalogue with images of all the maps in the exhibition is available as well. The museum is in Kwanghwamun a map of how to get there can be found here http://www.museum.seoul.kr/html/eng/eng.html Henny (Lee Hae Kang) ----------------------------- http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr Portal to all my sites http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Feel free to discover Korea with Hendrick Hamel (1653-1666) http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/indexk2.htm In Korean http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/Dutch In Dutch http://www.vos.henny-savenije.pe.kr Frits Vos Article about Witsen and Eibokken and his first Korean-Dutch dictionary http://www.cartography.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Korea through Western Cartographic eyes http://www.hwasong.henny-savenije.pe.kr Hwasong the fortress in Suwon http://www.oldKorea.henny-savenije.pe.kr Old Korea in pictures http://www.british.henny-savenije.pe.kr A British encounter in Pusan (1797) http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr Genealogy http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr/bboard Bulletin board for Korean studies --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Olympic Qualifiers To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > 3. Greece, as the host nation, is automatically awarded two competitors each > in the men's and women's taekwondo competitions. Choosing which categories > it wanted to compete in, Greece will enter athletes in the men's Olympic > Flyweight and Olympic Heavyweight divisions and the women's Olympic Featherweight > and Olympic Welterweight classes. The 6'7" Greek heavyweight did well... right up until he met the Korean Moon Dae Sung in the gold medal match. A nice kick to the head to knock out the Greek. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:38:25 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] HEAD GEAR Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net this may have been covered before, but for my benefit can anyone tell what head gear they would recommend for training? I what to buy one that offers good protection but doesn't feel too bulky -----Original Message----- From: SlaneSavage [mailto:slanesavage@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 11 February 2004 15:50 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Forms - The holy grail As a Tang Soo Do person, this is something that has vexed me for some time, your opinions would be greatly appreciated. When I first started learning TSD and our forms, initially I was taught the basics of the form (e.g. low block, step forward and mid section punch, turn etc). As I progressed I was encouraged to constantly refine the basics and improve my understanding of the movements (stance, breathing, movement, visualisation etc). As time passed I was encouraged to continually practice and improve the actual execution of the forms, to question the applications which were sometimes used to help me originally visualise and perform the basic movements with some meaning (rather than some weird variation on line dancing!!). I assume (from a position of some ignorance) that the masters of the various forms which we practise today, originally developed the forms to contain actual combat effective techniques within each particular movement in the form. I have read several books in which the authors offer different interpretations of the applications, some of which "feel" more appropriate than others. Apologies for dragging on, now to my dilemma, what were the original applications that the original Masters intended when they developed these forms, is this the holy grail we should be seeking or should we concentrate on trying to learn how we as individuals can best apply these techniques today. Best Regards Slane --------------------------------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 1600 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended addressee, do not use, pass on or copy it in any way. If you have received it in error, please delete it immediately and telephone the number given, reversing the charges if necessary. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] SEAL Team 5 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > It was my understanding from talking to some folks at Little Creek that there > was no team 5. There were teams 1, 2 and 6. The numbers were skipped in order > to prevent knowing how large the force actually was. Marcinko makes the same > claim. When Seal Team 6 was formed they supposedly jumped over some #s. I believe that there are now teams 1 -> 6. ??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:00:05 -0400 From: "Kevin F. Donohue" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] SEAL Team 5 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I remember Marcinko making a remark about that... I just can't remember if it was regarding 5 or 7. SEAL Team 5, formerly UDT 11, is based in Coronado, CA. It's geographic area of concentration is the Northern Pacific, mainly Korea. It deploys platoons to Naval Special Warfare Unit ONE in Guam, aboard amphibious ships deployed to Seventh, Fifth, and Third Fleets, and conducts DFTs throughout the Pacific and Central Theaters. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clay [mailto:frankclay@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:12 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] SEAL Team 5 Kevin, It was my understanding from talking to some folks at Little Creek that there was no team 5. There were teams 1, 2 and 6. The numbers were skipped in order to prevent knowing how large the force actually was. Marcinko makes the same claim. Anyone? Frank _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 1700 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Mike McLaney" To: Subject: Re[The_Dojang] Hip Flexability Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:42:51 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kevin, I have the same problem. One thing that has helped me alot is rolling on a Lacrosse ball all around the hip area. This gives the area a "deep tissue massage". Also I do some PNF stretches that helps - lay on your back, bend both knees and take both legs to one side while looking in the opposite direction, try to bring your knees up while resisting with one hand on the side the knees are on(don't let the knees up). Do that for the count of 20 then turn your head facing the side your knees are on, still resisting, opposite arm straight out (pointing to the wall that your the top of your head is closest to) for another 20 seconds. Tom Kurz's book talks about the pain in the hip in stretching and says to rotate the pelvis when doing side splits. I also do some stretches to release the Psoas. Hope this helps. Mike McLaney --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest