Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:54:02 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #451 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 1800 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Board Breaking (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 2. Soft breaking (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Albert Cole (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 4. flow drills (michael tomlinson) 5. Re: handgun defense (Norm Langevin) 6. Found this (Jye nigma) 7. Warriors and soldiers (Burdick, Dakin R) 8. AAU Taekwondo Newsletter for October 2004 (fwd) (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:32:16 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Board Breaking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Respectfully' Why break at all? I have practiced breaking for many years, and understand that it is a means of measuring focus, correct foot/hand positions, power etc. So if that is the reason why do people add spacers? I will tell you. Its because they want to show off at a demo or claim they broke #!#&!# bricks/boards. Frankly its an embarrassment. Recently I was attending a regional tournament. I was asked to do a demo as were several others. During my demo I broke 5- 2"X8"x16" blocks with no spacers with a open Soo Do. I also taped the hands of two of my senior students and with nine holders broke 7 12"x12"x3/4" #3 pine boards with a sidekick, and again no spacers. This may seem like a lot to some but it is a result of many years of hard training. I was met at the door by a man that addressed me (I had never seen him before) He began to tell me he had broken more and he told me if I added spacers I could too. My response was respectful but I was not trying to exaggerate my ability only to demonstrate it. My point is that to demonstrate power and focus I have no problem with breaking, it can be a good tool. To show more than you are by rigging the demo with spacers or some other means is not showing one of the martial artists best traits HONESTY JC --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:41:09 -0400 From: Rudy Timmerman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Soft breaking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles writes: > If you are really interested in this type of striking, get it from the > (a qualified) source. Thank you Sir. It was fun for me too:) Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:36:53 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Albert Cole Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Terry; I agree we are most likely talking about two different people. JC --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:25:53 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] flow drills Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Mark, You took the words right out of my mouth!! I say this same thing during class all the time. When we practice punch or knife flow drills I am always saying that "this is the time for you to also practice your attacking techniques instead of just being an attacking dummy and waiting for your turn to defend"... very very true... Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:37 -0400 From: Norm Langevin To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] handgun defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Morning, Just thought that I would add my $0.02 worth. I personally feel that more than carrying a handgun for protection and knowing how to hit the broad side of a barn with it, an individual needs to have the mindset to actually fire at another human being with it. As an example. I was outside of a fairly rough bar one night that had been cleared due to a multi-participant brawl. The first officer on the scene came out of her cruiser with her sidearm drawn (a very good call in my opinion). As one of the brawlers approached her she ordered him to the ground while pointing her sidearm at him. Instead of complying, he continued to advance to within striking range. When the officer again ordered him to the ground he simply punched her square in the face and took her gun which he began to wave around over his head. Fortunately for everyone two other officers had arrived by this time and quickly subdued the now armed and drunken brawler. My point here is that, imho, the first officer did not have the experience/training to actually shoot the advancing attacker. I saw this behaviour multiple times in my stint with the military as well. It is a huge leap of conviction to actually pull the trigger when someone does not comply with the threat of a firearm being pointed in their direction. Distance to attacker becomes irrelevant if you are unable to pull the trigger when it counts. Unfortunatley (?), it is difficult to train someone how to overcome the lag time between "Oh, I have to shoot this person" and actually pulling the trigger. Just thought I'd weigh in. Norm. On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:20:37 -0400, Robert Hartley wrote: > Hi. > > I wasn't saying that a handgun is the only option. However, I am saying > that it is an option that is often left out. As a side note, often times > firearms are demonized- how many articles do you read about how a gun "went > off by itself..." Anyway- not all police are as familiar as you may > think. Most have an annual qualification at the range, which does not > include any sort of stress or situational awareness training- just pointing > downrange and trying to hit a stationary target from a stationary position. > > Mr. Terry mentioned that there is a list on the website of firearms > training facilities. I haven't looked yet, but there is one "near" me in > NH, called the Lethal Force Institute. It is run by a man who has been a > police officer, among other things. He has also authored a number of > books, a couple of which I own. While I have yet to attend his school, I > hope to in the future- my understanding is that you get some training on > hitting a target in a no/low stress situation, but you also do some more > dynamic training. I think this is some of the most realistic type of > training a person can receive (I have also read of others in the western > part of the country, which do similar training.) > > And, if a woman or elderly person has training in the use of the firearm, I > would disagree that it is likely to be taken from them. However, there are > so many variables in a situation like that, I doubt that either one of us > could come to any conclusion that would convince the other. So, I won't be > arguing that point. > > So, that's my contribution for tonight. Best wishes, all. > > Bob > > >Message: 6 > >From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" > >To: > >Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:49:21 -0500 > >Subject: [The_Dojang] handgun defense > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > >Sir; > > > >A hand gun is an effect weapon but in close combat hand to hand techniques are > >better. The gun is only useful if you have time to pull it out of a purse, > >pocket, or even a holster. The recent discussion about the 21ft rule came > >from a video that shows a study done with police who are trained with their > >gun and in most cases they are more familiar with it than the average citizen. > >You speak of woman, or perhaps the elderly not being able to use hand to hand > >techniques against a large attacker. A gun would likely be taken away from > >them if it was not produced fast enough to use it. The reality is that a gun > >is an effective weapon if you have it out and aimed or at a distance, but > >against a surprise attack there are better alternatives. I have a CHL and I > >am familiar with my gun but if attacked by surprise I doubt I could produce it > >fast enough, and in the process of trying ---what happens if it is knocked out > >of your hand or turned toward you in the struggle. I believe many gum carriers > >have a false since of security and their lack of realism could get them > >killed. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 1800 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Found this Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.glossika.com/en/dict/Korpin.pdf --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:30:30 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin R" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Warriors and soldiers Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Seems I'm in the minority in terms of not liking the term "warrior," but I'm glad to see that no matter what word everyone is using, we're all agreed that our role models should be leaders in peace as well as in times of war. By the way, my posts often come later than most. Sorry about that, but I've been pretty busy. I hope the conversation is still worthwhile. Take care, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] AAU Taekwondo Newsletter for October 2004 (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... Here is your AAU Taekwondo Newsletter for October 2004. AAU Taekwondo competitions feature both Olympic and Point sparring, and traditional Taekwondo forms, including WTF, ITF, and TSD/MDK forms may be performed. For more information visit http://www.aautaekwondo.org In This Issue *Record Year for AAU Taekwondo: *Jean and Steven Lopez Key Note Speakers At AAU Convention *New AAU Insurance Benefits *Tournament & Events Schedule *Record Year for AAU Taekwondo If it seems like every year the AAU Taekwondo sets a new record for individual members and club registrations, well, that's because they do! Here are this past year's record-setting numbers: GOAL ACTUAL Club Registrations 400 417 # Registered Athletes 15,500 16,299 Qualifying Championships 43 44 Athletes participating in Qualifying events 7,000 8,145 Top Three AAU Associations by Membership: Pacific (San Francisco area) 1385 Gulf (Houston, TX area) 1290 Wisconsin 963 *Jean and Steven Lopez Key Note Speakers At AAU Convention On October 2, 2004 Jean Lopez, the American Olympic Taekwondo Coach at the 2004 Olympics in Athens Greece, led off the key note address at the 117th Annual AAU National Convention in Stamford, CT. Jean was warmly received by over 400 attendees who represent all the sports in the AAU family. The AAU is the organization that prior to the Sports Act of the 70s, selected the Olympic Teams and Individuals in all sports from Track and Field, Swimming, Basketball, etc. to represent America in Olympic Competition. The AAU is now the leading Amateur Sports organization in the country with over 500,000 athletes competing in over 30 sports. Many of those in attendance were vaguely familiar with Taekwondo, but have never had the opportunity to experience it first hand. Jean began his address with a short video showing highlights of his brother Steven's Olympic competition in Athens. The video was an amazing introduction to Steven Lopez. The film reflected the bond between Jean and Steven and the joy they both shared from their experience. The film and words spoken by Jean set the stage for Steven to speak. Steven was inspiring! He shared with those in attendance his experiences as a youngster who started Taekwondo at the age of five and by the time he was nine his goal was to compete in the Olympics. That goal became clear to Steven upon watching Taekwondo in the opening ceremonies of the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, Korea. >From then on training took on a new meaning. With the guidance of his brother and the support of his family, training became the focal point of his life. 'The Garage', where his family's training has become legendary, was the no frills environment that helped create the only American two time Olympic Gold Medal winner in Taekwondo. Steven spoke for 45 minutes and inspired all those in attendance. For the rest of the day and at the Convention Dinner that evening, it was a part of everyone's conversation to comment on the humility, character, class, family bond and that million dollar smile that put him in People Magazine as one of the '50 Most Eligible Bachelors in America'. Steven concluded his talk at the AAU convention with the Announcement that a third Gold Medal is his goal for 2008 in Beijing, China. >From AAU Taekwondo and the entire AAU Family we again express our appreciation for Jean and Steven's efforts and support of the AAU. *New AAU Insurance Benefits AAU member clubs have long enjoyed insurance benefits with . And now they enjoy even more benefits. One of the two new AAU club insurance programs is the 'Wrap Around policy' that was designed for the Dojo and in addition to the TEN MILLION LIABILITY insurance limit and the $50,000 participant accident insurance included in the AAU A-Card for $12 the "Wrap around policy" for $395 offers two million liability aggregate limits and adds additional coverage for 24/7 premise liability required under the majority of the landlord lease's including outside sign and sidewalk liability, professional liability, fundraisers liability etc. Also, available is the NEW DIRECTORS & OFFICERS POLICY with a one million liability limit which covers wrongful acts of discrimination, violation of your own sports rules, violation of state or federal laws, IRS Anti-trust, failure to manager the club financial affairs etc. Please visit the AAU web-site for more information and complete the on line new AAU benefit request forms. These new programs are only available to AAU clubs. *Tournament & Events Schedule November 13, 2004 Georgia Fall Tournament (Non-Qualifying Sanctioned Event) Meadowcreek High School Norcross, GA Matted Floor, Electronic Scoring Registration Deadline November 7 Contact: Charles Minter 770-985-0050 November 14, 2004 New Jersey Freedom Cup (Non-Qualifying Sanctioned Event) Healthquest Fitness Center 310 Hwy 31N Flemington, New Jersey Matted Floor, Electronic Scoring Registration Deadline November 8 Contact Kevin Balon 732-254-1214 or Email EBTC@juno.com November 14, 2004 Friendship Tournament (Non-Qualifying Sanctioned Event) San Rafael, CA Contact Bill Dewart 415-864-4827 jidokwantkd@sbcglobal.net February 5, 2005 Spar Wars Double Elimination Point Sparring (Non-Qualifying Sanctioned Event) Kennesaw, GA More information coming soon. Contact James Henry henrytkd@bellsouth.net February 5, 2005 2005 Kentucky AAU Taekwondo Qualifier Louisville, KY More Information Coming Soon! February 26, 2005 2005 Gulf Qualifier Butler Sports Complex Houston, TX February 26, 2005 2005 Oregon AAU Taekwondo Qualifier Jason Lee Middle School Vancouver, WA Contact Ric Gordon 253-377-6595 rick.gordan@gsa.gov February 26, 2005 2005 Potomac Valley AAU Taekwondo Qualifier Mount Saint Mary's College Emmitsburg, Maryland Eight Matted Rings - Electronic Scoring Registration Deadline February 15, 2005 Online Registration at www.matchtool.com Contact Albano da Silva aldasilva@matchtool.com 301-360-9700 March 5, 2005 2005 Region 3 AAU Taekwondo Qualifier Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North and South Carolina Meadowcreek High School Norcross, GA 30093 Eight Matted Rings- Electronic Scoring Click Here For Information, Brochure and Application Registration deadline March 1, 2005 Go to www.tournamentapplication.com to register online. Contact James Henry henrytkd@bellsouth.net or 770-422-1500 March 5, 2004 Rosalio Martinex San Antonio, TX March 12, 2005 2005 Southern Nevada Taekwondo Qualifier Briney Middle School Las Vegas, NV Contact Sue Langdon 702-645-1555 itctkdmom@cox.net March 12, 2005 11 Annual Wisconsin AAU Taekwondo Championship Mukwonago High School 605 W. School Road Mukwonago, WI 53149 Contact Bob Crouch 262-363-0700 or Fax 262-363-8803 April 9, 2005 2005 Ohio AAU Taekwondo Qualifier Veterans Memorial Columbus, OH http://www.geocities.com/ohioaautkd Contact: Deb Confer Email: ohioaautkd@insight.rr.com or call 614-746-0938 April 23, 2005 Region 9 Qualifier Butler Sports Complex Houston, TX April 30, 2005 Region 12 Pacific NW Regional Championship Washington High School Spanaway, WA Contact Rick Gordon 253-931-7384 rick.gordon@gsa.gov July 5-9, 2005 2005 AAU Youth and Adult Taekwondo Nationals Greensboro Coliseum Greensboro, NC 2005 AAU Junior Olympic Games July 27 - August 8, 2005 New Orleans, LA 2006 AAU Youth and Adult Taekwondo Nationals July 4 - 8, 2006 Knoxville, TN 2006 AAU Junior Olympic Games July 26 - August 5, 2006 Hampton Roads, VA 2007 AAU Junior Olympic Games July 25 - August 4, 2007 Knoxville, TN *Order AAU Merchandise Online Need an AAU coach's shirt, AAU patches, pins, ties, training videos, or gup rank certificates? Now you can order them online (no more printing out order forms). Just go to http://www.aautaekwondo.org And get all the things you need! *The AAU Taekwondo Web Site Can Help You Want news, AAU Dan Certification info, tournament results, AAU merchandise, club or individual membership registration, or just the phone number of your Sport Chair? Visit: http://www.aautaekwondo.org ************************************************************** *Special Introductory Offer Exclusively for AAU Members from Summit Flexible Products. Buy 50 or more CardioFlex(tm) or CardioFlex Twin martial art mats and get tapered safety edge strips FREE. Call 888-FOR-MATS or email: summitinfo@aol.com The AAU Taekwondo Newsletter is brought to you by the AAU Taekwondo Program at http://www.aautaekwondo.org Edited by David Mazor --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest