Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:01:51 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #372 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Sally....DAHN (George Peters) 2. Re: Training in Korea (Klaas Barends) 3. you say tomato, I say tomoto (Kevin Luttrell) 4. conference on the Park era (Ray Terry) 5. Tang Soo Do forms and History (Gladewater SooBahkDo) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:26:48 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Sally....DAHN Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Maam, You have the same idea I have and have always tried to pass on to students. I have always used the vowel sounds from the Spanish or German I have studied and this has always worked well. I have been following this thread with some confusion as to why this would even be an issue, and had not considered that everyone perhaps did not have at least a little background. Some books I have like GM Kang Uk Lee TSD uses different phonetics than something published in the US and this is a good thing to know. Respectfully, George _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:47:52 +0800 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Training in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi folks, we are currently setting up the website for the Sang Moo International Training Center in Korea at http://www.sangmookwan.com/ If you are interested in *really* training in Korea, and not just visiting tourist attractions and taking a few nice pictures, I can recommend this place highly (maybe the fact that I train there myself has something to do with it ;-) ). Want to know more about the programma, don't hesitate to mail me your questions. Larger groups can get discounts. People connected to the IHF and with the proper time invested in training can take their dan- exam if they want to. -- mvg. Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Luttrell To: dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] you say tomato, I say tomoto Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello, I usually just hang out and learn as much from the list as you can when you do that but ocassionally I throw my 3 cents in and well here it is today! I have heard both pronunciations from various styles of martial artist and with varying degrees of experience. I dont think that it really makes any difference as to the legitamacy of the martial artist or his experience. I have heard both pronunciations from many different nationalities also. It doesnt really suprise me that 2 people might pronounce the same word differetly. The old "you say tomato, I say tomoto" thing. I would technically say that it is Dahn since the Korean and japanese languages charactors are pronounced that way but I dont think it matters that much. It just really depends on who is the pronunciator. On another note, I am wondering what other TKD practitioners think about olympic rules compared to sport karate rules? which do you prefer or maybe there are some out there like me who prefer both? How many TKD people out there compete in open tournaments compared to TKD tournaments? thanks, Visit The Martial Artist Foundation Official Website at http://www.sporttkd.com or join The Martial Artist Foundation Yahoo Group for free and keep up to e on Events: ="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themartialartistfoundation/join"> --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] conference on the Park era Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT: International Korean Studies Conference 2004 11 and 12 November 2004 THE UNIVERSITY OF WOLLONGONG, N.S.W, Australia The Park Era: A Reassessment After 25 Years 2004 marks the 25th year since Park's assassination, and yet his legacy lives on, underlining the position of great importance the Park era holds in South Korea's development as a nation. The Republic of Korea has been guided by five administrations over the past 25 years, but among these it is the Park administration that marks the turning point in Korea's modernization, and South Korea today is in many respects the product of that era. The Park regime was, furthermore, a central player and agent in the political, economic and social conflicts that mark the period and drew much of the world's attention to the peninsula. It is therefore essential to our understanding of South Korea as a modern democracy and economic powerhouse that we reassess this administration. We are delighted to announce the details of our forthcoming international conference and we very much look forward to your attendance at this important event. We have an excellent line-up of speakers to discuss and reflect upon some of the key questions that need to be examined about how Korean culture, psychology, democracy and national infrastructure has come to be what it is today. For full details and conference registration, please visit our website: http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/iksc2004/index.html It would be appreciated if you would forward this invite on to other interested colleagues who may not be included on our email listings. Kind regards, June Aspley Faculty of Arts Research Development Officer University of Wollongong Press Administrative Officer and Administrative Officer for the International Korean Studies Conference 2004 email: june@uow.edu.au fax: 61 (02) 42-213179 phone: 61 (02) 42215581 Wollongong NSW 2500 Australia --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:25:12 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Tang Soo Do forms and History Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The book translated in the Korean library was the Moo Yei Do Bo Tong Ji from which the the Yuk Ro Hyungs developed not the Pyung Ahn Hyungs or the Nai han ji Hyungs or others like Kong Song Koon. Chil Sang Hyungs and the Kee Cho Hyungs were created by Hwang Kee Kwan Jang Nim. As for the Tang Soo Do Name you are correct that others taught under the name Tang Soo Do, however they did not teach the same techniques known to us as Tang Soo Do. The Words Tang Soo Do are a generic term like Karate. Not just a reference to the Tang dynasty. Of those original Kwans, Hwang Kees Moo Duk Kwan was the only one to survive the political movement by General Choi and keep the name Tang Soo Do. It is at that time the Name Tang Soo Do became more than a generic term and was recognized as a particular style developed by Hwang Kee Kwan Jang Nim. Respectfully; JC --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest