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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Boy found dead with toy weapon (Dave Zapencki) 2. Hapkiyusool? (Bruce Sims) 3. Plyometrics?? (Bruce Sims) 4. Who was that? (Rudy Timmerman) 5. 12TH ANNUAL S.M.A.R.T. CAMP (Martial Arts Foundation) 6. Support (J R Hilland) 7. NKMAA testing/banquet (Thomas Gordon) 8. RE: Jye's video's (C. Bonner) 9. Master Dewitt (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 10. Korea native carries on Marine, martial arts tradition (Ray) 11. Re: Plyometrics?? (Ray) 12. RE: Plyometrics?? (Erik Brann) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Dave Zapencki" To: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:03:30 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Boy found dead with toy weapon Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Not Sure how they ruled out foul play... something is very strange... Dave _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Boy found dead with toy weapon Edmonton Sun ^ | Nov 15, 2005 | BROOKES MERRITT An Edmonton family is grieving the loss of their middle child today, after the 10-year-old boy was found dead yesterday morning in the family's north-end home. EMS Supt. Wes Bogdane said emergency crews found the boy with a pair of toy nunchuks wrapped around his neck. Nunchuks are a martial arts weapon, made up of two sticks joined by a short length of rope or chain. Paramedics responded to 12720 48 St. shortly after 7:30 a.m. yesterday, and said Christopher White was dead when they got there. The medical examiner's office is investigating the circumstances of the death, and a cause has yet to be determined, said spokesman Ron Jacobs. Police have ruled out foul play, and say it appears Chris may have died as the result of an accident. The White family declined comment yesterday, but a neighbour said Chris was active and full of energy. "He was involved in his school and he loved martial arts," said Doug Lunden, who lives down the street from the Whites. "He just won a silver medal in a martial arts competition." Lunden expressed grief for the family, and hoped Chris's two surviving sisters, one older and one younger, could help his father cope with the loss of his son. "They've got those two girls and they've had support all day," Lunden said. Another neighbour, who asked not to be named, was shocked to hear the news of Chris's death. "He was only 10. I just can't imagine it. How horrible," she said. "My prayers are with them." Crisis counsellors were offering support to White's Grade 5 classmates yesterday at Father Leo Green School, and a letter reporting the boy's death was sent home to parents. The report of toy nunchuks wrapped around the boy's throat raised eyebrows in the local martial arts community. Nunchuks - the real kind - are a prohibited weapon in Canada, said Edmonton Police Insp. Dennis Pysyk. Craig Stanley, a seventh-degree tae kwon-do master and one of Canada's top martial arts performers, said weapons training is uncommon in martial arts - especially for young children. "It's normally reserved for kung fu training," said Stanley, who runs the Phoenix Tae Kwon-Do club in St. Albert. "Taekwondo means 'the way of the hand and foot,' and karate uses open-hand techniques." But Stanley said some martial arts clubs do train with weapons - especially when it draws in customers. "It's usually instructors who need to bring in more students, because weapons are attractive." Hong Park Tae Kwon-Do College instructor Patrick Gallagher, 20, says his club trains with foam-wrapped nunchuks. "Usually the chain isn't long enough to wrap around somebody's neck," he said. "I've never heard of anybody strangling themselves with a nunchuk before." Dr. Louis Francescutti, an injury prevention advocate, said he's never heard of such a tragedy, but that "injuries are the leading cause of death in kids." =================================================================== Good Judgement comes from experience, which comes from Poor Judgement. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:04:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkiyusool? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ".....http://www.hapkiyoosool.com/video/hapkido_demo.wmv...." Thanks for the clip but I did not see any Hapkiyusool in the techniques. What I saw are techniques and execution straight out of any standard Aikido class. Now I understand that some folks have come to represent "Aikido" as "Hapkiyusool" and I suppose they are free to do whatever they please. Based on what I saw in the clip that you provided perhaps these folks doing the demonstration belong to such a group. However, the material in the demo does not look like any hapkiyusool with which I am familiar. In fact, with the exception of some branches of IHF (Korea) I don't think the material looks a whole lot like any Hapkido that I am familiar with. FWIW. BTW: Someone made a comment about how Garrison's "Hapkido" has a strong resemblance to Japanese Aikido. Why would this be such a huge surprise when Garrison started his MA career as an Aikido person and practiced Aikido for quite some time. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Plyometrics?? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ".....I am trying to find some drills to be used to increase foot speed and reaction times when sparring. I was thinking of some plyometric exercises, but I can't find any on the web. Could someone give me a hand?...." Yes: Do your research first. Plyometrics are not as simple as just jumping over a heavy bag laid on the floor. There is quite a bit of controversy over whether the results justify the potential for short-term injury and even long-term damage to body structures. Slow down and learn to do what you do correctly. The speed will come in its own time and without any additional effort by you. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:56:29 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Who was that? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Gordon writes: > I thought I saw GM Timmerman at the end of that first clip. Was > that you > sir? Hello Gordon: I am sorry to say that many Of Jye's clips cannot be opened with my Mac, so I did not get to see these last clips. I am therefore not sure what or who you saw. Suffice it to say that I have done very few demos since my accident back in 1983, so it is unlikely that you saw me. Rudy --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Martial Arts Foundation" To: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:06:17 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] 12TH ANNUAL S.M.A.R.T. CAMP Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net *MAF endorsed* 12TH ANNUAL S.M.A.R.T. CAMP Superior Martial Arts Retreat & Training Presented by Mizu-Ryu Ju-Jitsu DATE: February 2TH through February 5TH 2006 LOCATION: South Florida United Methodist Camp in Alva, Florida CAMP HOST: Soke (9th Dan) Marty Ferrick–Founder of Mizu-Ryu CAMP FEES: $190 per attendee. 46 slots available (first come-first served) (includes ALL instruction, lodging & meals in furnished air conditioned lodge) $225- payments after January 27TH With great pride we give you this years instructors… Soke Marty Ferrick (9th Degree) Mizu-Ryu Ju-Jitsu Suro Jason Inay (Soke) Inayan System of Eskrima Hanshi Bill Wendell (9th Degree & Soke) Mushin GoJu-Ryu Soke Joe Williams (10th Degree) Atemi-Ryu Karate Do Master Bob Piper (6th Degree) STS TaeKwonDo If there are any questions, contact Sensei Patrick Rook at pdrmizu@aol.com or 954/562-5823. [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of SMART POSTER WPIC.doc] --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:22:36 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Support Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Tim: We are all students, regardless of rank. As one of the hapkido teachers at the Jackson event, I have seen, for example, a white belt with a 7th dan as a partner in my class on several occasions. Why? Because they are both there to learn. When I am not teaching, I am a student in someone else’s class. There is always time to learn something new at EVERY OPPORTUNITY regardless of your rank and time in the art. You will not find politics or posturing at this event. As Michael said: “IMHO it is all about the learning, try to get them to buy into that, who cares about belt ranks unless you have some sort of ego thing going on, and if that is the case you have missed the forest because of one tree in your way...” Jere R. Hilland www.rrhapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] NKMAA testing/banquet Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This weekend I attended the Annual Testing/Banquet at Grandmaster Timmerman's in Sault Ste Marie, Canada. Friday night was an extremely difficult final examination (testing or higher ranks began on the previous Wednesday) with people testing for ranking in various Korean arts. I was very honored to be on the testing board with Grandmaster Rudy Timmerman and Grandmaster Eugene Humesky. All in all, roughly 24 people tested for ranks in various arts. I'm sure Grandmaster Timmerman will be posting the results of those passing and what art they were testing for. As a taekwondo stylist, I'd be lacking if I didn't specifically congratulate Master Dusty Miner who successfully tested for fifth degree in taekwondo and first degree in Kong Shin Bup. Mr. Andrew Novoselak successfully testing for second degree in taekwondo. Mr. Paul Novak successfully testing for first in taekwondo and Kong Shin Bup. Master Miner and Mr. Novak literally traveled the country to be prepared for testing. Gentlemen, it was my privilege to be at your testing. In addition to those mentioned above, I met/see some great folks and fellow brothers/sisters of NKMAA. Master Trudeau, Master Custer, Master Janisse, Mr. Stahl, Mr./Mrs. Demanaeus, Mr. Bondy, Mr. Cammalleri, and the list goes on and on. Sorry if I missed you, certainly not intentional..hard to remember the names of everyone considering I met literally hundreds of people. Heck, the Saturday Award Banquet had well over 200 people alone! Speaking of that, the Saturday night social was a blast. Award banquet, rank presentations, demonstrations, eating, and then the party began! The demonstration and in fact the entire night was the most organized event I've been too. Everything was like clock work. Very impressive when hosting a sold out crowd! Bows to Grandmaster Timmerman. Look forward to the 2006 Korea Trip in April! Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "C. Bonner" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:48:43 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Jye's video's Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting demo's by, In Sun Seo, and John Pellegrini. It was also interesting to note the Hapkido, kuk sul Hapkido, and Kuk sul won guy's together. Clint --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: "the_dojang" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:48:24 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Dewitt Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Dewitt Thnak you for your support. It is good to know their are marial artist that still enforce the 5 Moo Do Elements History, Tradition, Philosoly, Discipline/Respect, and Techniques. Many instructors say the enforce discipline, and that they train hardcore or old school. The problem is not everyone's difinition of old school is the same. My Best to You and Your School JC CoxGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:45:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Korea native carries on Marine, martial arts tradition Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Korea native carries on Marine, martial arts tradition Submitted by: II Marine Expeditionary Force Story by: Lance Cpl. Josh Cox CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq(Nov. 16, 2005) -- America has been a haven for people to build a path for fulfilling their dreams. The Marine Corps has given one Marine a stone to begin. Lance Cpl. Joon-Hyun Ryu, 20, was born in Korea, but moved to the United States with his mother to grasp the opportunities available in America. "My parents wanted me to have a better opportunity for education," said Ryu, a refrigeration mechanic assigned to 8th Communication Battalion, II Marine Expeditionary Force (FWD). "I started learning the alphabet on the plane to America." Ryu, a reserve Marine, said he was shocked by the cultural differences, but was able to adjust to life in the United States. With the help of dedicated teachers, mentors and hard work, Ryu was able to learn English. "Talking to people helped me and reading a lot of books," he said. Ryu said his interest in the military originated from his father's service in the Republic of Korea Marine Corps. "My father was a ROK Marine," he said. "(He) used to be a logistics officer in the Korean military." Ryu decided to enlist in the Marine Corps after graduating high school in 2004 after some research on the United States military. Joining the Corps was his way of paying tribute to his father, giving back to the United States and a way to gain life experience, he said. Ryu, who is a third degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do, uses martial arts as way to bridge his heritage with his military upbringing. "I relate everything I do to Tae Kwon Do," he said. Ryu, who has been referred to as "the epitome of motivation" among his peers, has many goals for the future. He plans to take his Marine Corps and civilian careers to new levels and become an officer in the judge advocate; and, even further, a political leader. In the end, he hopes to use his experience in the Corps to land a position in the U.S. Embassy in Korea. "All this experience will pay in the end, and I will accomplish my ambitions," he said. --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Plyometrics?? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:29:14 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Yes: Do your research first. > > Plyometrics are not as simple as just jumping over a heavy bag laid on the floor. There is quite a bit of controversy over whether the results justify the potential for short-term injury and even long-term damage to body structures. > > Slow down and learn to do what you do correctly. The speed will come in its own time and without any additional effort by you. > Agreed. Plyometric exercises require only a very few PROPERLY executed reps to be effective. Many times I've seen people do these to exhaustion. That is not the way they should be approached! As Bruce says, a lot of damage can and probably will be done thru improper execution. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Erik Brann" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Plyometrics?? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:47:55 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks This is why I asked. -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rterry@idiom.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:29 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Plyometrics?? > Yes: Do your research first. > > Plyometrics are not as simple as just jumping over a heavy bag laid on the floor. There is quite a bit of controversy over whether the results justify the potential for short-term injury and even long-term damage to body structures. > > Slow down and learn to do what you do correctly. The speed will come in its own time and without any additional effort by you. > Agreed. Plyometric exercises require only a very few PROPERLY executed reps to be effective. Many times I've seen people do these to exhaustion. That is not the way they should be approached! As Bruce says, a lot of damage can and probably will be done thru improper execution. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest