Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:58:15 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #403 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. video clips: Taekwonmudo? (Jye nigma) 2. video clip: TKD KO (Jye nigma) 3. KHF President (FRANK CLAY) 4. Re: Sore Loser (Taekwondo America) 5. Alain's Request (Ken McDonough) 6. reality shows (Brooke Thomas) 7. Chungju festival (Ray) 8. Gumdo (Ray) 9. FWIW (Ray) 10. Sore Loser (Gordon) 11. Re: Authentic Korean Swords company - seeking (Robert Frankovich) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:30:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com Subject: [The_Dojang] video clips: Taekwonmudo? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=2 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=1 http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=1 --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:37:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com Subject: [The_Dojang] video clip: TKD KO Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.itokwan.org/ito/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=36 --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "FRANK CLAY" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:00:42 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] KHF President Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I don't think Master Yoon is. The KHF is headed by Master Oh, Se Lim. Frank _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:27:35 -0500 From: Taekwondo America To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sore Loser Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Yes, some folks believe that you have nothing to offer them, teaching-wise, unless you can beat them up. Fine. While I don't agree, I understand the thought process. Some folks are genuinely clueless about how much power they have. It takes so much effort for a big man to even pick up his leg above belt level that control is very difficult once he does. The scenario you describe is exactly what we do, in either case. Cheryl Rogers Denton Taekwondo Academy Gordon wrote: >Without fail, the Instructor at the time takes him first. After admonishing >him about his excessive use of force, the instructor will end the round and >put him with an opponent smaller than the big man, usually 2dn dan or higher >with instructions to admonish then strike back with equal force. > >These instructions are given with a glance, with the big man unaware. There >is nothing malicious in this. Just like rearing children, we all must learn >to play well with others. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:42:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken McDonough To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Alain's Request Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net For Alain: Yo, you requestd some techniques for your next set of tapes. Why not do a general Mayhem street attack approach. When the heat is on in the street, whadda goin do, for xample: - Eye gouges - groin shots - knee shattering techniques - Glock in the hip routine - Escort with duck tape - Rib breakin maneuvers - Thumb tacks up the wassu - Spit and shake - Snot and Farts= can have a place in your arsenal - Knucklehead routines - "I got HIV" shouting techniques - Gay techniques - The Fag or Flag routine - Wino's cleanin the windshield routine - Watermelon pit shooting stuff - Pea shooters are still in - Hoola hops and waiste techniques - Snatch an eyeball routine Just a few ideas. Oh, as I write this the 40 x 80 workshop and workout area is going up. Doing the foundation work this week. The workout area will have a shower and commode. A dream come true. Will have the boxing equipment, mats, weights, a Mook Jung (sic), and hot pics of Pamela Anderson. It will be the bomb ! Finally settled in down in San Antonio. Learning Spanish. The ladies are lovely, the food is good, the weather mild, and I am livin large. So, give me a shout out to the best schools in San Antonio. Can be mixed martial arts. I am primarily interested in street survival routines. Not traditional stuff, although it certainly has its place. Has anyone heard of the following schools in San Antonio: - Fighting Wolf - Dragon Martial Arts - Modern Combatives - Modern Urban Survival - Krav Magna School Big Ken down in Big Texas "Kill or Be Killed" --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:06:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooke Thomas To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] reality shows Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Speaking of reality shows...how many of you out there are following "The Ultimate Fighter 2" series on Spike TV? This season they have only had maybe one good fight (welterweights), and the recent heavyweight match was a little unusual due to a lot of high kicks thrown and landed. Also, it's been interesting to note that getting through one of these "matches" uninjured is rare...often even the 'winner' goes to the hospital right after the match. -Brooke --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Chungju festival Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Chungju Hopes to See Martial Arts Festival Evolve Into Olympics 10-07-2005 Korea Times CHUNGJU, South Korea (Yonhap) - As a white-haired grand master darts around a sound stage batting away sword thrusts with an Oriental paper fan, Han Cheol-hwan dreams of his city hosting the Martial Arts Olympics. ``We've started making preparations, but at the moment it's still only an idea,'' said the vice mayor of this city of 220,000 in North Chungchong Province, home to the government-subsidized Chungju World Martial Arts Festival that runs from Oct. 1-8. ``Last year we started a movement to really enlarge the festival and promote it as a global martial arts Olympics,'' Han added. ``But even though our government totally supports us, other countries aren't as fortunate.'' The festival, now in its eighth year, transforms this provincial city 140 kilometers south of Seoul into a virtual Noah's Ark for the world's combatants for seven to 10 days. Under the mid-week burning sun, Filipino fighters lunge at each other with rusty knives and orange-robed Shaolin monks from China make tiger stances next to a giant digital screen. Meanwhile, the original Korean fighting art of tekkyon tries not to concede too much ground to rivals like the Afro-Brazilian art of capoeira, created in the 1500s by African slaves and sure to send pulses racing in Korea with its break dance-style kicks and headspins. But tekkyon, intangible cultural asset No. 76 as of June 1983 and the official reason why the festival is held, is fast becoming a pawn in the high-stakes game of municipal promotion. Now Han wants to use it to help charter Chungju, once famous for its apples and natural spa, into the annals of history. ``This year we've had 65 teams come from around the world, but next year we want to have competitions, sell tickets and introduce rules and regulations,'' he said. With South Korea's eastern town of Pyongchang failing in its bid for the 2010 Winter Olympics and taekwondo facing the chop as an Olympic sport after Beijing 2008 unless it reforms its staid rules, provincial Korea is crying out for people like Han to put it on the world map and give it a global sense of identity. Former mayor Lee Si-jong, now a National Assemblyman, launched the festival in 1997 as a national tekkyon tournament and changed the format in 2000 by making it an international show of all the fighting arts. Dance performances and ample amounts of tanned Brazilian flesh in green paint, snake masks and little else added an extra edge to the testosterone-fueled event. Lee gave an opening ceremony speech on Saturday during which he expressed amazement at the effect on local residents of what now stands as the biggest show of its kind on Earth. ``Chungju has become more global-minded,'' Lee told Yonhap News Agency at the festival. ``I noticed that when it first started local people would run away if they saw someone from Africa, but now they run up to them and ask for a photo. They've become more confidant.'' ``What he has done is really remarkable,'' said Kim Gui-jin, president of the Korea Kyuktooki (kickboxing) Association.``Before the festival, local martial arts didn't get much publicity, but now they're getting to be part of the global community.'' Good news for Chungju, but maybe not for tekkyon, which has a turbulent history of political and cultural suppression and now risks being eclipsed again. Which might explain why taekwondo, the baby brother who now dwarfs it 100 times over, is practically the only martial art not on the guest list. Halfway through the eight-day event, some of the invitees knew of hapkido and taekwondo, but were clueless when it came to tekkyon. ``What is it?'' asked one member of the African stick-fighting team on Wednesday. "Tekkyon is the origin of oriental martial arts," said master Chon Jong-yeap, also vice chief of the festival's organizing committee. ``Chungju is the tekkyon Mecca and the purpose of this festival is to globalize the art.'' Composed of three parts, pumbalgi (graceful steps), hwalgaejit(circular motions with the arms) and palchagi (the act of kicking), tekkyon stretches back through the centuries and, according to noted Korean scholar Shin, was exported to China some 1000 years ago where it evolved into Chinese boxing. Legend has it that during the Goryeo Kingdom (918-1392) a soldier's promotion depended on his skill at the acrobatic art that fuses elements of what we know as tai-chi and kung-fu. The next millennium saw it crumble under a number of mighty opponents, including the Joseon Dynasty (1392-1910), when all martial arts were played down, the imperial Japanese, who outlawed it from 1907-45, and the World Taekwondo Association, who added the final nail by building its successor into an Olympic sport for Sydney 2000. In addition to that, Cheon, who spent Wednesday being trailed by a Ukrainian film crew, now has to contend with every exotic fighting art ever invented. ``Two years ago, we tried to combine the different arts, but the output was no good, not interesting, no punching or kicking, (opponents were) just watching (each other),'' he said, killing off any idea of the festival emerging as a mixed martial art tournament like K-1. Announcer Christine Lee said tekkyon pales in comparison to some of its rivals. ``Without it we can't continue this festival, but it doesn't get much popularity. Korean wu-shu (kung fu) is the best, it attracts so much attention. And capoeira, Shaolin and hapkido,'' she said. Nathan Dominguez of the Philippines' national arnis team, which mixes long and short blades, sticks and unarmed combat, disagreed. ``It's very harmonious, very Korean. Personally, I like the philosophy. It's non-confrontational, however they get the job done. Nothing in excess,'' he said. However, as far as the National Assemblyman, Lee, is concerned, tekkyon's future is small fry compared to the benefits the festival heralds for the city, state and the field of sports. ``Just think, the martial arts Olympics might be even better than the original Olympics,'' he said. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Gumdo Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Students get instruction in cutting-edge martial art Korean style focuses on use of swords The Arizona Republic Oct. 7, 2005 In unison, more than 20 people brought their swords down fiercely, tearing through the air with a dramatic swoosh. Dressed in martial-arts attire, students from across the Valley came together at the Wigwam Golf Resort & Spa recently to learn haidong gumdo, a form of Korean swordsmanship, from one of the world's best teachers. Haidong gumdo is a deadly art that dates back more than 2,000 years and is based on actual sword combat, said master Jeong Woo Kim, head of education for the World Haidong Gumdo Federation in Korea. Kim said the beauty of sword combat is that it is a timeless art, which goes back to the time when Koreans in the mountains used it to survive. "I hope America and the whole world will enjoy this martial art," Kim said. "It's about focus, spirit, controlling mind and body in order to control everything else. We used swords in the past, we use them now, and we'll use them again in the future." There are about 1,700 haidong gumdo schools around the world. Arizona is home to three, in Tucson, north Phoenix and Gilbert. Another will open early next year in Litchfield Park, said master instructor Jerry Laurita of Laurita Martial Arts in north Phoenix. Haidong gumdo is a martial art that has been popular on the East Coast for more than a decade but gained popularity in the West when Kim brought it to Arizona three years ago, Laurita said. Most noted for its complete body workout, haidong gumdo has drawn interest from young and old alike. Student Racheal Maus, 15, she said she was glad to have a chance to practice the skills she's been working on. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] FWIW Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just an fyi... I am now back in sunny Calif, having returned from Ohio last night. I again want to thank all of those that emailed and wrote me with their condolences. It is greatly appreciated. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:00:57 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Sore Loser Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Craig wrote: That is what takedowns are for. If the person refuses to give up, simply take them down and pin them so they can't get away again. This isn't supposed to be necessary in an art that requires discipline, who whatever. This can be done pretty easily without actually hurting anyone. Just keep control first in your mind, and try not to embarrass them. When you have them on the ground in a submission hold, and in a lot of pain mind you, and they still refuse to give up, this is pride. Embarrassing them is what is required. Humility is a beginning. Pride is not. Without humility, we are full of ourselves and cannot learn something new. Without humility, he is done as a student in our school. Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Frankovich To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Authentic Korean Swords company - seeking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You could also check www.kendogumdo.com. Its run by a U.S. Haidong Gumdo guy near Chicago (I believe). > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jye nigma > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Authentic Korean Swords > company - seeking info > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > thanks for the website...I liked the first Qing > Dynasty sword under antiques! > > Jye > > > Howard Spivey wrote: > Hello, > > Several months back, somebody posted a link on DD to > this company's website > (www.shjmdragon.com). They appear quite legitimate. > ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest