Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:01:15 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #371 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. soft break (sidekicks) 2. Re: GM Timmerman (Dewitt, Garrett) 3. Re: You "Play" hapkido? (jakskru) 4. Re: ranges (jakskru) 5. Player (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "sidekicks" To: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:29:03 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] soft break Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Timmerman wrote: > Very few pass the test (it IS hard, and I impress that upon students > before they begin), many quit because they can't handle it, some will > persevere and try again and again (and I will stick with them), and > one or two will inevitably blame ME for not being able to handle it. > Alas, that is life:( BTW, I must commend SBN Miner (one of the new > Canadian friends you met) for his dedication and perseverance... > after umpteen tries over the span of a year, he learned to relax and > made his break. From now on it will be easier SBN Miner:) More > importantly, you have learned that muscular power is not the only > thing you have in your arsenal:) thank you sir. learning to relax is not something I am very good at.over the past year I think I have hit that stoopid piece of concrete a 1000 times with each hand.it wouldn't break. even when I got mad and tried to power break, still nothing.it was one of the best feelings to have it finally break. after experiencing your testing last year in November, I agree 110% that it is a hard test.when I received an email a week before the test reminding all participants to chew up their food into small bits as that makes it easier to clean up, I knew it was going to be a rough night!!! Dusty, Sabum --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dewitt, Garrett" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net.'" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:44:11 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: GM Timmerman Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Grandmaster Rudy W. Timmerman Wrote: People will no doubt recognize that this post is directed at me by one of my former students. I will not engage in rebutting these statements, and people who have known me for many years will see me for what I am. All I can say is best wishes in your new venture Lorne. Rudy Good Afternoon. Being a student of Grandmaster Timmerman's since approximately 1999, I am greatly saddened by this post. I have been involved with the Korean martial arts for a bit over twenty-eight years now and I have had my share of being "kicked around," "continuously lied to," "verbally/physically attacked by a former instructor" and even verbally degraded by my own students here as soon as they "knew it all within the Korean martial arts and thus, decided to dump me/us. Although the emotions say "to go after such and such, hit back hard," WISDOM DICTATES OTHERWISE." Throughout all of those years, if I was offended by others, I talked to them face to face regarding whatever issues I heard or believed happened to demean me. I would not now nor will I ever publicly verbally attack or degrade those whom I know or believe have/has demeaned me. The truth will always come. I have the utmost respect for Grandmaster Timmerman. He accepted me and my dojang when the chips were down and a few specific "worldly known" TKD organizations were financially sucking the life out of us and destroying my student population with their lies/deceitfulness. I know a bit about Grandmaster Timmerman and Master Keatley. I have learned a lot from both, I am proud to be a member of the NKMAA and this type of post makes for a very sad day indeed. Regards to all. Garrett --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "jakskru" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] You "Play" hapkido? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:11:23 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net better to be a player than a player hater....(what? someone had to say it!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] You "Play" hapkido? > In response to the "HapKiDo in Phoenix" post Curt McCauley wrote "you play > HapKiDo?". Curt you obviously don't know anything about the the man who used > the term "HapKiDo player" --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "jakskru" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] ranges Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net yes, but some have a stronger range than others...i for one am strongest in short to medium range, but weaker as a kicker....that doesnt mean that i cant or wont kick, just not my strongest area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] ranges > Mr. Nigma > > Your question about importance's of a particular range is odd to me. All the > ranges are equally important. It is like asking which of the four tires on > your car are most important. If one range is not there, you are not well > rounded, and in-effective as a fighter. > > JCGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Player Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The first time I heard "player" used wrt martial arts was 1984, from a Korean instructor. Yes, it seemed strange to me for the first 5 mins, but after a wee bit of reflection it seemed a very natural term to use. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest