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Today's Topics:

   1. Chinese Qi (FRANK CLAY)
   2. RE: several items (J R Hilland)
   3. Vets day (Ray)
   4. what should I do (james thomas)
   5. Veteran's Day (ABurrese@aol.com)
   6. RE: Vets day (Trey Singletary)
   7. Re: what should I do (jakskru)
   8. Re: what should I do (masterm1)
   9. Working in the USA (Edmund T)
  10. Re: Working in the USA (masterm1)

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Message: 1
From: "FRANK CLAY" <frankclay@msn.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:45:44 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Chinese Qi
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Wes:

"1. the Chinese tend to be more passive in their
development,(they usually don't do activity with their
Ki training) as versus the Korean Ki training is more
active physically."

Where do you get this from? It is simply not true. Pal Dan Kum is Ba Duan 
Jin, Then there is the matter of Iron Thread which is decidedly difficult 
when done properly.

Before making blanket statements one should consider if they have done 
adequate research to make such a statement.

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Message: 2
From: "J R Hilland" <hapkido@wah.midco.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:22:18 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: several items
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<<<If you have a good foundation, you can see a technique in a video and
learn it, especially if it is just a variation of something you already
know.>>>

Well said Alain. I admit that I used to watch videos for the purpose that
you and Michael mentioned. Every art I could get my hands on. These days
though, I also confess that I mainly only watch good hapkido DVD to see
variation of something I know and to remember a technique I forgot long ago!
With the vast number of hapkido techniques and an aging memory, it really
does help, but don't tell anyone. :) I am not interested in someone's
hapkido curriculum, just good technique.

Are you going to be moving to the world of DVD's with your 3 videos? I
bought a converter to move all my old tapes (over 100) to DVD. Something to
do when the snow visits this winter. Now all I have to do is find the old
tape player out in the storage shed. :)

<<<I look forward to 2006 as being a monumental year for Hapkido, with so
many events and gatherings of masters across the globe. I hope to see you at
the Hapkido Summit in OCT 2006.>>>

Don't know anything about a hapkido summit, but there is a fine
non-political hapkido get together twice a year we go to religiously in
Jackson with folks from around the planet and it has been going on for many
years. I just hope your summit does not turn out to be something like that
disaster in Florida a few years ago, or becomes a 'mutual admiration
gathering". Been through enough 'Korean shuffle' and 'political posturing'
events to know to stay far away from those. But if you hold it in North or
South Dakota, you can count me in. :)

<<<...TKD guy is not getting the spill over concepts of Hapkido because
joint locking and throwing movements are NOT in his basic knowledge
base...same with a hard style karate guy...no matter how many times someone
tells you that it is all hidden in the secret moves of the kata... and even
though I watch these videos and enjoy them I am NEVER thinking about getting
a black belt in that style from the videos....poser bait again IMO if you
are doing this.......>>>

Michael. Wish more people had that attitude. After all, learning basic
motion in another art is a lot harder once you have a strong foundation in
something else completely different. Of course, the modern attitude appears
to be that if you have a black belt in one, another black belt in an other
art should be easy. Although this could not be further from the truth. But
if I do see something I like in another art, I simply translate it to
hapkido motion. After all, for me, everything is hapkido.

There was a poster in the Chemistry department years ago for the Ph.D.
candidates that stated something to the effect of: Many think a scientist is
an expert in all aspects of science, but the truth is the expertise is only
in area of one field, but don't tell the scientists. :)

Jere R. Hilland
www.rrhapkido.com

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Message: 3
From: Ray <rterry@idiom.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang)
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:25:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [The_Dojang] Vets day
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

On this Veterans Day, thanks to ya'll.

And a late happy birthday wish to the US Marines.  230 years old yesterday.

Ray Terry
rterry@idiom.com

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:51:56 -0800 (PST)
From: james thomas <ldogslim@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] what should I do
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I am in a remote area and I want to begin training in hapkido.  I have a partner but I would like to know if there are any books and instructional videos that would best for someone trying to do what I'm doing.  I have 2 previous years experience in taekwondo and multiple sessions of self defense that I received in the military so I'm not a complete beginner.  Can anyone tell me what my best course of action is?


		
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Message: 5
From: ABurrese@aol.com
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:36:57 EST
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Veteran's Day
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

As a Veteran, thank you for all those that remember.
 
To all other Veterans, who served, are serving and to those who had family  
members serve, since you sacrificed too.
 
THANK YOU!
 
Happy Veteran's Day and Remembrance Day.
 
Alain
 
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Message: 6
From: "Trey Singletary" <tsingletary62@hotmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Vets day
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:32:54 +0000
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Semper Fi, Devil Dogs!!!!!!!!


T


>From: Ray <rterry@idiom.com>
>Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
>To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang)
>Subject: [The_Dojang] Vets day
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:25:20 -0800 (PST)
>
>On this Veterans Day, thanks to ya'll.
>
>And a late happy birthday wish to the US Marines.  230 years old yesterday.
>
>Ray Terry
>rterry@idiom.com
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Message: 7
From: "jakskru" <jakskru@sbcglobal.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] what should I do
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:46:27 -0500
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

step 1---move out of the remote area...
----- Original Message -----
From: "james thomas" <ldogslim@yahoo.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: [The_Dojang] what should I do


> I am in a remote area and I want to begin training in hapkido..... Can
anyone tell me what my best course of action is?

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Message: 8
From: "masterm1" <masterm1@cox.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] what should I do
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:03:32 -0500
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Find out where you will be stationed after you complete your remote
assignment. Look up the major Associations. Smaller ones are okay to but if
you get assigned to Korea or anywhere if the techniques are recognizable you
will learn faster, these groups have the most branches worldwide and are the
most well known to teach authentic Hapkido. My association is
www.koreahapkidofederation.net, www.hapkidousa.com,
www.worldhapkidowfederation,  www.worldhapkidoassociation,
www.hmjhapkido.or.kr.or www.hapkido.com .  www.Sinmoohapkido.com in that
area internet wise. Check www.Hapkido-info.net or
www.Nebraskahapkidoassociation.com they have the largest listing of schools
I've seen. Contact the schools you wish to join and ask if they have any
materials they could send you or you could purchase also buy as many tapes
and books  as you can find on the web.  Then pick your group and stick with
it and make arrangements to train there or pay for a rep to come to you. You
should get good mats thick ones at least 2 1/2'' so you save your back when
you attempt falling and rolling techniques. If somebody tells you they will
send you a certificate in the mail they are phony! Harvard would not send
you one and that is what you want "The Harvard of Hapkido".
Kenny
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james thomas" <ldogslim@yahoo.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: [The_Dojang] what should I do


> I am in a remote area and I want to begin training in hapkido.  I have a
partner but I would like to know if there are any books and instructional
videos that would best for someone trying to do what I'm doing.  I have 2
previous years experience in taekwondo and multiple sessions of self defense
that I received in the military so I'm not a complete beginner.  Can anyone
tell me what my best course of action is?
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:57:17 +0800
From: Edmund T <bariumoxide@gmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Working in the USA
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I have sent this to this mailing list before but nobody actually replied. So
here it goes again.

Hi all,
>
> I am Edmund and I am from Singapore.
>
> I am curious as to how much a taekwondo instructor in the USA can earn. I
> have long thought of migrating to the USA and in the event I fail to secure
> a job, I decided that I would not mind being a taekwondo instructor.
>
> I would appreciate if any of you guys can share with me your thoughts on
> the issues below.
>
> 1. I am Chinese. I am aware that glass ceilings for foreigners exist
> unofficially in most professions. Am I right to assume that my being Asian
> would put me in slightly good stead? Just wondering about that.
>
> 2. Are there any official instructors' courses I ought to take to upgrade
> or improve myself?
>
> 3. A question posed to some of the more senior practitioners of taekwondo
> – how do you go about establishing your own dojang (hopefully not a McDojang
> though)? I take it that it is out of the love of taekwondo and not money?
>
> 4. At the expense of being money-minded, what is the approximate
> remuneration like for a taekwondo instructor, be he from a McDojang or an
> organisation truly interested in the art? What is the possibility of
> teaching full time and being able to, at the very least, provide for onself?
>
>
> That's about all guys. Thanks for responding.
>
>  Regards,
>
> Edmund.

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Message: 10
From: "masterm1" <masterm1@cox.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Working in the USA
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:56:11 -0500
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

we have enough taekwondo instructors here.
good luck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edmund T" <bariumoxide@gmail.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: [The_Dojang] Working in the USA


> I have sent this to this mailing list before but nobody actually replied.
So
> here it goes again.
>
> Hi all,
> >
> > I am Edmund and I am from Singapore.
> >
> > I am curious as to how much a taekwondo instructor in the USA can earn.
I
> > have long thought of migrating to the USA and in the event I fail to
secure
> > a job, I decided that I would not mind being a taekwondo instructor.
> >
> > I would appreciate if any of you guys can share with me your thoughts on
> > the issues below.
> >
> > 1. I am Chinese. I am aware that glass ceilings for foreigners exist
> > unofficially in most professions. Am I right to assume that my being
Asian
> > would put me in slightly good stead? Just wondering about that.
> >
> > 2. Are there any official instructors' courses I ought to take to
upgrade
> > or improve myself?
> >
> > 3. A question posed to some of the more senior practitioners of
taekwondo
> > - how do you go about establishing your own dojang (hopefully not a
McDojang
> > though)? I take it that it is out of the love of taekwondo and not
money?
> >
> > 4. At the expense of being money-minded, what is the approximate
> > remuneration like for a taekwondo instructor, be he from a McDojang or
an
> > organisation truly interested in the art? What is the possibility of
> > teaching full time and being able to, at the very least, provide for
onself?
> >
> >
> > That's about all guys. Thanks for responding.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> > Edmund.
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