Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:03:44 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #268 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. SBD Summer Camp (Ray) 2. Lopez family (Ray) 3. Hapkido in Japan. (Brenton Bills) 4. ITF/WTF merger (tkdsid@aol.com) 5. Help (courage kakaney) 6. Bowing (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 7. Re: Kids and HKD (aburrese@aol.com) 8. Re: ITF/WTF merger (Ray) 9. very obvious spam/virus (Ray) 10. Cardio Kick Boxing (Tony McDonald) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] SBD Summer Camp Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Glenwood Springs, CO Martial arts training camp The 22nd annual Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Summer Training Camp is Friday through Sunday in Redstone. Six master-level instructors train outdoors and teach archery, knife defense, energy projection and awareness clinics. Call 925-8099 or 927-3468 for more information. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Lopez family Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Lopez family building on tae kwon do history 06/24/2005 Natalie England Express-News Staff The Lopez family's garage in Houston looks like that of any other family. Dirt. Oil stains. Holes in the walls. But years ago, inside that garage, began the training of champions. Now, the Lopez family is the family to beat in tae kwon do. Steven Lopez, Mark Lopez and Diana Lopez made history this past April. All three won gold at the 2005 World tae kwon do Championships in Madrid, Spain, to become the first three siblings in any sport to claim world championship titles in the same event. For Steven, 26, it was his third-straight world championship, to go with the back-to-back gold medals he won at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics. It marked the first world championship for both Mark and Diana. Their oldest brother, Jean, served as the men's head coach at the world championships, and as the Olympic coach in 2004. The entire Lopez family will be in San Antonio today and Saturday as interested spectators during the U.S. Junior Olympic tae kwon do Championships at the Alamodome. "I want to watch and talk to the (participants)," Steven said. "I hope I can be a good role model for the kids." Jean became enrolled in martial-arts classes at an early age, and after watching the sport's debut in the 1988 Seoul Olympics, the path became clear. "That's when the Olympic spark happened," said Jean, 31. With Steven, his interest in tae kwon do started soon thereafter. "My older brother was doing it, and I just wanted to do what he did," Steven said. Not long after, Mark, 22, and Diana, 21, became interested. And the Lopez family dynasty was on its way. In a family where dinner at 7p.m. was mandatory, the Lopez siblings have elevated their performances, they say, because they train together every day at the Elite tae kwon do Center -- which Jean owns -- in Sugar Land, just as they did in the family garage years ago. "We live together, eat together, train together," Steven said. "If one of us is tired, we know someone will be there to push us." For the Lopez family, this year's world championships were merely a starting point. The 2008 Olympics are on their minds now, with Steven eyeing his third gold medal and Mark and Diana each in search of their first. "This is all leading up to 2008," Jean said. "We know we made history (at the world championships), but that's what is now -- history." --__--__-- Message: 3 To: The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Brenton Bills Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:52:15 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido in Japan. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Guys, Sorry to bother you again but I didn't really get much of a response last time so I thought I would post again. I am looking for a Hapkido school in Tokyo Japan. In Australia I was studying the Moohakkwan Style of Hapkido, but I think it could be hard to find this exact style in Japan. Any help would be great. Brent. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:28:53 -0400 From: tkdsid@aol.com To: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF/WTF merger Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On the whole this is a great thing. It will heal any tkd divisions and help in reuniting the 2 Koreas. As to whether there will be palgwes or taekuks...its unimportant. I hope it would mean that the forms would be updated to move away from horseback and sword technique. Who would run it? Probably a committee at first. Shortly after the unification, I would expect dissention and perhaps threats of a split. Things can't get too big unless the central authority is good. That's the key. Sid --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:28:55 -0700 (PDT) From: courage kakaney To: The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Help Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi everybody, I am have just started to learn the art of taekwondo in a small club in Ghana. I have a lot of love for this art and hope to take it international. We however have some problems in our club due to the lack of necessary equipment. We train without uniforms which removes the spirit of the art. I therefore would plead with any one who could help us with some used uniforms and equipments ,we are not asking for new equipment. Any number no matter how small will be appreciated. Thank you very much courage --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:30:53 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Bowing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Lois I read "My preference is to bow to any martial artist senior to me, regardless of their clothing or where I encounter them; and to address all seniors by their martial art title..." I respect your reply to my post, although I don't agree totally. I have been to some open tournaments where I saw people wearing satin sleeveless uniforms dawned in red white and blue. Some claim to be 8th, 9th, or even 10th dans and call themselves Grandmaster. These type of people do not earn my respect. I usually avoid talking with them at all, but if I have to--I address them respectfully as a person but not necessarily as grandmaster. I don't bow, although I may shake hands with them. The issue is not about showing them respect, Its about showing them the respect they have earned. I believe the bow is a show of respect that has been become defaced by some. I do not bow to anyone because of the uniform they wear. I bow to them because I respect them. I bow to brand new white belts that come in to the school because I respect their intentions and their courage to start training, Not because they are wearing a white belt. I bow to my instructor and my seniors because they have earned my respect through accomplishment and relationship. I will bow and show respect to people from other martial arts systems and organizations if they are legitimately what they say they are, and conduct themselves accordingly. The bottom line is respect is reserved for those that earn it and not for those that wear a fancy uniform or claim a title. JCGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:23:43 -0400 From: aburrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Kids and HKD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Klaas posted about kids learning in Korea. That may be true in some schools, but not in the schools I trained at. I say schools, because I originally trained at Kwanjangnim Kim's school, where Sabomnim Lee did much of the teaching. When Sabomnim Lee opened his own school, I trained there too. I have also trained at Sabomnin Kim's school. (this is a friend Kim Hyun, who came up the ranks with Sabomnim Lee under Kwanjangnim Kim and who opened his own school as well) I have visited other HKD schools in Korea, but primarily trained in those three places. In those schools, kids were taught the same curriculum as adults. They learned every joint lock,throw, kick, strike, etc. that adults learn. And it is true that people will get to first dan in 18-24 months in Korea. This is usually done by going to class 6 times a week. The only times anyone played games and didn't do HKD in the schools I trained at were when we had the special days where we would gather, play games, eat, and have fun. This was done outside of the dojang one or two times a year. In the dojang, yes kids ran around and played before or after class some, but during class time it was all Hapkido. It sounds like this is the way things are run at James Allison's school in the States as well, and I would think those kids are very lucky to train there. Personally, the only kid I teach right now is my daughter, and she is 15 months old. No we are not doing joint locks yet, but she does know what pal chagi means, and when I or my wife say pal chagi, she raises her leg with a little "aiee." It's pretty cute, and it is a start. Dakin mentioned the cultural differences, and I totally agree. I was just trying to make the point that with all the Korean instructors who do teach kids HKD, I think they would find it humerous, if not insulting, for an American to tell them they can't teach HKD to kids. Yours in Training, Alain www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] ITF/WTF merger To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > As to whether there will be palgwes or taekuks...its unimportant. One rumor indicates the ITF gup forms and the Kukki dan forms. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] very obvious spam/virus Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Almost funny, but a very obvious spam w/virus attached, the following is making the rounds right now... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Martialartsresource Member, Your e-mail account was used to send a huge amount of unsolicited spam messages during the recent week. If you could please take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and confirm the attached document so you will not run into any future problems with the online service. If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choice but to cancel your membership. Virtually yours, The Martialartsresource Support Team +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ Martialartsresource Antivirus - www.martialartsresource.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Your spam and/or virus filter will no doubt catch any msgs of this type, but I found this one so interestingly constructed that I had to share it. For grins, if nothing else. As we've said many times before, you will NOT receive an attachment from the_dojang and a virus comes via an attachment. Thus any email appearing to come from us with an attachment is a very obvious spam/virus. Just ignore and delete. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Tony McDonald" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Cardio Kick Boxing Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:05:53 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hey Everyone! Im about to start teaching Cardio Kick Boxing a my local YMCA, does anyone have advice to teaching techniques, or music to play during classes? ~Tony --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest