Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:01:44 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #458 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. wall climbing (Rudy Timmerman) 2. Re: Hapkiyusool? (George Popofski) 3. Re: Re: Hapkiyusool? (chuck@rimshapkido.org) 4. RE: wall climbing (michael tomlinson) 5. ITF Hosts Informal Meetings in Argentina (Ray Terry) 6. (NK) ITF President Welcomed (Ray Terry) 7. WTF Begins (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:28:23 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] wall climbing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Michael writes: > these techniques are basically done to run up a wall and then > spring off of > them to do a kick....anywho that is my experience with them.... Hello Michael. You are referring to Wahl Jang Chagi, which we do as part of our kicking test. The 12 foot wall master Gordon referred to is something we do as part of our challenge course training which includes many other challenges, including a Polar Bear Swim in Lake Huron when ice may be on the lake (as it often is). I ask my students to do this sort of thing for a number of reasons, most of which were addressed by Master Gordon. Since Ninjas have all but vanished here in the Great White North, we also do this to keep the bears from taking our Salmon when fishing. These big hairy suckers can throw wicked spinning side kicks while stealing your fish, but the ARE vulnerable to groin techniques as some of you might have seen in that funny video clip that went around a while back. Talking about video clips. I still have not seen the actual clip, but Master Petrotta tells me that it was indeed me in the clip Jye had. Done a few demos in Jackson and in Korea, but that is about it since I got the back injury in '83. I guess I do enjoy getting on the mat too much to hang it up altogether; however, these days I do it for my own enjoyment rather than to impress anyone lol. Rudy --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "George Popofski" To: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:43:46 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkiyusool? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I enjoyed the clips also, and many of the techniques were ones that I learned in my IHF (Hankido) affiliated school. One thing that caught my attention was that, in many of the techniques, the defender would take several steps backwards away from the attacking punch before launching into his technique. Most everything I have learned involved taking an angle step inside or outside the punch, or maybe one step back to let the strike pass by, but never taking several steps backward, backpedaling away from the attacker. I haven't been exposed to too many different hapkido styles but I am curious to find out if others practice this way (backpedaling away before countering). Thanks --__--__-- Message: 3 From: chuck@rimshapkido.org To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:08:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Hapkiyusool? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net "Most everything I have learned involved taking an angle step inside or outsidethe punch, or maybe one step back to let the strike pass by, but never takingseveral steps backward, backpedaling away from the attacker." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I can only speak as to my methodology, which is to change interval with an oncoming attack at an angle. If I am comfortable with the interval or am comitted to the existing interval and need to allow the punch to pass, I will piviot my, much like you see a practicing Aikidoka do. Chuck Callahan --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] wall climbing Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:40:41 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks for the info Rudy...I would venture to say that when you attack a 12 foot wall,, or jump into lake Huron up at the Sault...which is God's beautiful country IMHO,,, that your personal will power gets a boost...great training Sir... that video clip with the bear and the fisherman is funny as can be....I like when the guy says "hey look it's an eagle",,,and the bear falls for it...LOL.. but that bear did have some good reverse punches!! Michael Tomlinson >From: Rudy Timmerman >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] wall climbing >Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:28:23 -0500 > >Michael writes: >>these techniques are basically done to run up a wall and then spring off >>of >>them to do a kick....anywho that is my experience with them.... > >Hello Michael. You are referring to Wahl Jang Chagi, which we do as part >of our kicking test. The 12 foot wall master Gordon referred to is >something we do as part of our challenge course training which includes >many other challenges, including a Polar Bear Swim in Lake Huron when ice >may be on the lake (as it often is). I ask my students to do this sort >of thing for a number of reasons, most of which were addressed by Master >Gordon. > >Since Ninjas have all but vanished here in the Great White North, we also >do this to keep the bears from taking our Salmon when fishing. These big >hairy suckers can throw wicked spinning side kicks while stealing your >fish, but the ARE vulnerable to groin techniques as some of you might have >seen in that funny video clip that went around a while back. > >Talking about video clips. I still have not seen the actual clip, but >Master Petrotta tells me that it was indeed me in the clip Jye had. Done >a few demos in Jackson and in Korea, but that is about it since I got the >back injury in '83. I guess I do enjoy getting on the mat too much to >hang it up altogether; however, these days I do it for my own enjoyment >rather than to impress anyone lol. >Rudy >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:06:34 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF Hosts Informal Meetings in Argentina Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 16/11/05: ITF Hosts Informal Meetings in Argentina by www.itf-admin.com Following the magnificent finale of the ITF Pan-American Championships last October, several informal meetings were held with International Delegates, chaired by ITF President Grand Master Choi Jung Hwa. In attendance together with the President were Master Nestor Galarraga (Argentina), Mario Troiano (Argentina) and ITF Vice President, Mr. Michael Tibollo (Canada) together with delegates from USA, Ireland, UK, Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico and of course Argentina. The proceedings were translated between English and Spanish by Mrs. Geoghegan, a professional translator who once assisted the late Pope John Paul II by translating a televised conversation between him and the then President of Brazil. President Choi was keen to hear what lessons had been learned by the delegation over the course of the championships that could be propagated through the ITF World. There was much discussion about the new-style, assessed umpires course, and how the event had benefited by having the umpires all participate in the course. On behalf of ITF Administration, Mr. Panteli, at the invitation of President Choi explained the new facilities for self-administration that had been launched with the creation of the new ITF website. The President thanked Mr. Panteli for his work on behalf of the ITF and asked the delegates to recognise his efforts. Master Galarraga raised the issue of the administrative management of the multi-border areas of Uruguay, Argentina, Peru and Brazil. He explained that this area was practically autonomous for administration purposes as its location was extremely remote the centres of government for the states involved. He ask if the ITF would consider allowing a single INO to be formed to manage the affairs of this area in respect of their affiliation with the ITF. The President said that there was no reason why such an administrative collaboration could not be formed, however, this would be strictly on the understanding that for the purposes of international representation, members of the collaborated group would be required to return to their own national bodies for selection and possible coaching. The President explained that a similar situation had previously arisen with a community of members of Korean descent who now resided in a specific area of Japan. Mr. Panteli, asked the delegation to consider that under International Convention, it was possible for a person to decide to represent a country other that that of their own residence or nationality, if that person had, by descent, the right of nationality in another country. In the case of the South American region, it maybe that some may qualify to represent countries other than that within which they currently held nationality of, which may be more convenient or reasonable for them to travel to and compete with. Master Galarraga asked the President to consider the formation of a Children's World Championships. The event to be held within the next 2 years, would only feature competitors between the ages of 10 and 12. A version of the ITF tournament rules would be adapted to ensure the safety of the participants. It was felt that this particular age group would benefit from such an event, which up until now had not been available to them in International form. All present agreed with Master Galarraga'sl, and the President invited him to present the ITF with a formal proposal for consideration. The President was keen to meet individually with delegates to discuss current issues within their own countries. In particular, he was pleased to meet with Mr. Denis Magua and the South African delegation, as well as those from Peru and Brazil. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:40 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] (NK) ITF President Welcomed Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ITF President Welcomed by IOC President There was a warm reception at the IOC HQ for ITF President Prof. Chang Ung by IOC President Dr. Jacques Rogge on 4th November 2005. The IOC President welcomed the ITF President and held the talks in the atmosphere of friendship and cordiality. The ITF President informed the IOC President of the recent situation around Taekwon-Do including the outcomes of talks held between ITF and WTF. The IOC President fully understood it and expressed his deep concern to the proceedings of on-going talks and eventually, supported to continue the talks with WTF for the best solution of the Taekwon-Do issue in keeping with the benefits and interests of all Taekwon-Do practitioners across the world as well as in keeping with the Olympic Charter and Ideal. ITF HQ --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:43:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF Begins Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://new-look.wtf.org/ New Emblem New Rules Reform Report WTF Strategic Plan --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest