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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Mixed Up Martial Artist (Randall Sexton) 2. RE: Hapkido in the Edmonton Area (Tracy Bodnarchuk) 3. Leaders of 2 TKD Groups to Meet (Ray) 4. Re: RE: Hapkido in the Edmonton Area (Ray) 5. End of the World at hand?? (Bruce Sims) 6. Sad Perspective (Bruce Sims) 7. Hapkido in the Norman, Oklahoma area. (Eric Walker) 8. Re: Sad Perspective (jakskru) 9. Woodland Hills L.A. School Search (Jared Circle) 10. Re: Sad Perspective (Ray) 11. Escrima Techniques (Tony McDonald) 12. Re: Escrima Techniques (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:06 -1000 From: Randall Sexton To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Mixed Up Martial Artist Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I see that www.bullshido.com is covering the story. I do not know how big he was, but many are big fellows! Randy <> --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Tracy Bodnarchuk" To: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:14:12 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Hapkido in the Edmonton Area Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Lois, In Edmonton there is 3 Hapkido Schools to my knowledge. My school which is located in the Kilkenny Comunity center My Instruction is from Master Mike Jaques of Mcbride BC who teaches Sin Moo Hapkido. I have kind of lost comtact with him in the last few years but I still train. My ranking is 1st dan so I am not alowed to grade anybody through the Sin Moo system. I have not yet affilliated myself with any system or association...I just don't have the time/money to spend a couple of weeks with a Master from the US to have them look at my techniques and judge them. Come and look at the techniques for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Another school is Master Grawi located just south of the west ed mall I am not sure of the exact address. He claims to be the highest ranking hapkido instructor for his association in Canada???(can't remember what association it was) He also claims to have very high ranking in ITF Taekwondo,Diato ryu aki jujitsu, Dan 7-9?? I watched a quarter of 1 class and only saw his students do techniques. He himself did not get on the mat so I cannot give a good estimate. I brought my Dobok but did not get invited onto the mat. The last School is located south of Whyte Ave in a native center, again I don't know the name of the school, but the instructor is named Carlos I am not sure of his ranking and when asked he did not know of GM Choi or Doju Ji,Han Jae. His techniques looked more like large circles of Akido and told me you need to do all these techniques with lightning speed and his kicks were all high like taekwondo. I did get invited onto the mat and was given personal instruction from Carlos and I was not impressed with what was being demonstrated to me. There was no pain, he kept telling me to lighten up and if he did this with speed it would be devastating. This is all I have found in the past 5 yrs since I left B.C., so last year I started my oun club. I know my instructor Master Jaques would not approve of me opening a club but I need to keep training, but that is politics I don't want to get into it. If you would like to check out my small club e-mail me trbod@telusplanet.net Tracy Bodnarchuk 1st Dan and holding..... >Does anyone on the DD know of a good Hapkido instructor in the Edmonton, Alberta, Canada area? I attended the USKMAA Fall >Seminar last year and it has left me with a thirst for more :) >Lois --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 03:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Leaders of 2 TKD Groups to Meet Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Leaders of 2 Taekwondo Groups to Meet The Korea Times 05-12-2005 SEOUL (Yonhap) - Leaders from taekwondo's two world governing bodies are scheduled to meet in Switzerland in June, a senior official said Thursday. During the meeting, they will discuss ways of keeping taekwondo as an official competition sport in the Olympics and merging the two organizations, said Lee Ki-ha, vice president of the International Taekwondo Federation (ITF). Lee, a British national, is visiting South Korea after his weeklong trip to North Korea. Taekwondo is currently overseen by two organizations on a global level _ the World Taekwondo Federation led by Choue Chung-won of South Korea and the ITF headed by Chang Ung of North Korea, a member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). The meeting is likely to come two months before the Lausanne-based IOC is scheduled to decide whether to keep the Korean martial art as an official Olympics sport at a general meeting in Singapore in July. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Hapkido in the Edmonton Area To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 04:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > In Edmonton there is 3 Hapkido Schools to my knowledge. My school which is > located in the Kilkenny Comunity center My Instruction is from Master Mike > Jaques of Mcbride BC who teaches Sin Moo Hapkido. I have kind of lost > comtact with him in the last few years but I still train. Small world. I trained a bit with Mike back when he came to California to study under Gm Ji. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:35:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] End of the World at hand?? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ".....Japanese apologies for assassination of Korean empress 100 years ago May 10, 2005...." HOLY S***!!! I do believe the temperature in Hell just dropped 30 degrees!! :-) Best Wishes, Bruce --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Sims To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sad Perspective Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Jakskru: "....just a thought...isnt HKD the result of crosstraining?..." No. Certainly if one wants to say that "cross-training" is what Ji or Kim, or Lee or Suh did to produce their respective takes on Hapkido I can go with that. The difference comes in when each of the techniques is required to conform to the Three Pillars" or "Three Principles" that bind the Hapkido arts together. For instance, there is quite a bit of wrestling that could be incorporated if a person wanted to, but there is also quite a bit of wrestling that would not conform to the second Principle ("Economy of Energy"). There is also that whole arguement about the first Principle ("Water Principle") and whether it is to be interpreted as "irresistable force" or "to accept what is offered". This gets into the matter of the role of pre-emptive action versus waiting for the other guy to act first. The Hapkido arts are more than just whip-stitching disparate techniques together. Thats what makes folks like the ones who started these traditions great men. No small trick, that. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Eric Walker" To: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:55:52 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido in the Norman, Oklahoma area. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net DDers, Does anyone know of a school in the Norman, OK area? I have a student going away to college in a few weeks and would like to point her towards a place to continue her training. It would probably be best if she didn't have to drive far to get to class, and a club-like class would suit her best. However any leads would be appreciated. Thanks, Eric --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "jakskru" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sad Perspective Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:47:29 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net by my previous statement i meant that didnt it start out as drajj, then got some judo in there, followed by the kicking added by GM Ji? sounds like a result of crosstraining to me...or perhaps i misunderstood what i read concerning the HKD history ( not just from one source fyi )? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Sims" To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Sad Perspective > Dear Jakskru: > > "....just a thought...isnt HKD the result of crosstraining?..." > > No. Certainly if one wants to say that "cross-training" is what Ji or Kim, or Lee or Suh did to produce their respective takes on Hapkido I can go with that. The --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Jared Circle" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:00:00 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Woodland Hills L.A. School Search Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have 2 whitebelt students visiting LA for the summer who are interested in training.  I teach Tang Soo Do and  they are looking for a school with a similiar style to train in while in Woodland Hills.  Can anyone refer them to a good traditional style TSD school in the area? Thanks in advance for any input JEC --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sad Perspective To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > by my previous statement i meant that didnt it start out as drajj, then got > some judo in there, followed by the kicking added by GM Ji? sounds like a > result of crosstraining to me...or perhaps i misunderstood what i read > concerning the HKD history ( not just from one source fyi )? Some classify Hapkido has the first truely eclectic martial art, i.e. developed via cross-training. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Tony McDonald" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Escrima Techniques Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:34:50 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My name is Tony, I'm currently in Tae Kwon Do and I have found a new love for Escrimas, such fast striking techniques :) can anyone help me with some Escrima video clips or techniques? ~Tony --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Escrima Techniques To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > My name is Tony, I'm currently in Tae Kwon Do and I have found a new love > for Escrimas, > such fast striking techniques :) can anyone help me with some Escrima video > clips or techniques? You'll find lots of info on the web. Also look for a spelling of Eskrima. It has been a love on mine for 12+ years now. See attached. 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