Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:01:13 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #362 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: The_Dojang advice (mark scianna) 2. Question about listing books/products on your website (Korean Martial (Ray) 3. The real interview. (david weller) 4. RE: Mrs. GM-wannabe in the news (b macdonald) 5. Re: Mrs. GM-wannabe in the news (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 04:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: mark scianna To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang advice Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm usually just a reader, but I just had to throw in my 2 cents about this trend to leave the parent association ( ITF, World KSW Assoc, etc) and become ones own entity. Sometimes these new independant schools will certify you under some other Internet friendly organization such as The World Black Belt Congress or the The International Budo Consortium, on and on and on. The other alternative is that your rank is certified by Joe, owner founder, and Grandmaster of the Korean Academy of Okinawan Gung Fu and Krav Maga. A few years ago I attended a WTF school- the owner of that school being a 2nd Dan. That owner left the WTF, and renamed his Martial Art The Mastery System. What this means I have no clue. I had occasion to revisit this school after the transformation, and found a packed Dojang. The owner, having achieved Grandmaster status, did not seem to be directly involved in teaching or running the school, but several teenage boys were handling those tasks. Not one student seemed able to throw a decent sidekick. Two branches of this school have opened up in this city amid whispers of White Belts becoming Black Belts in months time, and new teenage "Black Belts" being encouraged to drop out of school so that they could teach full time. The Grandmaster, probably in his 30's, is a terrific motivational speaker, and when I knew him, had good WTF style TKD skills, as well as some BJJ training. People with little or no Martial Arts background have no idea that this McDojang is just that, and are paying well over the average area tuition of $100 per month to receive watered down, generic training. There are schools like this all over the city. I even know of one "hapkido" school who's Black belts can spar very effectively with hand and foot protection, but could not come up with 5 takedowns or joint locks if their lives depended on it. My long winded point is this: An independant school could have a fabulous instructor who is fully capable of producing high quality Black Belts and may have just tired of his associations politics, fees, restrictions, etc. but more and more of these schools are producing an inferior product, if not an absolutely fraudulent one, and promoting unskilled and undereducated Black Belts, which tends to cast a shadow over the rest of us. The World Kuk Sool Won Assoc has very strict quality control measures when it comes to Black Belt promotion, and I know that the ITF also has strict requirements. I am quite sure the same is true for Hwarangdo and Hapkido. I know that in feudal Asia all that mattered is that you possessed martial skill, rankings, certification and licenses had no meaning. Our society is very different. You can possess all the medical knowledge in the world, but you cannot practice medicine w/o a license. Likewise in Law, Real Estate, Hairdressing, and (uh oh) Education. If we want Martial Arts to be a legitimate life path, weather it be vocation or avocation, then I relive the best way is to move away from this McDojang culture. Mark Scianna --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 07:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Question about listing books/products on your website (Korean Martial Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding.... Info about this CD from Amazon: Jason Ladd, Owner/Chief Instructor of Pyung Ahn Martial Arts, August 2005 I can certainly recommend this as a guide for the beginner, as well as a helpful reference for the advanced! Book Description This audio CD and book set provides an introduction to Hangul as well as guides to many of the terms used during Korean martial arts classes. Terms are spoken in English by an English-speaker, followed by the same term spoken in Korean, twice, by a Korean-speaker. New students will benefit from learning some of the language and terminology in advance, enabling them to more quickly understand instructions during class. Additionally, instructors may benefit by being able to refine their pronunciations. The Hangul overview in the CD companion book is designed to help Korean language learners to better understand the written language. About the Author Kay Ethier Kay Ethier is author of several technology-oriented books. A mother of three, Kay's interest in martial arts came from involvement in her children's classes. She created this book with help from experts in various forms of Korean Martial Arts. Jin Yang Jin provided the overview of Hangul, along with historical information about Korea. Jin is a first-time author. English Voice: Grandmaster Richard Byrne Byrne's Tang Soo Do Karate Studios, Boston, MA, USA Grandmaster Richard Byrne is founder and president of the American Tang Soo Do Association. Byrne is a Master of Tang Soo Do (a Korean martial art) and a black belt in Tae Kwon Do (also a Korean martial art) and Shotokan (a Japanese martial art). Byrne's dedication to and mastery of martial arts has led to three world records in board breaking, including a 2005 record for breaking 15 boards with a single elbow strike. Byrne's talents have garnered him international recognition, roles in several action-adventure motion pictures and television shows, speaking engagements, book deals, and his own series of instructional videotapes. Byrne is a trainer (an 8th Dan in Tang Soo Do Karate) and president and founder of Byrne's Tang Soo Do Karate Studios, Boston, MA. He is also the author of "The Complete Art of Breaking" and "This is Tang Soo Do". Korean Voice: Master Dohyun Chang Team Captain, Korean Tigers Professional Demonstration Team Team Captain, Yong-in University Hapkido Team Coach, North Carolina State Team, 1998-present Coach, U.S. National Team, 1997 World Championships--Hong Kong Technical Committee, Pan American Taekwondo Union Solo performance--Opening Ceremony, Dr. Un Yong Kim International Taekwondo Cup England 1997 Excerpted from Learning Korean: Martial Arts Terminology by Kay Ethier. Copyright 2005. Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved. This Korean language book serves as a companion to the CD of the same name. The goal in providing this book and CD set is to ensure students of Korean martial arts learn the Korean terms used in class. This set is designed to assist the students and parents in expanding their learning. In some ways, it may even prove helpful to those who plan to teach but have not fully grasped the pronunciation while earning their own belts. Within this book, any section with a "Track" number will have a corresponding audio track on the CD. Listening to the Korean speaker's pronunciations should aid students in learning correct pronunciation. This CD and book set was created with assistance from experts in language learning and Korean martial arts. For this book, information has been gathered regarding different forms of Korean martial arts. Terminology from one form to another was compared. Masters, black belts, and Korean speakers were interviewed. One thing became clear: terms used from one do jang to the next are different. Also, terms used by Korean speakers and those by martial arts practitioners may vary. Finally, pronunciations differ; for example, one speaker might pronounce a word with a "D" sound while another speaker might use a "T" sound for the same word. Similar differences exist for "B" and "P" sounds. For more details and terminology, it is recommended that you consult the master of the do jang where you study. Notes pages have been included herein so that as your vocabulary expands you may make notes. Hello: I would like to know if it is possible to list our Korean martial arts terminology book+CD set on your website. It is currently shown on our website under "Products", as well as at Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0977122204 . Please do let me know if we might add this to your online catalog, or even provide a set for your team to review. Any help you might provide in our reaching our audience would be appreciated. Thank you, Kay -------------------------------------- Kay Ethier Above and Beyond Language Learning Inc. 6709 Valley Woods Lane Cary, North Carolina 27519 USA PHONE: 1.919.244.8559 FAX: 1.919.474.9223 http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com -------------------------------------- * Providing the world with language and technology learning products, because communication is key! --__--__-- Message: 3 From: david weller Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:17:43 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] The real interview. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Here is a transcript of the real conversation that Mrs. H had with the reporter: Mi Yi: "Please help me, this fat man is holding me hostage!" H's translation: "I love being married to a martial arts and television star." Mi Yi: "I thought I was singing up for a foreign exchange program, then I find out I had married this slob." H:"Mi Yi says she was eager to move to America, and and can't believe her good fortune in finding a hunk like me." Mi Yi: "Please help me! Don't let him take me back to his kitchen, I'm afraid we will run out of food and he will eat me. Look at him, he has already eaten several students. Warn the children!!" H: "I love to cook for my husband. Since he is an elite athlete I have to prepare special meals for him. He also loves children." (product of Labor Day boredom) dave weller On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:00 AM, the_dojang- request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > she said as her husband translated. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "b macdonald" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Mrs. GM-wannabe in the news Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:48:27 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net just to make a little correction. In Taekwon do you do not reach Master until you are a 7th Dan not 5th Dan. >From: Ray >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) >Subject: [The_Dojang] Mrs. GM-wannabe in the news >Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 07:16:05 -0700 (PDT) > >Black belt shares her recipe for well-being >Lori Carter | Special to the Sentinel >Posted September 4, 2005 > >CLERMONT -- Growing up in South Korea, Mi Yi Hackworth never thought >she would have a career in martial arts. > >But Hackworth, 45, has found her niche. > >A fifth-degree black belt (master) in tae kwon do and a sixth-degree >black belt (master) in both hapkido and shim ki do, Hackworth, one of a >few woman to obtain such ranks in three martial arts, opened American >Dragon Martial Arts Academy one month ago in Clermont. > >Her husband, Richard Hackworth, has an eighth-degree black belt in >hapkido and sixth-degree black belt in tae kwon do. > >In South Korea, Mi Yi Hackworth said, she liked martial arts but "men >would open schools and women would manage them." > >When Richard Hackworth opened his school in 1994 in Ocoee, she helped >with teaching the arts until the school closed in 2004. Then she >decided to open her own school. > >American Dragon teaches the traditional Korean military and healing >arts, which include tae kwon do, hapkido and shim ki do, "the Korean >art of health and wellness." > >"It's not just self-defense," she said as her husband translated. "It's >a way to improve your health. It helps develop mind, body and spirit to >make a well-rounded person." > >Ronald Stone, 52, has taken classes with Mi Yi Hackworth for two years, >the past month at the Clermont school. > >He has studied martial arts off and on for 30 years at schools >throughout the country. > >"I enjoy class with her," Stone said. "I have been able to get a better >perspective on the correct meaning and application of techniques due to >her intimate knowledge of her culture and art." > >Each year, Mi Yi Hackworth returns to South Korea with students to test >for a higher rank of black belt. During the 2002 trip, she attended >Kukkiwon, the World Tae Kwon Do Academy. > >"She was excited to go," Richard Hackworth said. "You have to be >recommended by an instructor or master." > >The three-month course included acupuncture, natural herbal medicine, >chiropractic therapy and massage. > >In 1996 and 2000, Mi Yi Hackworth was involved in near-fatal accidents. > >She was told that she would never walk again each time, she said, but >with the "discipline from the martial arts and self-healing and >self-massage," she was able to come back. > >She hopes her work can help others as well. > >"It makes me feel good to help people," she said. >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSNŽ Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Mrs. GM-wannabe in the news To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > just to make a little correction. In Taekwon do you do not reach Master > until you are a 7th Dan not 5th Dan. She is Kukki-Taekwondo, aka Korean Taekwondo aka WTF. 4th Dan or 5th is Master rank. You are thinking of the ITF. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest