Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:48:05 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #441 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 1700 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: RE: soft breaking (Duncan Shewan) 2. Re: RE: soft breaking (Jye nigma) 3. (no subject) (Moe) 4. Woman's Self-Defense (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 5. Interesting article on how the koreans are spreading their martial arts. (Jason Thomas (Y!)) 6. list of names (Ray Terry) 7. Re: list of names (Dante) 8. Re: list of names (Ray Terry) 9. Measured Excess: Status, Gender and Consumer (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Duncan Shewan" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: soft breaking Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:21:30 +0100 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Players to the game is a term the Dragon Society came up with. Most people use some . Extra things you can use to improve power/effectiveness of strikes. A Ki ahp is one, proper stance, intent, broken rhythm and lots more there are about a hundred. We all know the above will make your strikes more powerfull, but you can quite easily add another five or ten. Some add a lot more power than others like waveform and some seem just wierd like feng shui or colour projection. A lot of the players are related to pressure point strikes and seem to be rules in what way/order to strike them. The Dragon Society bill themselves as something of a consuntancy group for martial arts, they will teach anyone. Thier material I believe mainly comes from Ryuku(sp?) Kempo. They are headed by Rick Moneymaker and Tom Muncy and the infamous Rich Mooney(of no touch Knock out fame) is a member. They do teach a lot of far out wierd stuff but my masters have learned some great things from them, take from them what you want. Ive had a lot of success with some of thier tecniques and very little with others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:10 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: soft breaking > << something the Dragon Society teach, I realise they have a bad rep and a lot > of folks think what they teach is rubbish but because of them I can now > break bricks and boards(standard wood and rebrakeable white, blue, black) > with a one inch punch. Ki certainly comes into it as does good stances and > things like waveform(double hip), mind breath body, colour projection and a > whole host of other wierd things.>>> > > > > Could you elaborate a little more? What does the term "players to the game" > mean? And, who is this Dragon Society? > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information > intended only for the use of the individual or entities named above. 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Receipt of this > communication by any party shall not be deemed a waiver of any legal > privilege of any type whatsoever as such privilege may relate to the sender. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 1700 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:58:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: soft breaking To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net dragon society as in count daunte? or as in ashida kim's? Jye "Stovall, Craig" wrote: <>> --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Moe" To: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:19 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Sir, I want to thank you for your great insights on this "self-defense" email that has been circulating, as a copy was recently forwarded to me. As the mother of two teen daughters I find myself harping daily at them on the necessity of keeping their eyes open and listening to their instincts. Your words about the likelyhood of an attack coming from a person who takes advantage of drunkenness or uses drugs to sedate a woman bear repeating--I worked for a time with our area's Sexual Assult Services and heard many stories of women "blacking out" after just a few drinks and waking a day or two later knowing that they have been assulted but unable to remember a single detail. Many times these crimes go unreported because the victim cannot relate any details and has a strong fear of finding out what really happened--many of these people feel that it is better not to know, and sadly the attacker carries on with impunity. One other thing that Master Dewitt mentioned in last recently that also needs to be noted--the danger a woman puts herself into when she walks around with a cell phone glued to her ear. If she is talking she is not fully aware of her immediate surroundings. A beautiful young woman from our area was abducted from a mall parking lot in broad daylight as she talked to her boyfriend on her cell phone, her last known words being "Oh my God" as she was grabbed. It took months to find her body. Her suspected attacker awaits trial. On a lighter note, my aunt was leaving a downtown business one might a few winters ago, and as was her habit looked in her back seat before opeing the car door. She could see someone laying in the back seat so she ran to the nearest building, a bar, and asked for help. Several men, loaded for bear and powered by liquid courage, stormed her car with the intent of overhauling the offender. They jerked her back door open and proceeded to beat the snot out of the snowmobile suit her husband had laid across the back seat. True story. Cindy Moe DeWitt Martial Arts Brainerd MN --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:43:07 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Woman's Self-Defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I too, teach a Woman's Self-Defense class. I have been teaching the class for about 15 years. You are right on the money with your last post. We that teach these classes have to be realistic or all we do is create a false since of security. JC --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Jason Thomas \(Y!\)" To: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:01:30 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Interesting article on how the koreans are spreading their martial arts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I found this article and thought some of the seed points might be worthy of discussion. The article speaks specifically about how Kumdo is affecting Kendo, but has quite a bit on the theory of how Dojang are becoming more popular than the Dojo. It speaks a little about TKD and Hapkido. This link is: http://www.kendo-world.com/articles/web/korea/index.php Regards, Jason --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] list of names Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a heads-up. Our chubby grandmaster wannabe friend from down Florida-way shows the following names as being a part of his new HKD organization. They may want to take action to have their name removed. Ray ==================================================================== NAME LOCATION PHONE CANADA Dayo Odesanya Toronto, Ontario (416) 854-5317 Carl Tate Calgary, Alberta Ph:403-284-2251 COLOMBIA Luis Abelardo Vega Buitrago Bogota Ph: 0916600124 - 091 6807086 Juan Bautista Castaneda Bogota Ph: 538894 Blademir Bermudez Cardona Cali Ph: 448038 - 4430984 Raul Cardona Cali 5573939 Alfonso Rodriguez Diaz Bogota 249-5246 Alonso Fernandes Cali 558-0734 Jaime Garcia Cali 680-9230 Divar A. Chicanaga Cali Ph: 4424013 Carlos Alberto Escobar Gonzales Cali Ph: 3377588 - 6648711 Jacinto Mendez Guzman Cali Ph: 8808665 - 6682020 James Henao Cali Ph: 33347454 Miguel de Jesus Londono Ibague Ph: 2642875 Pedro Gaitan Mendoza Cali Ph: 3270598 - 3384515 Manuel Antonio Leal Monsalve San Jose de Cucuta - Santander del Norte Ph:097-5739405 Cell: 310-3027836 Mauricio Mendez Moreno Cali - Valle Ph: 3270598 - 3384515 Fabian Mauricio Riveros Moyano Bogota Ph: 091 2130766 William Alfonso Ortiz-Fontecha Bogota, Colombia (091)720-0611 Fernando Rene Rivas Pachon Bogota Ph: 0912200839 Carlos Hurtado Pino Popayan 282-24631 Ingoviel Eduardo Plaza Templo Vegetal Sakroakuario 3102534931 Libardo Mauricio Potosi Cali, Valle Ph: 6809230 - 3347454 Edison Puentes Buga 3104652457 Uriel Restrepo Buga 092-228-2198 Carlos Santiago Zarate Salazar Cali Ph: 0924491215 Edgar Coaji Zarate Yumbo Ph: 6908635 - 6908645 ENGLAND Michael Barron (Official U.K. Representative) Norfolk, England 1-603-493266 Patricia Opie Norfolk, England 1-603-493266 ECUADOR Gabriel Zarate (National Representative Ecuador) Guayaquil 5934-2304084 SINGAPORE Lim, Beng Kit Sembawang 65-9778121 Lim, Beng Kit Kallang 65-97778121 Tan Sar Bee Sunny Chua Chu Kang Rd 67655720 Tan Sar Bee Sunny Jalan Eunos 68426337 Tan Sar Bee Sunny River Valley Rd 68369098 USA Ed Annibale Green Bay, WI (920) 499-2240 Steve M. Arce Los Angeles, CA 323-665-4414 Ken Baker Leavenworth, KS (913) 684-7151 Walter Bond Savannah, GA (912) 691-2857 Steve Bowman Boynton Beach, FL (561) 543-0707 Joseph Connolly Orlando, Florida 321-287-9590 Dennis Corn Hendersonville, NC (828) 696-2525 Gregory Glover Staten Island, NY (718) 816-6066 Tommy Lunsford Athens, GA 706-353-7743 Ryoichi Miyahara Langhorne, PA (215) 741-4857 Danny Morgan Madisonville TN (423) 442-6382 Charles M. Nestor Denton, TX (940)381-5308 Darren Norris Etowah, NC 828-692-3863 Dan Piller Aurora, CO 303-699-5462 Gary Pointer (US Rep) Miramar, Florida 954-559-6497 Stuart Rosenberg Cherry Hill, NJ 856 414-1252 Ed Samane Westchester, PA 610-547-4004 Fred Soto, Ph.D. Apopka, FL (321) 206-8129 Ronald R. Suggs Rainier, OR (360) 423-4971 Kenneth Winthrop Las Vegas, NV (702) 279-1763 K.W. Woo Alexandria, VA (703) 313-8804 K.W. Woo Woodbridge, VA (703) 491-9991 Mi Yi Ocoee, FL (407) 654-0555 --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dante To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] list of names Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Terry, Thanx for the heads up. I can assure you that Dan Piller of Aurora, Co. my partner at Ki Martial Arts, is not a part of the organization. He tested at the debacle in Florida, spent almost a year trying to get his KHF rank, finally done with the help of John Johnson and personal calls to Korea, and then only receiving 1st Dan after testing for and allegedly receiving his 3rd. However, accordiing to the KHF, if he paid several hundred more dollars.......... Please let me know where this list may be viewed. Thank you. Peace Dante James -----Original Message----- From: Ray Terry Sent: Oct 20, 2004 12:04 PM To: The_Dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] list of names Just a heads-up. Our chubby grandmaster wannabe friend from down Florida-way shows the following names as being a part of his new HKD organization. They may want to take action to have their name removed. Ray ==================================================================== NAME LOCATION PHONE CANADA Dayo Odesanya Toronto, Ontario (416) 854-5317 Carl Tate Calgary, Alberta Ph:403-284-2251 COLOMBIA Luis Abelardo Vega Buitrago Bogota Ph: 0916600124 - 091 6807086 Juan Bautista Castaneda Bogota Ph: 538894 Blademir Bermudez Cardona Cali Ph: 448038 - 4430984 Raul Cardona Cali 5573939 Alfonso Rodriguez Diaz Bogota 249-5246 Alonso Fernandes Cali 558-0734 Jaime Garcia Cali 680-9230 Divar A. Chicanaga Cali Ph: 4424013 Carlos Alberto Escobar Gonzales Cali Ph: 3377588 - 6648711 Jacinto Mendez Guzman Cali Ph: 8808665 - 6682020 James Henao Cali Ph: 33347454 Miguel de Jesus Londono Ibague Ph: 2642875 Pedro Gaitan Mendoza Cali Ph: 3270598 - 3384515 Manuel Antonio Leal Monsalve San Jose de Cucuta - Santander del Norte Ph:097-5739405 Cell: 310-3027836 Mauricio Mendez Moreno Cali - Valle Ph: 3270598 - 3384515 Fabian Mauricio Riveros Moyano Bogota Ph: 091 2130766 William Alfonso Ortiz-Fontecha Bogota, Colombia (091)720-0611 Fernando Rene Rivas Pachon Bogota Ph: 0912200839 Carlos Hurtado Pino Popayan 282-24631 Ingoviel Eduardo Plaza Templo Vegetal Sakroakuario 3102534931 Libardo Mauricio Potosi Cali, Valle Ph: 6809230 - 3347454 Edison Puentes Buga 3104652457 Uriel Restrepo Buga 092-228-2198 Carlos Santiago Zarate Salazar Cali Ph: 0924491215 Edgar Coaji Zarate Yumbo Ph: 6908635 - 6908645 ENGLAND Michael Barron (Official U.K. Representative) Norfolk, England 1-603-493266 Patricia Opie Norfolk, England 1-603-493266 ECUADOR Gabriel Zarate (National Representative Ecuador) Guayaquil 5934-2304084 SINGAPORE Lim, Beng Kit Sembawang 65-9778121 Lim, Beng Kit Kallang 65-97778121 Tan Sar Bee Sunny Chua Chu Kang Rd 67655720 Tan Sar Bee Sunny Jalan Eunos 68426337 Tan Sar Bee Sunny River Valley Rd 68369098 USA Ed Annibale Green Bay, WI (920) 499-2240 Steve M. Arce Los Angeles, CA 323-665-4414 Ken Baker Leavenworth, KS (913) 684-7151 Walter Bond Savannah, GA (912) 691-2857 Steve Bowman Boynton Beach, FL (561) 543-0707 Joseph Connolly Orlando, Florida 321-287-9590 Dennis Corn Hendersonville, NC (828) 696-2525 Gregory Glover Staten Island, NY (718) 816-6066 Tommy Lunsford Athens, GA 706-353-7743 Ryoichi Miyahara Langhorne, PA (215) 741-4857 Danny Morgan Madisonville TN (423) 442-6382 Charles M. Nestor Denton, TX (940)381-5308 Darren Norris Etowah, NC 828-692-3863 Dan Piller Aurora, CO 303-699-5462 Gary Pointer (US Rep) Miramar, Florida 954-559-6497 Stuart Rosenberg Cherry Hill, NJ 856 414-1252 Ed Samane Westchester, PA 610-547-4004 Fred Soto, Ph.D. Apopka, FL (321) 206-8129 Ronald R. Suggs Rainier, OR (360) 423-4971 Kenneth Winthrop Las Vegas, NV (702) 279-1763 K.W. Woo Alexandria, VA (703) 313-8804 K.W. Woo Woodbridge, VA (703) 491-9991 Mi Yi Ocoee, FL (407) 654-0555 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 1700 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Dante J. James, Esq. Project Director AA-VIP 303-830-1105 Change is Inevitable, Growth is Optional VOTE - Your future depends on it! --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] list of names To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Thanx for the heads up. I can assure you that Dan Piller of Aurora, Co. > my partner at Ki Martial Arts, is not a part of the organization. He > tested at the debacle in Florida, spent almost a year trying to get his > KHF rank, finally done with the help of John Johnson and personal calls to > Korea, and then only receiving 1st Dan after testing for and allegedly > receiving his 3rd. However, accordiing to the KHF, if he paid several > hundred more dollars.......... Please let me know where this list may be > viewed. Thank you. Peace http://koreahapkidofederation.com/schools.htm Ray --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Measured Excess: Status, Gender and Consumer Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Measured Excess: Status, Gender and Consumer Nationalism in South Korea, by Laura Nelson. New York: Columbia University Press, 2000. 224 pages. ISBN: 0-2311-1617-9.; $18.50 (paper). reviewed by Mikyeong Bae Keimyung University baemik@kmu.ac.kr [This review first appeared in Acta Koreana, 6.1 (2003): 31-34. Acta Koreana is published by Academia Koreana of Keimyung University.] The author of Measured Excess, Laura C. Nelson, argues that South Korea's identity has been as much tied to notions of the future as it is rooted in a recollection of the past. She offers an insightful analysis of the ways in which South Korean economic development strategies have reshaped the country's national identity. Especially, she indicates that South Korean's consumption is mainly rooted in a concept of national unity. Nelson also asserts that the government casts women as a group whose 'excessive desires' for material goods endangers this national unity. In the introduction and chapter 1, the author examines how South Korean's sense of national identity motivated much of the hard work of development beginning in the 1960s and continuing through the early 1990s and how intersections between international economic processes, the flow of time, and the mundane experience of life shape and strain the sense of national mission. In this chapter, the author asserts that South Korea's industrial concentration was mainly caused by the dominance of the 'chaeb=F4l'. She describes South Korea's dramatic economic development as being related to the existence of 'chaeb=F4l' and an emphasis on national identity for the past 30 years. =46rom the 1960s until the early 1980s, the government fostered a particular kind of economic development, namely, export-oriented industrialization dominated by a few enormous corporations. The success of this strategy was remarkable, and the trick was to make the industrialization process appear to be a national project with benefits that would accrue not just to the 'chaeb=F4l' and wealthy individuals, but to the nation as a whole. The people were asked to make sacrifices, to work long hours for poor pay for un-elected governments that offered rewards to the rich, and to expect little for themselves. In fact, Nelson insists that the accomplishments of this period were motivated by a potent elixir of nationalism and hope that was widely held throughout the population. This nationalism always has an effect on consumption and the consumer in South Korea. As South Korean consumers encountered an increasingly complex market, they relied on their sense of identification with the nation. Consumers set themselves the larger task of making consumer choices that were in the best interests of the nation. In addition, the emphasis on an imagined future reunification of both Korea as the site of the real nation was also fuel for South Korean nationalism. In chapter 2, Nelson focuses on the city life of Seoul as a factor in the formation of national, class, and gendered identities. She shows that people's experience of Seoul as a place to live and the effects of the real estate market on people's lives are important points for consumer practices. That is, Seoul's physical changes mapped and mirrored South Korea's economic and social transformation. People constantly sought points of orientation in Seoul's ever changing space. The new shape of the city altered the terms of social interaction and created new foundations for the experience of class, gender, and nation. In chapter 3, the author looks in more detail at the interaction between local consumer patterns, drawing out the particularities of how consumers have been formed and how certain forms of consumption itself make the nation. She observed that the elaboration of the market and the culture of consumption in South Korea were rapid and pervasive. The material environment and the consumer culture demonstrated to South Koreans that the nation had been developed. Mass marketing generated an image of mass culture, mass consumption, and consumer equality. The author, however, indicated that consumer opportunities and choices were divergent in various ways, and through their experiences South Korean generated new views of the emergent consumer culture. In chapter 4, Nelson examines the discursive reaction, 'kwasobi ch'ubang', to social and material changes, looking at how popular themes and government slogans intersect. The author asserts that appropriate consumption was a moral issue with a long history in South Korea. Especially, the author explores the discursive field of frugality and over-consumption, and examines the forms and sources of this discourse. While normal constructions of appropriate and patriotic consumption can be traced back to the pre-colonial period, in recent decades frugality has been represented as a strategy for national economic development, a moral practice of cultural preservation from the corruption of luxury and modernization, and a means of defending the nation from international shame and economic ruin. The author concludes that 'kwasobi' discourse in South Korea has explicitly tied individual lifestyles to the national destiny. In chapter 5, the author focuses on the ways in which gender and patriotism have become intertwined in the South Korean focus on consumer practices and choices, especially the 'kwasobi ch'ubang'. The author points to the variety of threats consumption poses to the sense of South Korean national unity and analyses South Korean women's social roles, consumption practices, and patriotism. Women in South Korea are actively engaged in the maintenance as well as the transformation of cultural ideas and practices. Women charged with enacting the ideals of proper consumer patriotism, found themselves on the front lines, facing the incongruities between the present and the past. In the final chapter, the author revisits these issues in the light of the Asian Crisis that began in 1997. The consumer nationalism in South Korea incurs the complexity of interrelations between state, nation, and community; between identities and ideologies; between localities and the globalized world. It is useful to bear in mind in how many different ways people in one locality can engage a discursive field, even one as pervasive as 'kwasobi'. The author concludes that in South Korea, political projects have been tied to the mobilization of a nationalistic material desire and the advocating of frugality. Ongoing contradictions between these positions were negotiated through a particularly gendered patriotism, where women were charged with making choices about how to carry out this program. Citation: Bae, Mikyeong 2004 Measured Excess: Status, Gender and Consumer Nationalism in South Korea, by Laura Nelson (2000) Korean Studies Review 2004, no. 18 Electronic file: http://koreaweb.ws/ks/ksr/ksr04-18.htm --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest