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RE: Dan Bon [John Chu] (Dana Vaillancourt) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Amcreva Drogovah" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:50:14 -0300 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: RE: ITF or WTF Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I would just like to clairify with you that most taekwondo schools that teach WTF will teach the students to have the arms up. The old habit, I think comes from the fact that punching isn't the focus of tournament sparring. Now that punching is being enstated bad habits like having your hands down will lead to big problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help protect your PC with Virus Guard from MSN Premium: Join now and get the first two months FREE* --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] USA TKD announces new BoD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net USA Taekwondo Announces New Board of Directors October 14, 2005 USA Taekwondo, the national governing body for the sport of Taekwondo in the United States, has announced its newly-formed 10-member Board of Directors. Elected to the Board were John Holloway (Silver Spring, Md.) as Referee Director, Ronda Sweet (Gretna, La.) as Grassroots Director (elected by clubs), Robert Gallagher (Littleton, Colo.) as Grassroots Director (elected by the National Association of State Taekwondo Organizations), Jason Poos (Oklahoma City, Okla.) as Coach Director, and Eric Laurin (Carmel, Ind.) as Athlete Advisory Committee representative to the U.S. Olympic Committee. Appointed Board members were Mike Friello (Schenectady. N.Y.) as Affiliated Organization Director, and Independent Directors Harvey Berkey (Englewood, N.J.), Perry Toles (Roswell, N.M.) and Richard Carstens (Glen Ellyn, Ill.). The final Board position of USA Taekwondo AAC representative will be filled by one of the six athletes elected to the USAT AAC. They include Laurin, Jason Han (Monterey Park, Calif.), Tim Thackrey (Tarzana, Calif.), Steven Lopez (Sugar Land, Texas), Linda Buell (San Leandro, Calif.) and one additional athlete to be determined by a runoff vote among six candidates: Paris Amani (Houston, Texas), Christina Bayley (Dayton, Ohio), Javier Bolivar (Houston, Texas), Daniel Elkowitz (Richmond, Texas), Diana Lopez (Sugar Land, Texas) and Mark Lopez (Sugar Land, Texas). The winner of the runoff election will be announced after the Oct. 25 deadline. The six-member USAT AAC will then select which athlete on the committee will fill the Athlete Director position on the USAT Board of Directors. In addition, an alternate AAC representative to the USOC will be announced after the Oct. 21 deadline. "We feel these individuals will provide great leadership for USA Taekwondo based on their breadth of business and Taekwondo experience," said USA Taekwondo Chief Executive Officer Bob Gambardella. Steve Locke, chair of the USAT Governance and Management Committee shared Gambardella's feelings. "The Taekwondo community should be proud of the top-level talent nominated for the various Board positions," Locke said. "Any one of the nominees would have served as superb Board members." The new members of the Board are eager to begin working toward the future of USA Taekwondo. "It's quite an honor," said Holloway of his election. "There is a lot of work to do but I'm looking forward to contributing to the exciting times ahead for all the athletes. We have the players and now we have a good organization to keep it going." "This is a new day," Sweet said of the newly formed Board. "It's a culmination of years of work to finally be in a position to implement ideas for the members, and an opportunity to make the organization what the members want." "I'm very excited to have this opportunity placed in my hands," said NASTO Grassroots Director Gallagher. "I look forward to working with the state organizations to alleviate some of the burdens of the national governing body and the executive committee so they can focus on the greater needs of the athletes. Athlete development is a main priority. When you improve the grassroots levels, the upper levels will also improve." "I'm very honored and excited to help my sport that I've been involved with for so long," Poos said. "I hope to represent the coaches and membership to the best of my ability." On his Athlete Advisory Committee role, Laurin stated "I look forward to doing all I can so the athletes have a voice in every way, shape and form in the organization." Friello was appointed Adirondack Chairman of the AAU's Taekwondo program in 1988 and three years later was appointed National Sport Chair for AAU Taekwondo - a position maintained to this date. "This is a tremendous opportunity not just for me personally and the AAU Taekwondo Program in general to have its representative chosen to serve as the Affiliated Organization Director on the new USAT Board of Directors, but for all of Taekwondo," Friello said of his appointment. "It clearly demonstrates that a new day is dawning on the United States Taekwondo scene and the new USAT is ready to promote itself as a more all-inclusive, forward thinking organization." Berkey, a 4th-degree black belt has practiced Taekwondo for nearly 20 years and also coached several elite-level athletes. "I am honored to have been chosen to serve some of America's best athletes as a member of the USAT Board," Berkey said. "The United States has embraced this Olympic Sport, understanding it is a foundation for providing our children with the life skills necessary for them to realize their dreams, whether in the competitive arena or as a part of everyday life. I look forward to working with the talented members of the Board and executive operating officers of USAT." Toles is president and manager of The Toles Company, LLC, a family-owned business focused in oil, gas and real estate properties in Roswell, N.M. He was a member of the 1987 modern pentathlon national team that competed in the 1987 world championships. Toles also won a silver medal at the 1987 U.S. Olympic Festival and bronze medals at the 1985 and 1986 U.S. Olympic Festivals. In addition, he competed at the 1989 World Triathlon Championships and served as athlete liaison at the 1989 summer and winter World University Games and the 1992 Winter Olympic Games. "I am looking forward to serving USAT and the exciting and noble sport of Taekwondo," said Toles. "In their pursuit of sustained competitive excellence, Taekwondo athletes deserve a Board of Directors that is excellent in governance. To this end I pledge my efforts to help govern a successful, respected and unified USA Taekwondo." Carstens, a pilot with American Airlines, has three children ranging in age from 3 to 11 who are active in Taekwondo. "I have no agenda, just a commitment to serve with honor and integrity," said Carstens. "I have the love of athletics and the love of competition, and I bring a certain mindset to the organization. I will strive to make USA Taekwondo the best in the world." Per Section 7.9 of the USA Taekwondo bylaws, the new Board members will serve staggered terms. The term of office for the following members will expire on December 31, 2006: Richard Carstens - Independent Director TBD - USAT AAC rep John Holloway - Referee Director Jason Poos - Coach Director Robert Gallagher - NASTO Grassroots Director The term of office for the following members will expire on December 31, 2008: Harvey Berkey - Independent Director Perry Toles - Independent Director Eric Laurin - USOC AAC rep Ronda Sweet - Grassroots Director Mike Friello - Affiliated Organization Director --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] 2006 World Cup Team Competition Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Update to the 2006 World Cup Team Competition October 12, 2005 USA Taekwondo has just received additional information from the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) concerning the 2006 World Cup Team Championships to be held in Bangkok, Thailand. The 2006 World Cup Team Competition will replace the 2006 World Cup competition and will take place September 29-October 1, 2006. In accordance with the Rules & Regulations promulgated by the WTF, the championship is limited to 24 male and 24 female teams. As indicated in the WTF Competition Rules, Article 6.1.2: there will be five contestants each from male and female divisions who will be categorized according to five weight classifications. **NOTE: The traditional World Championship format and weight classes will not be used for this competition. Despite the changes in 2006 World Cup Team Championships competition dates and format as indicated by the WTF, USA Taekwondo will continue with the Senior National Team selection process as it relates to the Senior National Championships that will take place in San Jose, California, October 27-30, 2005. The format of this competition will not be changed. The top four finishers in each weight division of the Senior National Championships will advance to a Round Robin Fight-Off Tournament which will occur on a date yet to be determined. However, the Selection Procedures for the 2006 World Cup competition that were previously posted on USA Taekwondo's website will otherwise be revised to reflect the new format of the 2006 World Cup Team Championships and this competition date. To reflect the weight division changes and revised competition format, please know that USA Taekwondo is currently working on creating new Selection Procedures for the 2006 World Cup Team Championships. As indicated, these new Selection Procedures will provide for the top four athletes in each weight division of the world-class division of the Senior National Championships to advance to the Round Robin Fight-off and these athletes will have the option of choosing the weight division in which they will choose to compete for the 2006 World Cup Team Championships and the Round Robin Fight-Off Tournament that will be used as part of the 2006 World Cup Team Championship Selection Procedures. The date and location of the Round Robin Fight-off has not yet been determined and will be included in the new Selection Procedures for the 2006 World Cup Team Championships and will be posted to the USAT web-site. Please be assured that USA Taekwondo will continue to keep you updated with respect to this new competition and the Selection Procedures for determining the members of USA Taekwondo's World Cup Team Competition Team. Thank you for your continued patience and understanding on this matter. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Scandals rock China's national games Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Scandals rock China's national games October 17, 2005 20:09 IST Charges of match fixing and skewed judges have trumped sporting achievements at China's tenth National Games, an event seen as a dry run to the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Scandal is not new to the domestic sporting extravaganza, at which provinces desperate to bring home glory offer native athletes rewards for medals that can even surpass those offered by Beijing to Olympic champions. Jiangsu province, which is hosting the competition, is at the top of medal table with half the games over. [snip] The biggest fuss has surrounded the taekwondo and judo competitions. "Insiders say that in taekwondo, conceding matches has become rampant, and the problem is even more serious than that in judo," the domestic Sports Weekly newspaper said on Monday. In the women's 67 kg taekwondo competition involving 19 athletes, champion Zhao Yang of Jiangsu took the title after only one match, and Olympic champion Luo Wei, also a Jiangsu native, faced just one opponent on route to a fourth-place finish. FINAL REHELD On Saturday, the finals of the women's 78 kg judo event were reheld after Liaoning province athlete Sun Fuming was accused of deliberately losing to Yan Sirui, representing Liaoning and the People's Liberation Army team, in the original final on Thursday. "They are both from Liaoning, so whoever wins the title doesn't matter," coach Liu Yongfu was quoted as saying. Yan ended up holding on to her gold, while Liu received a warning from China's Olympic organisers. Even before competition began, three Chinese wrestling judges were banned for life after being charged with taking bribes in run-up matches to the national games. To prevent rigging of soccer matches, games organisers have introduced controversial rules that all matches must end with a clear winner and loser, meaning draws will go to an immediate penalty shootout. "The organisers explained that they adopted the rules in a bid to prevent match-fixing, which has beset the sport in the country in recent years," Xinhua said. Liu Peng, head of China's General Administration of Sports, vowed after the judo finals scandal to show "no mercy" to rule-breaking athletes or officials at the games. "We must uphold justice in sport," Xinhua quoted him as saying. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:28:31 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Scandals rock China's national games Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Isn't the industrial revolution is just now hitting China? It appears to me that they are building their municipal infrastructure while leaving the social/moral aspects in the past. It still looks like people are afraid of "the party" in the People's Republic of China. I guess the lies and half truths of communism are difficult to overcome. Kinda makes you appreciate the good ol' US of A, a little more don't it. Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: sam saenz To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF or WTF Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I would definitely agree with that. I would not teach my students to spar hands down, just because punches to the face are not allowed. In the street, anything goes. Definitely some bad habits to form. I received my 1st Dan through WTF, but now am training ITF. I, as well, like the forms, but also like the WTF forms. In my opinion, WTF sparring needs to change the format so that it helps the competitors keep there hands up. There is no way that WTF sparring would be in anyway helpful in a real life confrontation, unless the practioner is extemely fast, but even then, they are at high risk. Just my opinion. Sam Saenz IV Dan United Martial Arts Society __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Michael Whalen" To: "dojang digest" Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:09:56 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: cane stuff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >My Combat hapkido dojo offers to teach us some of >> the basics. I am wanting to learn, and in a few years I suspect I will be >> using one, so now is the time to learn, but is it really effective? > >Cane Masters just shows the basic HKD cane techniques. > >But consider... When/if you actually need to use and rely on a cane which >techniques will be most useful to you? > >You will likely have neither good balance nor mobility, so focus on those >techniques that you can do on only one leg. Think about it... ------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- I am currently working on the KSW cane basics not so much as an age issue (yet), but where in the USA can you carry a weapon into a courthouse, on a plane, walking at the park or down the street at night...? You can bring a cane to all of these. Not to say that it would totally protect you but I feel it's better than being empty handed. My wife also carries hers when walking with our grand daughter to protect herself against a possible stray dog attack.......... michael whalen kswnut --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "jakskru" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkido Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:23:13 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net there seems to be two ways to teach the technique, situationally and stand alone...if it is taught stand alone, then you learn a mastery of the technique early on, but sacrifice the "when to use it" muscle memory part....if you learn the technique situationally, then you sacrifice the "mastery" part....so i was wondering which way is the better method to learn, or if there is such a thing. i think that learning situationally is better, because you can always work on mastery on your own time...but then, i am not a teacher, just a learner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jae Stulock" To: Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkido > Personally I like to learn a whole technique. It > seems like you are just adding more steps to learning > something if you start with too basic a concept. If I > have a question on the mechanics of a technique I can > break it down. I find it flows much easier (water > principle). If a "whole technique" is stored in the > muscle hard drive I find I feel more comfortable > adding movement and softening technique sooner. > ~Jae --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:47:37 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Dan Bon [John Chu] Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It was nice to hear about Master John Chu. He put one of my past (retired) instructors in for a letter of commendation from Korea. My instructo'rs instructor, Herman Beal from North Carolina (Air Force), trained under Master Chu. I'd welcome any news of Mr. Beal to pass on if anyone knows him or his where abouts. Dana > >Message: 2 >From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" > >Master Chu had many schools around Texas. After his death (My instructor) >Master Kris Poole of Longview ---Master Ted Smith of Tyler, Texas ---and >Master Phillip Duncan of Henderson, Texas (Executive Administrator for the >US >Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Fed. Inc. created a Flag and an association in his >memory called the KSC Memorial Association. This Flag and a picture of >Master >Chu still hangs in my Do-Jang in honor of my roots. Another of his students >Jack Yoder of Longview, Texas researched Tae Kwon Do after Master Chu's >death. He later joined the ATA. One of his students Master Sam >Phumjunkton >now runs that school which is one of the largest TKD schools in Longview, >but >we come from the same roots. > >I though you find this interesting. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest