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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Billy Jack advertisements? & Barry's greif (Hindley) 2. Billy Jack (George Peters) 3. Barry, korean art in the movie (George Peters) 4. Moving to S. Korea (Dr. Daryl Covington) 5. I can now die a happy man... (Stovall, Craig) 6. Re: Martial Arts Humor (Stovall, Craig) 7. More Billy Jack and Bong Soo Han (Stovall, Craig) 8. RE: RE: Billy Jack is Back (kdiwa@optonline.net) 9. Re: Re: Martial Arts Humor (Craig Zeigler) 10. Martial Arts Humor (Gordon) 11. sul sa do HA! (Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Hindley" To: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:08:31 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Billy Jack advertisements? & Barry's greif Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Barry was Billy Jack not a Hapkido man? Actually one of the very first ones I saw that got me excited about martial arts. That's when I started bouncing my brother Jeff around the house...."I'm gonna take this foot and put it........" Now look he's a MA master. Course he would deny it as modest and humble as he is. I'm always interested in movie reviews for the fellow DDr's. PS stop getting aggravated and train, train, train... Greg >Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:30 -0400 >From: yuribeast@aol.com >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Billy Jack advertisements? >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Not that I "disliked" the original movies in particular, however I >thought this group's intention was to discuss issues involving Korean >Martial Arts, not karatie movie promotions, unless someone is going to >say Billy Jack fought with some obscure Korean fighting style? Are we >gonna start posting reviews about Jackie Chan's latest next? Also, >just the link to the review would have been sufficient don'tcha think? >Sorry for getting agrivated. >Barry --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:12:04 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Billy Jack Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sirs, Rather than wonder what Billy Jack may or may not do, I'm wondering if we can get Bong Soo Han back in somehow. Respectfully, George, --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:58 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Barry, korean art in the movie Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, May I suggest that you take a look at the films again, they introduced Hapkido to the American public. George --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Daryl Covington" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Moving to S. Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Brothers, It is with much anticipation and excitement that I annouce my family and I will be moving to S. Korea as missionaries. I realize there are many non-christians on the list, etc, but this is a great place to come for advice on other matters. As a practicing martial artist, I am excited about moving to the "homeland". Anyone willing to take the time to share with us info on living in country, I would much appreciate it. Cities to live in, expenses, etc. We are jsut now raising the support to go, so it will be a while. Thank you for your help, Grace and Peace, daryl drdarylrcovington@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:37:35 -0500 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] I can now die a happy man... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ...because I have just seen it all. www.worldcombatdating.com Sorry if this has been posted before. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:28:07 -0500 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Martial Arts Humor Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kevin writes, <<>> You bet I do. And I don't care who's watching either. I consider it a good personal health practice. <<>> Yep, I find that the larger one's that are built especially for disabled persons are JUST right for some side and roundhouse kicks. Just make sure the floor is dry. You don't want to be discovered unconscious with your head in the toilet. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:32:13 -0500 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] More Billy Jack and Bong Soo Han Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> Speaking of Bong Soo Han and the movies. Does everybody remember that movie 'The Presidio' with Mark Harmon and Sean Connery? Remember the bar scene where Sean Connery beats up that big bald dude by just hitting him with his thumb? If I recall correctly, Bong Soo Han choreographed that scene and based it on Hapkido techniques. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "kdiwa@optonline.net" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:23:57 -0400 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] RE: Billy Jack is Back Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Keanu Reeves has already signed on to play Billy Jack in the new movie. Go to this link for the info. http://www.dealmemo.com/Content/March2002/News0305.htm Kevin F. Donohue Original Message: ----------------- From: Stovall, Craig CStovall@nucorar.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:21:07 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Billy Jack is Back Billy Jack is back!!! Ohhhhhhhh, snap! Happy day, happy day, my brothers and sisters!!!!!!!! Ya know, I was born in 1970 (yes, I'm older than I act), and Billy Jack was probably one of my first "martial arts memories". I can vividly remember sitting in my living room floor next to my Dad on the couch (he was always on the couch for some reason, hmmmm), and watching Billy Jack beat up those guys in the park in front of the ice cream parlor. It was like watching something from out of this world. Of course, it wasn't until years later that I realized that these movies actually had some sort of a message. I'm still not so sure exactly what the message is supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure there's a message in there somewhere. Yeah, when I was a kid I just thought that Billy Jack was some crazy dude that liked to hang out with hippies and kick "the man" upside his big 10-gallon head. Ahhhh, the halcyon days of youth. Good times...good times. I know everybody's favorite scene is probably the one where he tells the guy, "I'm gonna take this right foot..." and then proceeds to beat up 8 or 10 guys. Or, at least Bong Soo Han proceeded to beat up 8 or 10 guys. That was pretty neat. However, MY favorite scene is the one where busts into the bedroom of the guy that had raped Billy Jack's lady friend, and straight up "croddy chopped" him Ric Flair style (WHOOOOOOO!!!) across the chest. Killed him dead...right thurrr. One shot, one kill...HIYAAAAHHHH!!! Now that's OLDE SKOOL style right there, ya'll. No wasted motion. Just pick 'em up and set 'em down. That's how Billy Jack did it. So, now they're going to make another Billy Jack movie. I think that's going to be a big mistake if Laughlin tries to reprise the role himself. I mean, let's be honest. Billy Jack had a message (at least that's what I keep telling myself), but everybody loved Billy Jack because when the time was right, and all the talking and all the hunger strikes and all the dope parties down at the hippie commune failed to bring about the necessary changes...then Billy just BROUGHT it...and he brought it with KARATE!!! You know what I mean people? So I REALLY think they need to go with a younger actor than Laughlin. I'm thinking Burt Reynolds or Robert Duvall would be good... Ok, time to wrap up this silliness. Here's my short list of who I think should play Billy Jack in the upcoming movie. 1. Henry Rollins. Why? Because it's HENRY ROLLINS! Duh!!! I'm sorry, but you either love or hate Rollins. He definitely has a physicality that translates well to the screen (he's a lifter and his neck is naturally bigger then my thighs), he's got the whole "counter-culture, pissed off" thing going, and he's got a big enough fan base that he could draw some box office on his own. Plus, being a musician he could record a song for the soundtrack. And, this time Billy Jack could do karate to some METAL instead of that crappy 'One Tin Soldier' song from the first movie. Oh great...now I've got that song stuck in my head. 2. Wesley Snipes. No, I didn't stutter, HATER! If DC Comics can turn the Green Lantern into a big, bad brother, then Billy Jack can come back as "Shaft for the Hippies". C'mon, think about it. He's athletic, he's got a great voice, and he's one of the best screen martial artists out there who can REALLY act. I think this is a great concept actually! Let's make this one a go! Oh wait, I don't run a major studio... 3. Brad Pitt. He's buff, he's popular, and he's good at playing an offbeat character (think '12 Monkeys' and 'Fight Club'). And...aaaaannnnd...he's from Missouri. Look, it's Brad Pitt...it's win-win all the way. 4. The Rock. No, on second thought he did the remake of 'Walking Tall'. Need I say more? 5. Ben Stiller. Just bear with me here...what if they made it like a comedy...real clever and tongue-in-cheek...Ben Stiller could be Billy Jack, Vince Vaughn could be the local corrupt politician, and Owen Wilson could put on a blonde wig and play Billy Jack's lady friend. Cuz let's be honest about something...Owen Wilson is WAY better looking than that chick. Oy!!! 6. Hugh Jackman. Wolverine...Van Helsing...Billy Jack...what's the difference? Same body count, different character. Jackman will bring in the women. Jessica Simpson plays the leader of the hippie daycare, and we've got a $100 million movie, folks. Believe that!!! 7. Keanu Reeves. Because let's be honest...if the money is right that man will play in ANYTHING. And last but not least... 8. Craig Stovall. Because he looks DAMN good in a denim jacket. Bam! Craig "The Silliness Continues" Stovall _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:34:21 -0400 From: Craig Zeigler To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Martial Arts Humor Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kevin Janisse wrote: >Yes, I am also guilty of doing most of these things. > >In fact I once put a hole in an Office door while practicing hook kicks. > >Here is a couple more for you: > > > >“You axe kick or front kick the urinal handle in public restrooms” > > > > Often this is much more sanitary than actually touching it with our hands. I also open the door to exit said restroom in this manner (cause many people don't wash their hands) >“You look for retaining walls with nice corners to practice your Jackie Chan >moves”. > > > >“You view Home Depot as the place to supply demolition materials…Boards & >Bricks.” > > > >“You privately practice kicks in the stall of the office restroom”. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Kevin M. Janisse > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/67 - Release Date: 8/9/2005 >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:49:04 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Martial Arts Humor Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Previously: "I almost always close my front door with a turning back kick." I don't mean to be a joy-kill about the door closing and other hand movement done with the feet, because I get the urge all the time but, my instructor looked down on this kind of behavior. Especially when interacting with the students. I remember one time showing front stance to a new student and helping them bend their front knee with a gentle press of my instep to the back of their knee. My instructor immediately called me over to the side and quietly explained that our feet are usually dirty and we shouldn't teach with our feet. He also added that he didn't like the other students arriving bare footed or wearing sandals to the Dojang, as they flip dirt and dust up onto our feet and lower legs. This makes the floor of the Dojang dirty quickly. I guess, to me, its okay when you're not in front of your students but, I guess I've come to believe its not a dignified behavior for us. Gordon --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Hapkidoman5@wmconnect.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:56:35 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] sul sa do HA! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Well it seems that the post Mr. west posted was right on the money with the sulsa do .But to be honest after reading the letter i recieved from the Hwarangdo headquarters its as clear as mudd now, excuse the hillbilly coming out in me there. here is the response i recieved. Hello Kurtis, The sulsa-do is not a true style name. The name was taken by a Korean TaeKwonDo practitioner from one section name of Hwa Rang Do techniques. They copied the name from sulsa sul that our art techniques. Currently, this guy no longer uses the name and we don't know what he’s doing now. Many imposters make their one man business and use any name that they think will attract business. This guy never even trained in the sulsa techniques nor learned any techniques of Hwa Rang Do. Thank you for you interest and concern about true martial art ways. Even Japanese Ninjitsu (silent techniques) and Ninja (assassins) are one of many techniques that a swordsman samurai uses for the mission of spying or assassinating an enemy at the direction of the shogun before the 1900's. But one guy started using the Ninjitsu name in America but in Japan there were no schools with this kind of name. Neither did Korea have any schools named Sulsa-do because that name is only one part of our whole art’s techniques. This Tae Kwon Do imposter copied our art’s techniques name and added the Do himself in America. That is how many of the Tae Kwon Do or Hwa Rang Do or Hapkido betrayers use so many different names when a man opens a solo school, changes his style name, and is only concerned about making a profit. These type of men and schools are concerned with out the value and integrity of their original art. Ins. Scott Knox Hwa Rang Do World Headquarters --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest