Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 03:01:54 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #411 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Martial Arts Festival in Korea (Klaas Barends) 2. Re: Do bok question-- Melinda (Bruce Sims) 3. Not Military? (FRANK CLAY) 4. breaking with a spearhand thrust (gaby noufaily) 5. translations (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 6. October Seminar (Braeswood Martial Arts) 7. traditional Dobok (Eddie Urbistondo) 8. Re: translations (Ray Terry) 9. Re: breaking with a spearhand thrust (Ken) 10. Re: breaking with a spearhand thrust (Jordan) 11. Re: breaking with a spearhand thrust (Jye nigma) 12. Re: breaking with a spearhand thrust (Ken) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:36:30 +0800 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Martial Arts Festival in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In the upcoming weekend a big international Martial Arts festival will take place in Korea for the 7th time. Has anyone ever been there before? Is it worth a visit? http://www.martialarts.or.kr/ for more information. -- mvg. Klaas Barends Dutch H.K.D Federation http://www.hapkido.nl/ International H.K.D Training Center http://www.sangmookwan.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 02:44:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Do bok question-- Melinda Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Melinda: ".....Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy www.cjmaa.com 1.573.673.2769 Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply www.cjmas.com 1.877.847.4072......" I still have the Han bok-styled Do bok that I purchased from you a little while back. 1.) Were you ever able to find a uniform of similar styling that was made of a bit heavier material? 2.) Were you ever able to secure the same uniform that I purchased without the embroidered HDGD patch on it already? Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "FRANK CLAY" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:34:24 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Not Military? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> I don't think I agree with this. I can remember more than once taking off my BDU top and rolling up my pants legs when we got to Cat 4 and 5 heat. Frank --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "gaby noufaily" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:48:44 +0200 Subject: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net hello everyone, I would like to tell me what are the exercises that help me to break a wooden board by using the spearhand thrust. thanks in advance for your help. gaby  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:40:57 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] translations Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kip Your right about multiple meanings for a particular word. Soo Bahk in the ancient records was a martial or military term referring to the warrior techniques practiced, and is where the art Soo Bahk Do got its name. In Korea now the words Soo Bahk means Watermelon. This happened because of the modern Korean language not being very old, the Japanese occupation, and the Chinese influence. Thanks for your insight but as you suggested I think everyone understood what I was trying to say. Respectfully; JC --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:50:23 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] October Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kat Kelly and Braeswood Martial Arts would like to remind you that as you are making your October calendars... please make sure to include our Texas Master's Tour for October 23rd in Houston TX Masters to include but I am sure are not limited to: Master Richard Hodder Master Troy Smith Master Don Kirsch Master Jason Thomas I have heard rumors of some other masters who may stop by... you don't want to miss this event it is sure to be great. BMAC to supply BBQ after seminar (byob) Come enjoy the fun and southern hospitality. Registration forms can be found at http://www.braeswoodmartialart.com/Sem.htm Register early and save $15.00 Y'all come on down... :) Kat --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Eddie Urbistondo" To: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:17:38 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] traditional Dobok Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My opinion on uniforms is.....WHO CARES. I believe in modern times, dojangs should wear whatever uniform fits their needs. In my opinion, traditional training is the fighting techniques and forms of an art that you teach. If you train in weapons, the traditional Dobok would not be efficient. eddie --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] translations To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > now the words Soo Bahk means Watermelon. This happened because of the modern > Korean language not being very old, the Japanese occupation, and the Chinese > influence. Why do you feel the korean language is not very old? Do you perhaps mean korean writing, hangul, instead of the korean language? Hangul is only about six hundred years old, dating from the reign of King Sejong. But koreans have used (modified) chinese writing to express their unique language for over 2,000 years. Japan may have even used this modfied chinese writing as a model for creating their own written language. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Ken" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:53:37 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I use to strenghten my fingers by doing finger tip push-ups Don't know if this will help but I was always taught that the spear-hand was for soft area stiking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gaby noufaily" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust hello everyone, I would like to tell me what are the exercises that help me to break a wooden board by using the spearhand thrust. thanks in advance for your help. gaby ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 1700 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Jordan" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:11:37 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I use to strenghten my fingers by doing finger tip push-ups Don't know if > this will help but I was always taught that the spear-hand was for soft area > stiking. That may be how it is most commonly used, but I have no doubt that it can be developed for much more. We have a photograph in my dojang of my grand master using a kwon-soo strike to break a stack of roofing tiles when he was helping a friend re-roof his house in Korea, many years ago. So, I believe it can be done. Finger-tip push-ups are probably one good way, but there's also the cliché method of strengthening a strike by using it on a bucket of loose sand. Spear-hand strike down into it and maintaining strength in your hand (not bending/buckling fingers.) This isn't from first-hand knowledge, since I've never gotten very proficient with a spear-hand. So, if you DO manage to break with it, Gaby, get it on digital video and post it somewhere to share with us. :) --Jordan Wagner --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net whoa...lol. you need years of PROPER conditioning similar to iron palm training. Actually, in my opinion, to even start with, you need to begin with iron palm training, and then move onto the fingertips. Both of which require years to reach the desired goal. a broad example of exercises are spearhand strikes in sand, dirt, small beans, working your way up to rocks and buck shot. Jye gaby noufaily wrote: hello everyone, I would like to tell me what are the exercises that help me to break a wooden board by using the spearhand thrust. thanks in advance for your help. gaby __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Ken" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:42:53 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net that's why most schools and instructors teach it as a soft area strike, as I had said .It takes yrs. also to learn to break with a ridge hand as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jye nigma" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] breaking with a spearhand thrust > whoa...lol. you need years of PROPER conditioning similar to iron palm training. Actually, in my opinion, to even start with, you need to begin with iron palm training, and then move onto the fingertips. Both of which require years to reach the desired goal. a broad example of exercises are spearhand strikes in sand, dirt, small beans, working your way up to rocks and buck shot. > > Jye > > > gaby noufaily wrote: > hello everyone, I would like to tell me what are the exercises that help > me to break a wooden board by using the spearhand thrust. thanks in > advance for your help. gaby > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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