Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:49:05 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #331 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: living in Korea (aburrese@aol.com) 2. Re: Missionary (ISA Headquarters) 3. Living in Korea, Golgul-sa temple (Klaas Barends) 4. RE: Lok hapkido school (Jye nigma) 5. Re: Gol Gul Sa (Jye nigma) 6. Not a Master and perhaps not the person you meant? (A. Boyd) 7. Re: self defense #57 apology (Tom Kennelly) 8. Hyung as a tool (Rudy Timmerman) 9. Lok hapkido school (Gordon) 10. Matt Furey Exercises (Jesse Segovia) 11. Re: Matt Furey Exercises (Ray) 12. Journey (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:48:38 -0400 From: aburrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: living in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Daryl, I really enjoyed living and training in Kangnung (often spelled Gangneung now on maps) This city is over on Korea's East coast. For those that remember, this is where the N. Korea submarine incident took place in 1996. (I was there at the time and had to obey the curfew, etc.) There are a lot of interesting places to visit in the area. I'll be heading over to Korea in a couple weeks. (Sept. 3rd) to train with my HKD instructors there, and to enjoy the country. I'm looking forward to some of the food that I have not had since I was last over there a couple years ago. (It's been too long) One thing you should pick up is a Lonely Planet guide. It is a good start for looking for interesting places to visit while you are living there. I used mine a lot living there and on different trips to visit. Anthony posted some good advice. I found the most important thing about the countries I've visited and lived in is the attitude you take with you. Being positive and learning about the people, language and country you are visiting gets you a lot farther than being the rude American tourist. (I remember an American who was rude to a Korean airline worker at Kempo Airport one time. The guy left him and came to me, asked me a couple questions and before you knew it I was sitting in business class with a free upgrade and the rude guy was still sitting in the back, he could have been up front with me, but that's what being a rude jerk will get you some times) If you have any specifics, feel free to shoot me an e-mail and I'll try to help. Regarding my trip to Korea in a few weeks - I can't wait. Yours in Training, Alain www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "ISA Headquarters" To: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:52:04 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Missionary Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I believe that Dr. Covington will have his hands full over yonder. The Koreans he will deal with will have a disadvantage at first until they figure out that he can speak and understand their language. His martial arts ability will help him with the martial artists over there, and his deep commitment to spreading the "WORD" will either get him converts or jail time. I will be praying and supporting him full time from the safety of being stateside. Into the Lion's Den we must go to meet the Lion and make friends with it. Read what "Daniel" did in the Lion's Den (of course you must have the King James Version of the Holy Bible to do this). I respectfully submit to this group that I am with Dr. Covington 200% and promise to support him and his family in prayers and financial aid. Respectfully, George I. Petrotta ISA Director www.sungjado.org/ isahdq@sc.rr.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:17:53 +0800 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Living in Korea, Golgul-sa temple Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I would love to visit S. Korea sometime. Can I ask if you have been to > Golgul-sa Temple? If so please share your thoughts on it. I've been there, but haven't trained there.(stayed for about an hour or so) Just climbed the stairs to the Buddha statue, from which you have a very nice view. I had to guide some people around, that's why. Temple wise it isn't very special. It's just that if you go to Korea to see something very old, you won't find very much. Every plate mentions something like this: This temple/palace was build in 750 (a long time ago). Destroyed by the Japanese in 1595, rebuild and burned down again by the Japanese. The temple was again restored in 1973. But of course most people would go there for the martial arts, not just to see a nice temple. On Buddhist TV here, there is a Son monk sometimes teaching some kind of sunmudo stretching and other exercises. -- mvg. Klaas Barends Dutch H.K.D Federation http://www.hapkido.nl/ International H.K.D Training Center http://www.sangmookwan.com/ --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Lok hapkido school To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I noticed that too...A big question mark popped up when I read that...I started thinking he may have studied a chinese system...lol. Jye Rick Clark wrote: Hi Jye, I just had a look and went to the photo section and found a tab for "Sifu" - funny I never heard a Korean instructor called Sifu, its always been Sensei :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Gol Gul Sa To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net now that's what I'm interested in. did you train in their system or the one you teach/study? Jye Bob Banham wrote: Hi Jye, My wife and I stayed at Gol Gul Sa in 2002. There's an account on our website www.chilsong.com We stayed 3 days and trained with the monks. It's a wonderful place. Bob _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "A. Boyd" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Not a Master and perhaps not the person you meant? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I think the message below may have been addressed to the wrong person...? Anthony Boyd hdgdforum.com [From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" [Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Boyd [ [As a Christian and a Martial Artist, I can say that my opinion is to do what [you feel lead to do. Sit down and put things into priority. You will do the [right thing. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Tom Kennelly" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] self defense #57 apology Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:13:49 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I wonder which styles of Combat Hapkido teach this "close but no cigar" approach. My Combat Hapkido teacher reminds us over and over again that we should not muscle the technique because that is a clear indication we are applying the technique incorrectly. When I muscle a technique it is because I am making the mistake and fault not the style nor the instructor. Please enlighten me on these Combat Hapkido styles you have trained in that teach the students to muscle their techniques. BTW, on another subject, I just received my copy of the GM West DVD from the North Austin TKD seminar and I throughly enjoyed watching it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ross" To: "dojang_digest" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] self defense #57 apology > I wish you all the best in your 'Combat Hapkido' study. My >>> limited >>> exposure to Hapkido has taught me that 'close' means you must >>> muscle the >>> technique to make it work, and 'mastery' is precise angles, >>> leverages, and >>> pressure points > > My apologies to all the HKD people on the list. When I wrote the above, I > wasn't sufficently clear in my meaning. When I said a 'close' technique > meant > muscling the opponent, I was referring to one applied incorrectly, learned > incompletely, and/or taught incompetently, as in 'close, but no cigar,' > which > apparently may also apply to some styles of 'combat' HDK. > pil seung > Don Ross > In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or > knowledge of their use. > - Achille Marozzo, 1536 > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 8 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:51:22 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hyung as a tool Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Craig writes: > The reason I ask is because as you become greatly fatigued the form > will > start to suffer from a technical perspective...the kicks won't be as > high...the blocks not as crisp...the stances not as strong...the > strikes > not as fast. I know many people seek to literally attain a "perfect > form". That is, everything being just right from the cadence all the > way to the technique. Of course, practicing a form in a highly > fatigued > state would tend to engrain technique that was much less than perfect. > Hello Craig: FWIW, I find that hyung can be a wonderful tool to train both body and mind in a "sport specific" manner. I tell my students to use forms in slo mo, outside on uneven ground, all of them one after another (in four directions) to work stamina, with full power, with great precision, and any other useful way that comes to mind. Forms do, IMHO, not need to be done just in one way, because using them in a variety of manner gives this tool more flexibility. In fact, I view that the martial art of your choice can be used in a similar way. Not everyone wants to train for the same reasons, and why exclude anyone from training just because their use of martial art is a bit different than our own. I like to use martial arts to improve the people who train with me in any way that makes them a better person in their own mind, and I use the entire martial art to accomplish this goal (including the belt system). I don't get "hung up" on tradition, my own, or anyone else's specific view of what Hap Ki Do (or any other art) should or should not be. IMHO, one trains for whatever specific reason they might have, and as such the art itself merely becomes a tool to accomplish that goal. Some people go to Church to hear the Pastor, some go to show off their new clothes, some to impress their neighbors, but ALL of them are exposed to the message. Exclude the folks who don't fit the real purpose of the Church (whatever that might be), and you eliminate any chance for them to get the message. Btw, glad to see you posting again:) Rudy --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:40:29 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Lok hapkido school Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net .I just had a look and went to the photo section and found a tab for "Sifu" - funny I never heard a Korean instructor called Sifu, it's always been Sensei :-) I've seen the same thing over the years. It think many MA schools adapt a bit to fit into the community. For instance, when in Texas, all carbonated soft drinks are called a coke and you specify which flavor. In Florida, it's a washeteria not a Laundromat, and so on. Many of the MA schools I've seen have "Karate" above the door and teach; Tae Kwon Do or Kung Fu or something other than Karate. Perhaps in British Columbia, Canada, most of the schools are Kung Fu schools and everyone calls the teacher: Sifu. "When in Rome." Any way, about the Sensei thing, you guys crack me up. Gordon --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:46:19 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Matt Furey Exercises Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 'Anybody have long-time experience doing the exercises Matt Furey recommends, especially the Royal Court (Hindu squats, Hindu push-ups and bridging)? Amazing results, long-term joint pain gone, stronger than ever??? For those of you who've had knee pain, do deep Hindu squats bother your knees or do they strengthen the knees and eventually get rid of all your knee pain? I'm looking for something I can do whenever and where ever, including hotel rooms, so this regimen really appeals to me, but if it's going to make my knees worse I don't even want to start. Jesse --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Matt Furey Exercises To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.ScientificWrestling.com/letter_from_karl.htm Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Journey Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Few strangers on this journey By NICK CLARK 16aug05 WHEN an Australian martial arts team arrives in South Korea this week most of the team members will know each other well -- 13 of the 19-man team are Tasmanian. Hapkido International vice-president Scott McKinnell said Hapkido was "not so much a sport as an art". Hapkido has had a relatively strong following in Tasmania since Master Kim Jong Hyuk founded the association in the state in 2000. The Tasmanian association has 70 members. The team will be looking to repeat the success of a trip to South Korea in January last year when it won the National Moo Moo Kwan tournament. The teams present a demonstration, rather than compete in combat, and are judged on presentation, team spirit synchronisation and technical expertise. "Hapkido has a very broad range of disciplines including kicks, hand strikes, throws and restraints, weapons such as sword staffs, and disarming," Mr McKinnell, a Tasmanian police officer, said. "We will have an Australiana theme which means we will wear an akubra and use a stock whip." The 11 competitors are aged between 16 and 33 and all have the first dan blackbelt through to the third dan blackbelt. "Most have been studying between two to eight years and have been training very hard this year," Mr McKinnell said. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest