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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 1800 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. I have to pass this on... (J Thomas Howard) 2. Sabumnim Ralph Estrada (Neal Konecky) 3. MA Mags (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 4. chambering (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 5. Web Site (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 6. Danny Dunn (George Peters) 7. Master Mac (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 8. Re: chambering (Ray Terry) 9. Hapkido names or numbers? (JOHNMAUSA@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 20:52:15 -0600 (CST) From: thomcat@binary.net (J Thomas Howard) Subject: [The_Dojang] I have to pass this on... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I just got this email today, and quite frankly, after staring at it helplessly for awhile, I thought I'd ask for help. I'll explain why, but some part will become immediately obvious after you read the email. Here it is (name taken out to save some embarrassment to someone): -------- Hi Mr. Howard, my name is {****} and I wanted to know if you could help me with finding a school of hapkido because I live in danbury, conneticut, because I'm a non offical 4th dan, I was self taught through books and I want to get an offical rank, I looked up all the test I need to do and I can do them all up to 4th dan. so I wanted to know if you could help me. most likely you wouldn't believe I could be ranking that high counting on the part that I'm only 15, I am a great teacher my self I have three students who are only 9th kubs and beat the black belts from diffrent offical schools. -------- And what can you say to that? :-/ Probably what I'm going to do is send what school information I've got, and gently suggest this individual not walk in saying they are a 4th dan. I'm kind of sorry to do that to some poor school owner, (though some sadistic part of me can't help but laugh at what the look on the instructor's face is going to be like...) but obviously this person needs to go _somewhere_ to be ---um--- "enlightened." Anyway, I have addresses for the following two places in my dojang directory (of course, I don't know CT geography, so for all I know, these schools are hours distant): Name of Dojang: HapKiDo Moo-Ye-Kwan Style: HapKiDo Address: 10 Old Oak Court Bloomfield, CT. 06002 Head Instructor: Master Michael McCarty Rank(s): 5th Dan Contact Phone: (860)242-9398 Contact Email: zachman@prodigy.net Comments: My school is a member of the Korea HapKiDo Association. My Master is Harold L. Whalen, 6th Dan in Quincy, Ma. Name of Dojang: American Hapkido Style: Hapkido Address: 90 Main Street Seymour, CT 06483 Head Instructor: Charles Ehrentraut Rank(s): Master Contact Phone: 203-888-1957 Contact Email: MasterCharlie@americanhapkido.net Comments: We are one of many schools associated with 'Hapkido International' Anyone know any others who could receive this young person? Who hopefully won't just smack him and kick him out? (Tempting though it might be?) I'll note that if either of those two school owners are on this list, I apologize for sending him your way, but he needs to go _somewhere_. I'll note that if anyone does know any other hapkido schools in CT, if you have a minute and can add them to my dojang directory, I would appreciate it: http://hapkido.4t.com/Dojdir.html Thomas ------------------------------------ thomcat@binary.net hapkido.4t.com "If you aren't modeling what you are teaching then you are teaching something else." --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 19:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Neal Konecky To: dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Sabumnim Ralph Estrada Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings all, Does anyone have any knowledge or opinions about Sabumnim Ralph Estrada located in Babylon, NY? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Please respond on or off list. Thank you. Neal Konecky The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments. George Washington --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:28:11 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] MA Mags Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FWIW Another problem with martial arts magazines, seems to be, that martial artist write the articles and send them in, but who knows what their motivations is. Then the editors get the article and by the time it is published it barely resembles the original. Just and opinion! JC --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:36:52 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] chambering Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I read; "Is that the chambering strategy used in Soo Bahk Do?" Explain your question. I am not sure what you are asking. JC PS I agree with the post concerning the difference in Hwang Kee's style. I have heard much of the same from very senior students of Hwang Kee Kwan Jang Nim. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:38:46 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Web Site Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Frank, you said--you didn't know the name of the site you meant. I only suggested that it was Dan Nolan's site you were referring to. Thanks, JC --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:56:34 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Danny Dunn Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, Thank you for the info. Since my funding for books and materials is somewhat limited, I like to have the best resources I can get on my bookshelf. Respectfully, George --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:42:58 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Mac Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Mac, I did realize that Jin Mun Hwang was HC Hwang. Thanks JC --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] chambering To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 08:09:50 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I read; > "Is that the chambering strategy used in Soo Bahk Do?" > > Explain your question. I am not sure what you are asking. The original poster described a chambering strategy supposedly taught in the late 1940s in TSD MDK. Is that chambering strategy used today in SBD? FWIW, when I was doing TSD MDK in the early and mid 1970s we never saw the knee-forward-on-all-kicks strategy. ??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: JOHNMAUSA@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 13:10:58 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido names or numbers? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have been a martial arts student & teacher for more than fifty-years.My primary arts has always been that of judo / yudo. I also hold black-belt ranking in hapkido, yusool, taekwondo. I too agree that we should have a common name for each hapkido technique, regardless of the variations taught. We can find a common ground to do this, even with the many variations. I was judo team captain for the Air Training Command Judo Team back in 1957. I competed for many years and always found one common factor. Regardless of who I competed against or his nationality, we all understood the terminology for each technique and the instructions barked out during a match by the referee or judges! An O-Sot-Gari is the same technique, regardless of the variations or language difference. Can you imagine a judo competition at the World Olympics if every competitor from every country only understood their own language? Otherwise, our referee would have to speak multiple languages and/or swap out at every new match. Put as Russian and Chinese on the mat. Put a Japanese and Pollock on the mat. Put a Iranian and American on the mat. Put a Swede and Indian on the mat. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSAL TERMINALOGY OF JUDO. Judo basically uses Japanese as our universal judo language and it work just fine! Yes, we do need a universal terminology for our hapkido and get rid of reference to technique 5-9-14-18!!!??? Thanks for allowing me to vent. John E. 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