Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 03:01:52 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #488 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 1800 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Roundhouse Kick (Robert Mitchell) 2. Austin Friendship Tourney (Braeswood Martial Arts) 3. sipsamseh (Gladewater SooBahkDo) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Robert Mitchell" To: Subject: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Roundhouse Kick Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:35:20 +1100 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 'Sometime back there was a discussion on SABAKI (?).............ose trading ventures were well-documented in both Burma and Thailand.' For my first post to this net, I am reminded about a piece of information I came across in the mid 80's when researching generally in TKD. It doesn't go to the origin of the kick, just to the Japanese/Korean influence. It was in a piece of writing that was largely anecdotes from one of Funokishi's war-time senior students. Sorry, I can't remember the book or author's name, but two items related made an impression. The author, in a passage explaining how Funokoshi's war time students were graded up to black belt without teaching them Kata, often without even knowing of the existence of Karate Kata, related that initially, Funokoshi taught both front and roundhouse kick with the striking surface being toes tensed and pointed, so that the point of the big toes was the striking point. But that after receiving some Koreans who were impressed into the Imperial Japanese Army, and noticing their ball-of-the-foot striking in both kicks, Funokoshi changed to that style of kick. Around here, most martial styles seem to use the top-of-foot striking style now-a-days. My initial TKD instructor in 1981 taught us that: the toes tensed and pointed version is correct when wearing soft soled shoes as it strengthens the point of the shoe for use as a weapon; the toes pulled back version is good for hard soled shoes, for the same reason, and also bare-foot; and the top of foot version is also good when bare-foot, best in the ring as it is quicker, more able to be hidden, and less dangerous, also best for security work for the same reasons, and because being less dangerous, the security guard has more chance of controlling or taking out the aggressor with less risk of the law suit as a result of broken bones (or worse) that might result from a point of shoe kick. My HKD master teaches the top-of-foot style of roundhouse kick as a basic kick from 10th kup on, and uses it for the ring, but expects black-belts and above to switch to the ball-of-foot style for all applications except the ring. Robert (Australia) --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:03:20 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Austin Friendship Tourney Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Thomas, Thank you for a great day!!!!! All of the competitors from Braeswood Martial Arts had a great time. I too was on the judging panel for the 4 year olds and all judges and scorekeepers were in agreement. 1st place for all. The bbq after was a great sucess as well, and congratulation of the winners of Cranium. It was very gracious of them to not make it a clean sweep and let others play for a few minutes. The juniors also enjoyed you allowing them to play with your PS2 games :) (Thomas wanted me to tell you thanks:) Thanks again for a great weekend and I look forward to returning in April. Kat --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:35:28 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] sipsamseh Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Does anyone have any information on the history of the song of the sip sam she? JC --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest