Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:04:49 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #244 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Tai Chi (Randall Sexton) 2. RE: Bruce Sims' summary comment on bowing (Jeff Yeagley) 3. TFT Las Vegas (Dave Marriott) 4. Re: tai chi (Jye nigma) 5. Kukki-scam (Tkdsid@aol.com) 6. Kids everywhere (Ray) 7. RE: RE: Bruce Sims' summary comment on bowing (andrew swogger) 8. Master (Adam D. Huntley) 9. Re: Master (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:05:11 -1000 From: Randall Sexton To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Tai Chi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Chu will gladly beat you up! http://www.chutaichi.com/ Randy Sexton --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Jeff Yeagley" To: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:57:13 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Bruce Sims' summary comment on bowing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net SNIP: "My guess is that it does not take any immagination to simply declare that "its my way or the highway". That can always be the default position. I think the challenge for the teacher is to come up with comfortable ways of including rather than excluding students." Bruce, I seem to recall that you do not accept children as students. If this is not true, then I apologize for a faulty memory. If it is true, however, then by refusing to take a prospective child student, wouldn't you (or any instructor who refuses to teach children) be saying that it's "the highway" for that child? And, if this statement is true, then does an instructor who refuses to teach children lack imagination, or are they simply not up to your stated "challenge for the teacher"? Kind regards, Jeff "I believe that children are our future" and/or "that pot needs stirring" Yeagley --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Dave Marriott" To: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:06:10 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] TFT Las Vegas Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi All, A contact of mine has highly recommended a course called TFT Las Vegas. Details can be found at: http://www.self-defense-training.org/products_training.html Has anybody come across this course? If so what are your thoughts Thanks Dave Marriott --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] tai chi To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Aside from the chi work done in tai chi chuan, the fact that the movements are very controlled yet done with the body totally relaxed is where the fierceness stems from. They learn to keep the body relaxed which gives the benefit of much more power and greater speed being delivered. jye Tkdsid@aol.com wrote: I read somewhere that tai chi is considered by some to be a fierce martial art when applied. Are there any tai chi schools in NY that anyone know about? Sid _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Tkdsid@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:41:26 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Kukki-scam Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have been informed by a former student that a school in Queens,NY accepted kukkiwon fees from 30 students over the last 3 years and never gave them their certificates. The totasl of that is $15,000! Does there appear that there will ever be an end to this garbage???? Sid --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Kids everywhere Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Bruce, I seem to recall that you do not accept children as students. If > this is not true, then I apologize for a faulty memory. If it is true, > however, then by refusing to take a prospective child student, wouldn't you > (or any instructor who refuses to teach children) be saying that it's "the > highway" for that child? And the problem with that is ??? There are lots of dojangs out there. Most of them just full of little bitty kids. They can always go train there. imho. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "andrew swogger" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] RE: Bruce Sims' summary comment on bowing Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:32:17 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Bruce, I seem to recall that you do not accept children as students. If >this is not true, then I apologize for a faulty memory. If it is true, >however, then by refusing to take a prospective child student, wouldn't you >(or any instructor who refuses to teach children) be saying that it's "the >highway" for that child? And, if this statement is true, then does an >instructor who refuses to teach children lack imagination, or are they >simply not up to your stated "challenge for the teacher"? I thought Hapkido was not normally taught to children because it could damage their joints which at still developing. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Adam D. Huntley" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:03:54 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all! (Big Bow) We've been having a bit of a spirited conversation on another forum about what and who a master is. At what point do we recieve such an honor 4th dan - 5th Dan, 6th or 7th? The ATA (American Taekwondo Association) which I was a part of until I reached my 4th Degree (Dan) is promoting 35 masters this month, all 6th Degrees and have gone thru some process that last, at least a year. I'm not saying that any one of them do not deserve it. As a mater of fact I have trained with at least one and I would say he has earned it. So, I would'nt want this discussion to go negative about anyone or any org. Rather we all have opinions on this subject, share. Adam D. Huntley --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Master To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > We've been having a bit of a spirited conversation on another forum about > what and who a master is. At what point do we recieve such an honor 4th dan > - 5th Dan, 6th or 7th? Yes. :) It all depends on which style your study and/or which organization you belong to. And I believe in some styles you aren't a Master until 8th Dan. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest