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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 1900 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Music in the MAs (J R Hilland) 2. several items (J R Hilland) 3. RE: Sadness (Randy Mertes) 4. The Arnold (Wilson, Byron) 5. Sun Bae-Hu Bae Definitions (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 6. Master Smith (Frank Clay) 7. sticking hands (J R Hilland) 8. Seniour student (John Merwin) 9. NK Going Into Business (Ray Terry) 10. Jodies (Gladewater SooBahkDo) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:42:03 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Music in the MAs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When I thing of music in a dojang my first thought is the rather comical one of people practicing forms in something that used to once resemble a dobok while screaming, posturing and performing gymnastics. You used to see that on ESPN a lot. But I also am reminded of training in a very traditional Japanese sword dojo many decades ago, that had a big drum in the corner. Much in the way that many aikido dojo start class with the 4 claps and the kihap while they bow in during class, class was started with the drum. Hadn't thought about that in years till you mentioned the drums in the corner. It was a large rascal on a big wooden stand. <<>> --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:05:40 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] several items Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> I would venture to guess that it is the aikido equivalent of sonkyo. Their 3rd locking and pinning technique that they call in the US, a wrist twist. <<>> I have visited the tomb of the founder of hapkido and the town of his birth. Had my wrist nearly broken by his 8th student and I find comfort in not only knowing the Korean terminology, but where it came from, the Korean language and culture. It is part of the history and legacy. Hapkido has not been unified by an organization that brings the terminology together for the good of the sport as is judo or taekwondo. So it is going to be unique to your lineage and part of your tradition. It is part of your legacy, it is also part of your art... --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Randy Mertes" To: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:16:14 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Sadness Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Friends: I started at Brainerd TKD (now Dewitt TKD and Hapkido) almost five years ago. At that time, there was a high-school age black-belt named Jacob Pfingsten. Jake was one of two others (sisters Joelene and Sarah) in his family that earned black-belts at our school. Last Friday, while serving in Germany for the U.S. Military, Jake passed away from natural causes at the age of 22. Jake is described by everyone who knew him as one of the most likeable and respectful people you could ever know (for that matter, all the Pfingstens are). I personally remember times when he addressed me as Mr. Mertes, even when I was a white-belt. Our hearts are heavy. Please remember the Pfingsten family in your prayers at this time. Randy Mertes 1st Dahn --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:33:59 -0500 From: "Wilson, Byron" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] The Arnold Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Yes, Sir. I am going to the Arnold in Columbus. It is one of the best "body" shows I have been to. Gymnastics, Martial Arts, Strength Training, Fitness.....it is very motivating. I have competed, reffed and generally volunteered in the Arnold Martial Arts, Battle of Columbus for the last 5 or 6 years. Grandmaster Joon P. Choi is NOT organizing the Arnold Martial Arts this year. He has split, for some reason. It should be interesting to see how the Arnold goes this year and what level of participation they get. I have heard that they are including boxing, wrestling and other more contemporary American arts to expand their audience. Byron C. Wilson TKD Student --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:00:00 -0600 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Sun Bae-Hu Bae Definitions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Navarro, Excellent explanation of terms sir. Danny Dunn --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Frank Clay" To: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:12:24 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Smith Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The term for senior is sun beh or if it is a junior, sun beh nim. f. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:53:01 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] sticking hands Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Is the wing chun sticking hands similar to taichi pushing hands? --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:07:44 -0800 (PST) From: John Merwin To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Seniour student Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Does anyone know the Korean vesion for the word Senior > Student? > > Master Smith > U.M.A.S. The word Sam-be is right for senior student. In our school we only use gup, poom and dan there is no serior students except for GM Rudy. All the rest of us are students. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:41:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] NK Going Into Business Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net February 21, 2005 Vol. 165, No. 7 Going Into Business The state can't feed its citizens, but cautious economic reforms have led to a growth of enterprise, markets and trade. Can the regime keep a lid on the changes? BY DONALD MACINTYRE | SEOUL As a crumbling vestige of Stalinist economic planning, North Korea is one of the last places on earth where you would expect to find a bustling central market. But the city of Hoeryong, located beside the Tumen River on the border with China in the northeast of the country, has just such a venue, and it is helping its inhabitants improve their lives. In the 1990s, untold numbers of locals starved to death during a North Korean famine that may have killed some 2 million or more nationwide. Life under the country's dictator Kim Jong Il remains brutal for Hoeryong's estimated 100,000 residents, but at least they no longer need to depend completely upon the state and foreign donations for food and a few simple pleasures. Today, according to interviews with more than a dozen smugglers, traders and migrant workers who routinely slip between China and North Korea, and with many refugees from the North now in South Korea, the market teems with shoppers' inspecting sacks of rice and ! corn, boxes of apples, bananas and tangerines. On wooden tables under makeshift awnings, pork and fish are on sale; so are Japanese TVs and VCRs, South Korean cosmetics, fashionable sportswear from China, illegal imported sex videotapes--and if you know who to talk to, North Koreans say you can even purchase a home, an outrageous capitalist sin in a country where private property is anathema. "You can buy anything and everything in the market," says Park, a Hoeryong trader who sells televisions she brings in from China. (Like all North Koreans TIME talked to for this story, Park spoke on the condition that her real name not be used.) "Everybody wants to be in business." That image of entrepreneurialism in flower is very different from the conventional view of a destitute, desperate Hermit Kingdom. Since the end of the Korean War, the North's borders have been almost entirely closed to Westerners, so learning what's going on inside Kim's black box is difficult. Yet this knowledge is vitally important to diplomatic efforts designed to persuade Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear weapons program. In Washington, Tokyo, Seoul and Beijing, negotiating strategies remain polarized. There are those, like some hawks in Washington, who believe the rotting economy of the North is close to a complete breakdown that would topple Kim--and that his demise can be hastened as long as the regime is not propped up with donations of money, food and oil, which Kim in the past has demanded in exchange for peace. But others doubt that the North is on the edge, and argue instead that Kim can be coaxed into abandoning failed command-economy policies and begin a slow tr! ansition to capitalism. South Korea's President Roh Moo Hyun is in the latter camp. On a visit to Warsaw in December, Roh stated that economic pressure was a waste of time. "There's almost no chance North Korea is going to collapse," Roh said. The tales from Hoeryong's traders suggest neither camp has got it exactly right. In 2002, Pyongyang implemented cautious economic reforms. Strict price controls on staples such as rice were relaxed, factory bosses were ordered to start earning profits, and workers were encouraged to perform longer hours to earn more pay. But the reforms had consequences that went far beyond what the government planners seem to have intended. Black-market prices for rice and corn soared by more than 10 times, while salaries, fixed by the state, stagnated. To make up the shortfall, North Koreans started trading among themselves, setting up bakeries, tailor shops and makeshift gasoline outlets. An unofficial market of smugglers and loan sharks, whose services were now much in demand, is flourishing while bureaucrats look the other way--or go into business themselves. In a country where telephones are considered a security risk, a few citizens even drive their own cars--a privilege previously reserved for high-ranking officials--while along the borders, some use smuggled Chinese-made mobile phones and Chinese cellular networks to arrange business deals with partners in China and South Korea, according to North Korean traders and defectors. The North continues to be plagued by chronic shortages of everything from food to fuel to electricity. But an entrepreneurial class is developing, news from the outside world is filtering through, and expectations of a better life are rising. "This is exactly what was happening in the Soviet Union in 1989" before it collapsed, says Leonid Petrov, a North Korea expert at the Academy of Korean Studies in the south of Seoul. "Nobody believes in the old socialist ideology anymore--they believe in money." Of course, it's impossible to gauge just how extensive and entrenched the mercantile ethic has become. But anecdotes from those who live in Hoeryong suggest the reforms accelerated changes that have quietly been gathering momentum for years as North Koreans looked for new ways to survive. Park, the trader, is a woman in her late 30s who started selling cigarettes and medicinal herbs in the mid-1990s to supplement her meager government handouts. On a recent trip, she went to China to sell salted fish bought with money she borrowed from relatives, intending to return with a truckload of clothes and TVs. Japanese models sell especially well. "Color," she says, "and the bigger screens, the better." This is hardscrabble, black-market work, and Park must be careful that she isn't caught or cheated. "If you don't use your head right, you lose everything you have," Park says. "But if you have five Chinese yuan (about 60), you can double them." Park says demand for her goods is strong. North Korea experts and aid workers say less than a third of the country's nonmilitary factories are still running. Almost all the electronic products and other manufactured goods on sale in the North come from China, along with more expensive luxury goods from Japan and South Korea, according to North Korean traders. Outside Pyongyang and a few other big cities where the elite still get government rations, the majority of the inhabitants in urban centers can now buy almost everything they need from officially sanctioned markets. Says Hwang, an architect turned trader who visits Hoeryong regularly: "Nothing comes from the state anymore." For a growing proportion of Hoeryong residents, say those interviewed by TIME, the central marketplace provides a livelihood. Transport services and cottage industries are springing up to keep the market supplied with items such as baked goods, candy and moonshine. More sophisticated forms of commerce are developing too. It's illegal to sell your government-supplied house, but informal real estate brokers will put buyers and sellers together for a fee, say traders and North Korea watchers. A small bribe is usually enough to persuade a city-hall bureaucrat to change the name on your residence permit. In a country with no consumer-banking system, selling your house is one way to raise money to get into trading. Another option: the local loan shark, who charges interest of up to 30% a month (he'll demand furniture or real estate as collateral). Need a car? Private car ownership is illegal; however, people can buy a nice secondhand Japanese sedan on the black market. Those who c! an afford to can protect their enterprises and their private belongings by paying off officialdom through large "patriotic" donations to the government. Park isn't yet rich enough to buy protection. But she says she owns a Japanese color TV, a stereo and a VCR. She's got a Chinese-made generator to run the appliances when the power grid fails, as it does regularly. She eats fish and white rice and, on holidays, meat, which is a luxury for most North Koreans. And she can afford to frequent the new restaurants and karaoke rooms that have opened in Hoeryong recently. She has no plans to leave her homeland. "I'm happy," she says. Still, few people can make that claim in a country where, according to the United Nations, much of the population suffers from malnutrition. Unable to earn enough to buy food, many of Hoeryong's residents have fled to China or South Korea. Others are forced to go into the mountains to grow their own food on small, illegal farms, according to refugees and foreign aid workers. And many of the populace can't afford to buy rice in the market--it hit 56 a kilo in some areas last summer, up by a factor of nearly 20 from two years earlier, traders say. That's more than half of a teacher's monthly salary. Song, who started selling shoes in the central market last year, clears $14 a month after taxes and other expenses. More than two-thirds of her income goes to buying rice for her family of three. "With the leftover, you need soap, clothes for the kids," says Song. "One person working in a family is not enough to survive." Her husband smuggled TVs and frogs used in Chinese medicine ! until he was caught by state security last year. He wants to work in China for a few months but has had no luck so far. Most of the men in Hoeryong are worse off, forced to show up for work at factories that are barely operating. Many men spend their days playing cards, occasionally receiving paid salaries that are shriveled by inflation. Some bosses have allowed more enterprising workers to punch in and then go off to work at side businesses, as long as they give some of their earnings to the factory. Many managers have simply quit. "Why bother to be a manager when you can just cut out and make lots of money on your own?" asks Kim, who left Hoeryong and made his way to Seoul last year. It's doubtful that Kim Jong Il intended his reforms to burnish an entrepreneurial spirit. More likely, he wished to allow citizens only the most basic of tools to feed themselves, hoping that would shut down any willingness to defect or revolt. Kim Jong Il hasn't proclaimed that getting rich is glorious, the exhortation used by the Chinese government to kick-start its own economy in the 1980s. And recently it appears that Pyongyang may be trying to put the lid on economic activity that it thinks is moving too far, too fast. Under a criminal code revision last year, according to South Korean media and North Korea experts, Pyongyang banned "individual commercial activities" and declared it a crime to participate in real estate brokering, money lending and private hooch production. In a statement last week announcing its pullout from talks that were aimed at getting North Korea to scrap its nuclear program, Pyongyang included a gibe at American support for reform: "We advise th! e U.S. to negotiate with dealers in peasant markets it claims are to its liking." That's a reminder that, for all the signs of reform, the North Korean regime remains one of the most brutal in the world. Last month, a South Korean human-rights group released a video it claimed was shot in Hoeryong, showing posters urging North Koreans to "rise up and drive out the dictatorship." Authorities in the city later confiscated videotapes; they also rounded up entire families of North Koreans who have defected and sent them to prison camps, according to refugees living in Seoul who have contacts with the North. Says Lee Suk, an expert on the North Korean economy at the Korea Institute for National Unification in Seoul: "North Korea wants to revive the system, not change it." But Pyongyang's control over events in the provinces is weakening, say defectors and human-rights activists with North Korean contacts. Citizens with new access to radios and DVD players are learning their wretched status is not inevitable--that capitalistic, democratic South Korea is a modern economy and one of the wealthier places on earth. "Now, people's minds are more open," says Park, the trader. "They are all demanding better living standards." Says Andrei Lankov, a North Korea expert at the Australian National University: "Reforms are very dangerous. The problem for Kim [Jong Il] is they are happening anyway." Dragging a color TV from China to sell in a North Korean market may not be the way that revolutions normally start. But in the North's miserable conditions, such flickers of enterprise could yet light a fire that would consume the regime. With reporting by Kim Yooseung/Seoul --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:56:50 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Jodies Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I understand your mention of Jody (Cadence), but you answered your own idea. Its OK to run and listen to music, or sound out Jodys. But for formal class, I don't think its right. I guess everyone has there own idea. My point is that music is OK when running, or maybe during a demonstration for the public, and certainly for meditation (nature sounds or something appropriate) But Some seem to be playing heavy metal in the Do-Jang which to me show a lack of respect for the art they study JC --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest