Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:02:56 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #295 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Can you identify any of these folks from 1965? (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 2. NKMAA Seminars (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Re: The_Deadly weapons (Beungood8@aol.com) 4. Hapkido - Kids (Dana Yeagley) 5. Re: Re: Kids and hapkido (Patrick Williams) 6. Realism and Firearms (Gladewater SooBahkDo) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:30:10 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Can you identify any of these folks from 1965? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On to a new thread! I was looking at Kim Soo's photo of the students at his Seoul academy in 1965. There's both Koreans and Americans there. Can anyone identify any of them? The URL is: http://www.lacancha.com/koreaacademy.html Yours in the arts, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --__--__-- Message: 2 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:35:54 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] NKMAA Seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello everyone: This is a shameless plug to let you know about the August NKMAA seminars that are soon coming up. I will be in Portland, Oregon on August 19-20 for a seminar hosted by KJN Kevin Janisse. On August 26-27, I will be in Crestview, Florida where KJN Thomas Gordon hosts his first NKMAA seminar. Both Masters are list members, and I am sure they love to see our DD friends as much as I do. I will share with you a wide variety of Korean martial art techniques, forms, and weapons, so I am sure we have something that suits all of your interests. Hope to see you there, and I wish all those traveling to be with us a safe trip. To register, please contact the above Masters or contact me direct at kwanjang@sympatico,ca. Limited space available. Thanks for the band width Ray. Warmest personal regards, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:40:01 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Deadly weapons Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 7/17/2005 1:01:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: likely encounter one and they should know what to do when that happens. My reply: Good point. I personally am terrified of guns -- they are way too deadly for me! But gun safety is very important. They are no more deadly than a car,chainsaw ,knife .....It's the people who misuse that are deadly. They are merely tools.. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Dana Yeagley" To: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:29:05 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido - Kids Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It was said - Somewhere here in the US (Florida, maybe) is a mother who buried a little girl who was killed by her playmate, apparently with a "WWF-style" knee-drop. The boy was "just playing". The girl is dead nontheless. Refresh my memory - was this girl's playmate training or had he trained in wrestling?? Was he told to NEVER use his techniques outside the classroom or ONLY in a self-defense situation. Training kids in Hapkido, can be done if you have the right instructor. No, you probably won't be able to teach 20 kids at a time or maybe not even 10, and yes, it will be harder than teaching adults but the fact is it can be done. It has been done, whether some want to believe it or not. In His Holy Name, Dana HYPERLINK "http://www.WeTrainHarder.com"http://www.WeTrainHarder.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/49 - Release Date: 7/16/2005 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Williams Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Kids and hapkido To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Brother Klaas. I understand you are in Korea training Hankido. Are children present? Do they do the same techniques you do? Are they knowledgeable, as far as what they are doing and why? I don't teach children but after viewing the many posts I'm considering trying a class to see have it Pan's out. The old system of hapkido under IHF which I learned, for some reason was quite a challenge for kids. Many would quite after a month or two of training, although that was years ago. Your comments are welcome as you are there and have first hand knowledge. Klaas Barends wrote: >> Kids should know how to defend themselves with martial arts, guns or >> other weapons. Kids should grow up in a caring and loving environment without violence. Teaching kids how to kill (be it another human being or even an animal) is not something I would find appropriate. Children can't clearly distinguish between reality and fiction. They can NOT judge when is the appropriate time to use skills. (even a lot of adults don't seem to be able to do that) -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ Dutch HKD Federation http://www.sangmookwan.com/ SangMooKwan International Training Center Korea _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:20:39 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Realism and Firearms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just my opinion--- I teach a traditional martial art (Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan) and believe in the value of the traditions, I also cross train to increase my ability to defend myself in the real world. My cross training consist of Jujitsu, because the traditional art I study is limited in the area of grappling I feel that the combination of the two arts makes me a more well rounded martial artist. I also collect and shoot firearms on a regular basis. I live near a firing range and me and my family go about twice a month. We own approximately 70 guns from AR 15's and AK 47's to Glock and 1911 pistols, to black powder guns. I teach my kids the importance of firearms safety. I take my 11 year old daughter to the range and let her fire all the guns including the assault rifles. I feel more comfortable knowing they understand the dangers of misuse of these weapons. At home the guns stay in a locked safe. Teaching kids gun safety IMHO is a good thing, it keeps them from being curious when no adults are around. Most children killed by guns find one left un locked around their house and shoot another child because no adult taught them any better, and the adult left it within the reach of the child. The point is I think gun education is good if the child has a responsible adult teaching in a responsible manner. I also train because I enjoy training, I shoot because I enjoy shooting. I hope I never have to use my martial arts training to hurt another and I certainly never want to shoot another person, but if I am pushed into that position, I want to be prepared. This is why I train realistically, and practice the values taught by the traditional martial arts. The values of respect and honesty may keep me from fighting at all. I heard a D.I. at camp Pendleton CA, (Marine Corps Base) say Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. It seems to apply here. JCGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest