Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:02:02 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #463 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Web Sight for GM West (Adam D. Huntley) 2. Web Sight for GM West (Ray Terry) 3. RE: The Role of Pain in Hapkido (J R Hilland) 4. Re: RE: The Role of Pain in Hapkido (michael tomlinson) 5. Mr. Miyagi has died. He was 73 (Hindley) 6. Pain in Hapkido (Bruce Sims) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Adam D. Huntley" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:30:18 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Web Sight for GM West Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Anyone, Does anyone here have GM West's web sight? -Adam --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:13:51 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Web Sight for GM West Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Does anyone here have GM West's web sight? While sightings of Gm West, like UFO sightings, are highly suspect... you may have luck over at http://hapkido.com. :) --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:56:22 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: The Role of Pain in Hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Decades ago, coming up through the ranks in hapkido, we spent years performing technique 9" in front of our danjun with small decreasing radius circles and moving our center around the technique or moving their center directly in from of the danjun. It is not as pretty as a big aikido type circle with a floating hardfall, but it is not designed to be. If you resist things break, if you relax, then you live to practice another day. It is that simple. :) Happy Thanksgiving! Jere R. Hilland, Fargo, ND www.hapkidoselfdefense.com <<>> <<>> --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: The Role of Pain in Hapkido Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:00:45 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Exactly Ray,,, you know it when you feel it from him brother... Michael Tomlinson >From: Ray >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: The Role of Pain in Hapkido >Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:45:55 -0800 (PST) > > > circles and arcs are there you just crumple....BUT...if you practice >like > > this all the time..no one would be healthy enough to come back....so I > > explain it and do it,, but not 100 percent of the time because as Doju >Nim > > Ji said to me...very painful!! Shoot...too painfu, but it is awesome! > >As he would frequently say with a big smile... > >"Hurt?!? Hurt!?!?!? This... Hapkido." > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2000 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Hindley" To: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:41:24 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Mr. Miyagi has died. He was 73 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Even though Ralph Macio(sp) was not the best portrayal or mabe he was, Mr. Miyagi's wisdom and the movies of the Karate Kid werte instramental in our MA path. Much Respect to Pat Morita Greg Hindley Douglasvill, GA LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Actor Pat Morita, whose portrayal of the wise and dry-witted Mr. Miyagi in "The Karate Kid" earned him an Oscar nomination, has died. He was 73. Morita died Thursday at his home in Las Vegas of natural causes, said his wife of 12 years, Evelyn. She said in a statement that her husband, who first rose to fame with a role on "Happy Days," had "dedicated his entire life to acting and comedy." In 1984, he appeared in the role that would define his career and spawn countless affectionate imitations. As Kesuke Miyagi, the mentor to Ralph Macchio's "Daniel-san," he taught karate while trying to catch flies with chopsticks and offering such advice as "wax on, wax off" to guide Daniel through chores to improve his skills. Morita said in a 1986 interview with The Associated Press he was billed as Noriyuki "Pat" Morita in the film because producer Jerry Weintraub wanted him to sound more ethnic. He said he used the billing because it was "the only name my parents gave me." He lost the 1984 best supporting actor award to Haing S. Ngor, who appeared in "The Killing Fields." (Watch a profile of Morita -- 2:10) For years, Morita played small and sometimes demeaning roles in such films as "Thoroughly Modern Millie" and TV series such as "The Odd Couple" and "Green Acres." His first breakthrough came with "Happy Days," and he followed with his own brief series, "Mr. T and Tina." "The Karate Kid," led to three sequels, the last of which, 1994's "The Next Karate Kid," paired him with a young Hilary Swank. Morita was prolific outside of the "Karate Kid" series as well, appearing in "Honeymoon in Vegas," "Spy Hard," "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues" and "The Center of the World." He also provided the voice for a character in the Disney movie "Mulan" in 1998. Born in northern California on June 28, 1932, the son of migrant fruit pickers, Morita spent most of his early years in the hospital with spinal tuberculosis. He later recovered only to be sent to a Japanese-American internment camp in Arizona during World War II. "One day I was an invalid," he recalled in a 1989 AP interview. "The next day I was public enemy No. 1 being escorted to an internment camp by an FBI agent wearing a piece." After the war, Morita's family tried to repair their finances by operating a Sacramento restaurant. It was there that Morita first tried his comedy on patrons. Because prospects for a Japanese-American standup comic seemed poor, Morita found steady work in computers at Aerojet General. But at age 30 he entered show business full time. "Only in America could you get away with the kind of comedy I did," he commented. "If I tried it in Japan before the war, it would have been considered blasphemy, and I would have ended in leg irons. " Morita was to be buried at Palm Green Valley Mortuary and Cemetery. He is survived by his wife and three daughters from a previous marriage. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:01:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Pain in Hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ".......He walks through the technique as he keeps my wrist in tight and close to his body, my wrist didn't even go above my belt level as he did the technique...as I crumple to the ground my back made a big woof noise when it hit the mat and he eased up on my wrist right before it broke..when I looked up he was right over me very low in his stance..he smiled at me and said..."do you understand, no fall,, very painful".. dude it was like a shot going through my head...I totally understood what he meant...then I start thinking DAMN...the falling is really not in Hapkido at all...if you know the next level of Hapkido like he does...then the techniques don't allow for a fall at all...if the body position and small circles and arcs are there you just crumple....BUT...if you practice like this all the time..no one would be healthy enough to come back....so I explain it and do it,, but not 100 percent of the time because as Doju Nim Ji said to me...very painful!! Shoot...too painfu, but it is awesome!........" Dear Chris and Michael et al: This is why I felt compelled to write as I did. After have a couple of intensives with Dojunim Kim, I can say that Michael's experience is right on the money. The technique is tight and focused and does not allow for jumping out of the technique--- whether or NOT you have good Nauk Bup. They tell me that gradually, after about two months a person gets acclimatized to the discomfort. Couldn't prove it by me! The down-side is that it gets painful enough that unless you are nuts most people will not come back after a while which probably goes a long ways toward explaining why people quit more often than stayed at Choi's schools. The trick as I see it is is to find a balance between too much regular pain and not enough. I think that judicious use of the falls allows for this but I also think that people can become dependent on those falls such that the illusion is created that a person is doing awesome technique when all they are really doing is paired gymnastics. Thoughts? Best Wishes, Bruce --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest