Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:04:22 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 11 #525 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: knee chambers (ChunjiDo@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Names and numbers Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:41:43 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net you say "hap-kee-do", i say "hop-kie-do" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Sims" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Names and numbers > Dear Jere: > > I have to admit that had I any confusion about things > you definitely seemed to have cleared it up for me. > Apparently, according to your post, we will all be > able to communicate as equals regarding the more > technical aspects of Hapkido just as soon as we adopt > some one persons taxonomy. > > OK. > > Everybody has to use mine. :-) > > But of course, you don't want to learn my terminology, --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:43:24 -0600 From: Master Mac To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Foot Pain Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> That's what I have. Makes it difficult to walk on hard floors. Many times when I get up from sitting (or early in the morning) I have to walk around like an old man. It doesn't help that I hurt my big toe on that foot - and a couple of days ago hurt the big toe on my other foot.... Mac (getting old) --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: learning from books, DVD's etc.. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear John et al: Of Course people can learn from books!! We have a multi-billion dollar industry called education that depends to a great degree on learning from books. What most people cannot do is perfect what it is that they are learning. For this we have additional "coaching" provided by teachers. Look-- lets quit kidding ourselves. Sure it would be best if we had a single long-time teacher who didn't BS us, take the money and run, misrepresent himself or what he does or any of a host of other things that a lot of teachers do. I don't pretend that I have been anything but damn lucky to have connected with the folks that I have. But not everyone is that lucky. Out in the netherlands where one crappy school is the only one for miles around its not easy to follow a martial path. And don't pretend like we don't all know the REAL reason Martial Art books sell. As much as we carry on about not learning from books, every person reading this post has gone through books and magazines looking for some bit they don't know. The same can be said for DVD-s and video tapes. If you are a teacher you take that bit and represent it in class as though you knew it all along--- but only after you did it a few times to the air in your office with the door closed. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 4 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:43:18 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] teaching control: pulling punches Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net They can't pull them in time right before contact? Any interesting suggestions out there? _______________________ have them punch at a concrete wall :). they'll learn to pull it or cry trying. take care, melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.673.2769 Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Randall Sexton" To: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:44:31 -1000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Learning from Books, etc. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net << It is my opinion that a person, who has learned it from books, DVD's, etc. and can properly demonstrate all required black belt skills or perform the proper skills at a black belt level, should be promoted or recognized as a black belt within a short period of time. IMHO there should be some recognition for the level of skills they have obtained and they should be promoted to the appropriate level within a short time. What is your view on this matter? Thanks John>> I agree that books, DVDs, etc. are a good learning aid but let me give you an example. I originally learned Taiji directly, then was without an instructor for years. During this time, I used books and DVDs. Now I am back with a teacher and he is showing me how little I know. I swear my body is in correct alignment but he keeps on showing me I'm stupid. Randall Sexton --__--__-- Message: 6 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:46:43 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: knee chambers Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net we learned the side chamber first as "traditional" and then the knee forward chamber later as "sport". so...we had the traditional (fire hydrant) roundhouse and the sport roundhouse. take care, melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.673.2769 Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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