Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:01:50 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #407 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Bruce Han bok (George Peters) 2. Rank above 5th dan (George Peters) 3. Chuseok (Ray Terry) 4. Chuseok, 2 (Ray Terry) 5. Dodger Demo (Master Arce) 6. GM Ji Dobok (Beungood8@aol.com) 7. Re: Re: Modified Hanbok (Kip McCormick) 8. Re: GM Ji Dobok (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:19:56 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Bruce Han bok Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, I am very interested in the address you refered to on the han bok. Could/would you describe the "modified" han bok you made comment on in your post, as this sounds very interesting. Is this as comfortable and does it permit freedom of motion as well as a Do bahk? Respectfully, George _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:49:27 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Rank above 5th dan Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, In our org, everyone has new material to learn for their new rank ie;forms, self defense requirements etc. 5th dan and up are usually invovled in administraitive roles, but not always. This would seem to mostly be a matter of choice. You made comment on if Funikoshi Sensei was a slow learner. It has become evident to me throughout training that there is always much to be learned about a hyung. There are times when it may be quite some time before power transfer, non-obvious applications of techniques, etc. become evident. It seems there is always more to learn, even in the most simple of things. I had a 1st dan get very frustrated not long ago, saying " I thought I KNEW this material". I did my best to explain to him that if you are 1st dan, then you are expected to understand as a 1st dan. At a higher rank, one is expected to have a more "in depth" understanding of technique and also a better proficiency with same. With the aforementioned in mind, is it possible that the earlier masters took longer in learning in order to have a greater mastery before "moving on"? Respectfully, George _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Chuseok Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net South Koreans Head to Hometowns for 'Chuseok' Holiday SEOUL, Sept. 25 -- South Koreans headed for their hometowns in growing numbers Saturday ahead of "Chuseok," Korea's fall harvest holiday, which falls next week. The government estimated that around 40 million out of the country's population of 48 million will be on the road at some time during the three-day holiday period. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Chuseok, 2 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net "Chuseok" is upon us, arriving this month's weekend of the 25th. In case you're relatively new to Korea, Chuseok is roughly similar to North America's Thanksgiving, but with some significant differences. Like our Christmas, Chuseok is the biggest holiday on the Korean calendar, and is a family time. People of all different religions (Christian, Buddhist, and even Atheists) go to their ancestors' graves and pray for them and offer them food (of course the ghosts don't eat it, but it's important to make the gesture). If you're a foreigner with Korean friends, you can just about forget about seeing them. They're likely to be spending much of the holiday either with their family or resting after hard work. Working hard on a holiday? Yes. The women work hard preparing the food for both the living and the dead, and the men - um - I'm not sure. If you're a foreigner and want to socialize, your best bets are your foreign friends. Also, mind the fact that many restaurants may be closed, although this isn't as much of a problem nowadays as when I first came to Korea many years ago. Another thing that has changed since I first came here is the number of people in Seoul during the holidays. Students or Korean friends might tell you that during Chuseok, Seoul becomes a ghost town, and this used to be true, but not anymore. It seems that more and more Seoulites are choosing to stay in Seoul rather than brave the traffic jams that inevitably happen when millions of people simultaneously try to leave, and later, re-enter, the city. And can you blame them? Some students have told me stories of being trapped in their four-wheeled metal boxes for twelve hours or more! It gives new meaning to the old children's line: "Are we there yet?" Written by Richard Stansfield The writer has been living and teaching English in Seoul since July, 1996. He currently teaches at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies' Foreign Language Teaching and Training Center. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Master Arce To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Dodger Demo Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Sharon. Will that be Grand Master Chong Su Kim and his Dojang? http://www.kimshapkido.com/grand.htm :) thanks, Steve Do San Dojang (My Dojang is just 05 Minutes West of Dodger Stadium on Sunset Blvd.! I live in Silver Lake, which is right down the Blvd. from the Stadium's Public Entrance) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:35:24 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] GM Ji Dobok Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 9/25/2004 7:11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Gm Ji came up with a hanbok-ish uniform for Sin Moo Hapkido a few years > (4?) ago. I understand the first batch were polyester and, thus, rather > hot. I believe that was fixed in the second batch. > > I was given one of these "second generation" uniforms and found them to be very well made. They were cut well,plenty of room in the seat. They were a very comfortable uniform to train in and I liked the kleg ties as they restrained the cuffs from curling around your heels when kicking. I cannot remember the company that was contracted to manufacture them but they would not sell them to the public at the time. I think they can be bought on GM Ji's website. Jack --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Kip McCormick" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Modified Hanbok Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:20:58 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net And at my high school prom, I had a powder blue polyester tux, trim of black on the ruffles. The jacket closed by my choker chain around my neck, and the lapels were wider than Timo's flared bell bottom blue jeans. My traditional belt, white...which matched my shoes...was stylin' as I danced to "Abba" and "Saturday Night Fever." As I danced, I realized that my tux, too, was rather hot. Hence, to this day, I refuse to do martial arts in a powder blue tux. Have a great weekend and if you're in Korea celebrating Chuesok, STAY AT HOME!!! (John Johnson, I KNOW your Seoul hang outs -- drink some soju for me, buddy!) The traffic is horrible and you can hang with your Korean friends, celebrating one of the best holidays of the year. Cheers, y'all. Kip >From: Ray Terry >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Modified Hanbok >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:16:37 -0700 (PDT) > > > The uniform is Navy Blue polyester (12oz?? 14oz??) > > with a trim of black on the lapels. Rather than being > > closed with frogs down the front (after the fashion of > > Chinese uniforms), the jacket closes left-over-right > > with internal strings to secure the flaps and the > > traditional belt around the waist. > >Gm Ji came up with a hanbok-ish uniform for Sin Moo Hapkido a few years >(4?) ago. I understand the first batch were polyester and, thus, rather >hot. I believe that was fixed in the second batch. > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 1700 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] GM Ji Dobok To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > the cuffs from curling around your heels when kicking. I cannot remember the > company that was contracted to manufacture them but they would not sell them > to the public at the time. I think they can be bought on GM Ji's website. Last I heard tho, proceeds from sales through that website did not go to Gm Ji. I don't know if all the legal issues were ever worked out. Anyone have up-to-date info? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest