Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:03:52 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #468 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. What is Gambian Chung do Kwan? (Ray Terry) 2. Pain in training (luc2503@bellsouth.net) 3. Goofy requests (J.R. West) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:35:38 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] What is Gambian Chung do Kwan? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The other shoe drops in Gambia... Ray Terry www.martialartsresource.com taekwondo.moo.duk.kwan@gmail.com ---------------------------------------------------- What is Chung do Kwan? Written by Nanama Keita Tuesday, 29 November 2005 Chung do kwan means the school of the blue wave. For easy identification and for the purpose of affiliation one refers to it as Chung do kwan tae kwon do (CDK-TKD), a traditional form of tae kwon do. Chung do kwan combines the linear movements of Japanese karate with the flowing circular movements of Chinese kung-fu and chung-fa. It is the varied and especially powerful kicks and hand techniques that sets CDK apart from other martial arts. A lot of the techniques in CDK involves the use of jump kicks and flying kicks. These were devised for use against adversaries on horsebacks. Thus, it is easy to understand why the minimum height for a jump kick is 6 ft; imagine how high someone on a horse is? If you would like to develop your kicking prowess, start to practice CDK. The philosophy of Chung do kwan is based on self-defence. There is no competition involved in its practice. It is a traditional art and as such the practice of hyungs (Japanese: katas) is an aspect of it. Self defence is a matter of life or death; thus, the techniques are deadly. Many of the techniques are similar to what one sees elsewhere, but the difference lies in emphasis. A black belt in CDK must be able to take on four opponents simultaneously. Thus, sparring involves more than one person at the same time. Breaking is also an important aspect of Chung do kwan. This is a requirement for students of intermediate level, green belt, and above. How does one break? This would be covered in a later article. However, it is important to note that breaking is a test of many things, among which is the ability to concentrate. CDK also includes some judo, aikido and a blend of some other martial arts. There is a little in the guise of weaponry, specifically speaking the use of the stick. I find it interesting to note that in all my years of practicing CDK none of the students who enroll in competition ever emerges victorious. They are always disqualified for having used an illegal technique. Competition and self defence are two different ball games. A good competition fighter who wins trophies would not be able to survive a self defence situation. A self defence situation usually lasts for seconds, say, 5 seconds; not what is seen on movies. A good self defence expert cannot win in a competition arena. Self defence has no rules; competition does. Chung do kwan teaches how one can survive on the streets, especially when one is backed against a wall; a situation in which there is no escape. It teaches how to use minimum force to achieve maximum impact. This is similar to Bruce Lee's famous one inch punch, in which he placed his knuckles one inch from a man's belly, and actually punched him. The man flew off, as if hit by a bullet, and landed in a swimming pool some few yards behind him. This was actually a bet that took place at a party. In keeping with the idea of tae kwon do there are the five tenets; more appropriately called the five tenets of tae kwon do. These are qualities which are supposed to manifest in the practitioner with consistent training, namely: courtesy, integrity, self-control, perseverance and indomitable spirit. Some advocate that one applies them with uncommon common sense. How courteous should you be? How honest must you be? And under what conditions? Oladele Oyelakin is a chemistry Lecturer @ University of The Gambia. (Dele has a Hana degree black belt in Chung do kwan and an Ichi dan black belt in shotokan karate, orange belt status in kodokan judo. . He also practices taichi and Western boxing; he is a member of the Gambia Karate Association) --__--__-- Message: 2 From: To: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:39:25 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Pain in training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" "Food for thought-- ....You have to be honest with yourself. If I was to fight for my life today could I survive using the training I practice now." The answer to this question depends on who you are defending yourself against. For an average person against another average person then the chance is about 50%. That is why we practice so we can be better than the average person. The longer we practice, the better we are and the more people we can defend against. Will we ever be able to protect ourself against everybody? I don't think so. But our chance of meeting somebody better than us is getting smaller as our time on the mat increases. I always tell my students that everyday they just need to be better than themself yesterday. Think about it, in an encounter, even a basketball player, a soccer player, or any other athlete has a better chance of survival than an average person just because he/she is in better shape to fight back or to run away. A Martial Artist should at least be able to do the same thing. And if we practice hard, we can do a lot more. For myself, I think that I have a better than average chance of surviving if I have to fight for my life and I am trying to improve that odd everyday. Luc Nguyen --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:00:47 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Goofy requests Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Having a website as common as hapkido.com, I often get hit with bizarre requests, but I received one last night that I just HAVE to share. I was asked by a man in South Africa if I could help him start a commercial Hapkido school since there were none in his country. The instructors were going to be a TKD practitioner and a Ju Jitsu practitioner. This was thought to be OK since everyone knows that all hapkido consists of is TKD kicks, blocks and strikes, mixed in with some Ju Jitsu grappling. He wanted me to give him the names of some Korean orgainzations that they could get certified through, and would I come and teach a couple of seminars to get them started. I have not seen an answer, and after my rather "to the point" reply, I don't imagine I will, The sad part of all this is that there are folks out there that would be happy to go to Africa for free and sign some papers saying that these guys are legitimate. I wonder if one of their organiztions would give me rank in Ju Jitsu based on my Hapkido experience, or if I learned a set of forms perhaps they would issue me TKD rank.....I sure hope NOT!.......JRW --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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