Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:04:00 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #297 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. list slow (Ray) 2. RE: Make TKD More Interesting (Thomas Gordon) 3. RE: NKMAA Seminars (Thomas Gordon) 4. hunting at 11! (Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com) 5. Video clip....sparring critique (Jye nigma) 6. Kids and violence (Rudy Timmerman) 7. not political its martial (Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com) 8. Can you identify any of thesefolks from 1965? (Master Mac) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] list slow Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just fyi, I head out of town tomorrow, down to Guadlajara, Mexico on business and to teach a seminar while I'm there. So the list may be slow for a few days. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Make TKD More Interesting Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:33:51 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On this subject, when we watch boxing, what are we looking for? The stunning body shot or the head shot? Watching a boxer talented enough to beat a man down with body shots is impressive but not necessarily the most entertaining. Watching someone get their head handed to them with a ferocious blow to da kisser makes you jump outta your chair. Sport taekwondo needs this or their going to lose their spot in the Olympics. Olympic style fighting is exciting when YOU are in the ring and the fella across from you is going for a knockout with a jump kick to the head. (I always get a bit excited when someone wants to knock me out...) But unless you get the shark and gold fish match-up, it's not likely to happen on an Olympic level. These guys are just too good and train too hard. Sure, sometimes someone gets off a big kick to the head, but adding hand techniques to the head is more realistic and holds more entertainment value. To me, this is a bit more sophisticated than kick boxing whereas the opponents aren't necessarily martial artists. For what it's worth. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] NKMAA Seminars Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:33:51 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello all, Thank you for posting Grandmaster Timmerman. We live in Northwest Florida about 45 minutes east of Pensacola and 30 miles directly above Destin. If you ever drive on I-10, you'll go through Crestview so we're easy to get to. Folks, if you're looking for a vacation/work-out, this is the place to be. Literally 40 minutes from the beach so you can get your tan going after the seminar! We all know his credentials and trained under him in Jackson's KMA fest so I won't belabor the post any longer. Warm regards, Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:50:58 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] hunting at 11! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thank you Mr. terry for defending my parents well my mother at least she was not irresposible but when youre in an abusive situation you do what you can to keep the kids out of harms way I dont want to get into a pissing match with tim but he wasnt there and doesnt know what some people live in or through hope his kids never have to. carter --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:20:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Video clip....sparring critique Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Check out this video clip and give me your opinion: http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Free-fighting&width=320 I think the taller brother was really nice with his hands but not as nice with his legs. Jye __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:22:41 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Kids and violence Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greg writes: > I think if you treat your kids like adults that they will in fact > act as > such and havent had any reason to question my kids in 20 years of > raising > them. I was born in Holland during a time when guns and killing were a daily occurrence. It was nothing for any of the kids I grew up with to find parts of a human skeleton while playing outside after the war, and during the war I personally remember running across parts of human bodies that were still lying around after some battle had taken place. Violence was all around us kids, and when we played we imitated what we saw on a daily basis; however, most of us grew up without violent tendencies of our own. My feeling is that this was because our parents and other adults would TEACH us about right or wrong and all the other good parts of parenting that make kids turn out pretty good. In my classes I do the same. I teach kids (and adults who need it) the same values my parents taught me right alongside of techniques, and that is how I can teach the entire Hap Ki Do curriculum to all who display an attitude that makes me feel comfortable to do so (regardless of age). For those who I do not feel comfortable with, I teach them what I would teach any beginner... very little. IMHO, unless students grasp the values that are part and parcel of the art I teach, they are beginners regardless how long they train with me. Most of them realize that I am not teaching them the fine points of our techniques, and before long most of them leave on their own. Fine with me:) Rudy --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:30:32 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] not political its martial Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why is it that we dont want to admit that firearms training is a martial art, fighting for survival is just that, I believe prof clark has pointed it out but i will do it again the unarmed arts were for protecting your self until you could get to a weapon and and if the guy used a stick you got a bigger stick or a throwing weapon so he couldnt reach you, but you could him. We need to remember weapons are used to stop someone from hurting or killing you or the ones you love, if my nephew is surrounded by 6 guy's wanting to kick the stuffing out of him guess what im going to try to stop them when i jump in unarmed i will have to fight but if i go in with a gun for them to see i probably wont have to they will probably leave on there own '' and before anyone ask yes to protect mine i will put a hole in someone'' now isnt this the ultimate art to not have to fight ive been training for 25 years in one art or another im not fooling myself . kurtis carter --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:39:45 -0500 From: Master Mac To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Can you identify any of thesefolks from 1965? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.lacancha.com/koreaacademy.html <> I used to work for GM Kim Soo's Brother-in-Law, a Master Han - wonder if it might be the same guy. I began my MA training under GM Kim Soo's brother, and later with GM Kim Soo while at U of H. GM Kim Soo's sister made a nice Korean lunch for us one day when I was over Master Han's house. I also met Master Conrad Pickins when he was visiting Master Han. I think his name was Han Choon-nam, but I'm not positive. It's been a while - trained with Master Kim Chang-soo in '76-'77, worked for Master Han in about '78 ?? at a hotel he owned, and trained with GrandMaster Kim Pyung-soo in about '81-'82. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest